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Anonymous Mon 10 Jun 2024 21:13:59 No.56016757 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>56016804 >>56016842 >>56017197 >>56017832 >>56019066 >>56020348 >>56020358

>70 base points blown on special attak
>learns 5 special moves
why

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jun 2024 21:29:22 No.56016804 Report

Quoted By: >>56017188 >>56017550

>>56016757
They had to put those points somewhere, and it COULD NOT be in the attack because you know why.
Special Tinkaton is somehow used in some low tier iirc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jun 2024 21:36:58 No.56016842 Report

Quoted By: >>56017188 >>56017297

>>56016757
Because not all mons are designed for comp, you autistic subhuman

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jun 2024 22:52:00 No.56017188 Report

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>>56016804
is it really worth giving up gigahammer and knock off for draining kiss and steel beam?

>>56016842
who said anything about comp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jun 2024 22:55:05 No.56017197 Report

Quoted By: >>56017208 >>56017297 >>56017329 >>56017687

>>56016757
>Pokemon that is overly reliant on its hammer and is reliant on trickery otherwise has a stat line fit for a trickster and a move based on its hammer that more than compensates for its middling attack
And this confuses Tinkafags… how?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jun 2024 22:57:12 No.56017208 Report

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>>56017197
so if it couldnt go into physical attack why couldnt it just go into speed or bulk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jun 2024 23:00:30 No.56017224 Report

Quoted By: >>56017233 >>56017667

>"support" pokemon
>twave knock off and rocks are its only support moves
why am i running this over klefki

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jun 2024 23:02:04 No.56017233 Report

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>>56017224
also has encore and i guess fake out

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jun 2024 23:12:50 No.56017297 Report

Quoted By: >>56019099 >>56020432

>>56016842
>>56017197
oh sick, a fairy with a huge hammer! i bet its a crazy physical attacker-
>75/70 attack stats
oh, maybe it has some really good moves..
>only 5 of its 52 possible moves have a base power over 80
..maybe its a good support mon in comp?
>0.1% usage according to pikalytics
>outclassed entirely by booboo keys in singles
at least shes cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jun 2024 23:19:42 No.56017329 Report

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>>56017197
>a move based on its hammer that more than compensates for its middling attack
lolno

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 00:13:25 No.56017550 Report

Quoted By: >>56017922

>>56016804
All of which was disproven with Ursaluna Bloodmoon being made.
252+ Atk CHOICE BAND Mold Breaker Tinkaton Gigaton Hammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Jirachi: 148-175 (36.6 - 43.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Silk Scarf Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Jirachi: 155-183 (38.3 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 01:02:36 No.56017667 Report

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>>56017224
To uh... Get the upper hand on Dark Types who are otherwise immune to Klefki's Prankster shenanigans...???
>Incineroar used Flare Blitz!
Oops, never mind.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 01:09:22 No.56017687 Report

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>>56017197
Masters made Tinkaton busted, with sky-high attack AND a very powerful snowflake move. There is no excuse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 02:00:14 No.56017832 Report

Quoted By: >>56017838

>>56016757
>absolutely unoptimized stat spread, literally steel type Mimikyu
>STILL mogs Metagross in comp, even after all the buffs it got in Indigo Disk
Being Metagross is suffering.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 02:02:46 No.56017838 Report

Quoted By: >>56017842

>>56017832
Also
>literally as viable as Garchomp in OU
Remember when Garchomp had the tightest and most absurdly optimized typing and stat spread in the game? Me too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 02:04:24 No.56017842 Report

Quoted By: >>56017874 >>56017875 >>56017876 >>56022770

>>56017838
>unofficial meta
Garchomp is better in ROM hacks, if you want to talk about fanmade fluff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 02:17:52 No.56017874 Report

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>>56017842
> Garchomp is better in ROM hacks
Not even. Garchomp is kinda mid in RR, while Tinkaton carries a significant portion of that game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 02:19:36 No.56017875 Report

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>>56017842
If anything, Garchomp's usually kept as-is because people still think it's the King of Metagame like it was in Gen 4, unless it's to make Mega Garchomp better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 02:20:06 No.56017876 Report

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>>56017842
In the official doubles metas Tinkaton still eclipses Garchomp in usage, funny enough. They’re both dogshit there but still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 02:37:16 No.56017922 Report

Quoted By: >>56017956 >>56019121

>>56017550
One is an end-game bossmon while the other is so some early route mid-dexer. Hardly comparable.

Tink is a fine mon though. It's stat spread is weird but its a fine mon with a great typing and movepool.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 02:46:25 No.56017956 Report

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>>56017922
>early route mid-dexer.
kinda funny since another early game shitmon does everything tink does way better except for the defensive typing

>fat ass 300 base power stab move mitigating its shitty attack stats
>weirdly versatile move set, fits both a support and aggro playstyle
>solid in singles, really good in doubles
>fast as fuck for no reason
>even ingame its really solid, evolves early as fuck and gains hella momentum with tidy up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 13:22:15 No.56019066 Report

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>>56016757
>+15 attack for obivous reasons
>+15 hp to make use of the good spdef
>+4 speed to round off BST to 540
>belly drum so hidden ability is useable
>every move named "hammer" as an egg move for coverage
Fixed her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 13:36:35 No.56019099 Report

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>>56017297
>a fairy with a huge hammer! i bet its a crazy physical attacker-
yes that's the joke
it's a jokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 13:44:25 No.56019121 Report

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>>56017922
Cool
Just make Gigaton Hammer available later on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 13:47:24 No.56019130 Report

Quoted By: >>56019222

She's like A rank UU. What's the issue? Not enough unless Ubers? Tinkafags are fucking insufferable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 13:55:15 No.56019151 Report

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Tinkaton is such an anomaly it’s astonishing how it can exist.
>506 BST
>Higher BST than Conkeldurr and Honchkrow
>Somehow have only a single stat above 100 and its only 105
>Somehow every other stat is more than 5 points below 100
>HP is only 85, Def is only 77, Atk is only 75, and SpA is somehow 70
>HP is actually the closest to the average which should be 84.33~

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 14:25:02 No.56019222 Report

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>>56019130
>Tinkafags are fucking insufferable
Says the Smogtroon shilling his fanfic format in response to rightful complaints about a Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 14:34:31 No.56019246 Report

Quoted By: >>56019273 >>56019275

not every pokemon needs to be mega Beedrill minmaxed. Sometimes you just need to dump stats on a useless stat so the BST is higher to make autists think the shit you are shilling is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 14:35:17 No.56019248 Report

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you cant see it in game but all tinkatons have big saggy tits and nice jiggly bellies

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 14:43:41 No.56019265 Report

Quoted By: >>56019540 >>56020318

>2030
>romhack releases
>tinkaton attack 75 >130 Spa 70 > 20

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 14:46:47 No.56019273 Report

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>>56019246
> ometimes you just need to dump stats on a useless stat so the BST is higher to make autists think the shit you are shilling is better
Wouldn’t it just make more sense jusy make the shit your shilling minmaxed as fuck as it actually is good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 14:47:19 No.56019275 Report

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>>56019246
>not every pokemon needs to be mega Beedrill minmaxed
Isn't that what G9 mostly is?
Also wow I knew Mega Beedrill is the poster kid for minmaxing but I never actually checked the stats this is ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 16:09:11 No.56019540 Report

Quoted By: >>56023084

>>56019265
You think that the Switch and Pokemon will be breakable to that degree in six years?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 19:56:06 No.56020318 Report

Quoted By: >>56023084

>>56019265
>not putting it into defense or hp
stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 20:01:59 No.56020348 Report

Quoted By: >>56020364 >>56023096

>>56016757
>NOOOOOOOOO every single mons should have 560 bst, 120+ speed and a minmaxed attacking stats!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 20:03:02 No.56020358 Report

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>>56016757
Better question, why is it so ugly?

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 20:04:03 No.56020364 Report

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>>56020348
>you WILL have useless bst put into special attack and you WILL use fairy wind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jun 2024 20:15:51 No.56020432 Report

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>>56017297
>at least shes cute
Nah, its mouth is weird and its hands are a crime against my eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2024 01:22:06 No.56021489 Report

Quoted By: >>56022680

why doesnt she get dazzling gleam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2024 11:46:26 No.56022680 Report

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>>56021489
this one baffles me seeing as how it's the basic fairy move that pretty much every fairy type gets

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2024 12:43:04 No.56022770 Report

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>>56017842
Chomp is fucking mid in romhacks because it gets zero buffs of any kind in them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2024 14:37:14 No.56023084 Report

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>>56019540
Yes? In fact since switch mods already exist there is no reason other than lack of interest for at least a difficulty hack of SwSh. I don't own an actual Switch so I don't know the state of mods inc onsole but certainly on emulator.
>>56020318
Romhackers don't care about balancing mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2024 14:41:46 No.56023096 Report

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>>56020348
Not every Pokemon, just the ones I like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jun 2024 17:45:34 No.56023643 Report

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why does she get ice hammer but not any of the other hammer moves

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