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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 20:58:22 No.56032284 View View Reply Original Report

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Why didn't it have good fire type selection?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 21:00:15 No.56032290 Report

Quoted By: >>56033574

>>56032284
The fire types all drowned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 21:00:35 No.56032293 Report

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>>56032284
Too much water for the fire types to spread and live

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 21:03:26 No.56032307 Report

Quoted By: >>56032541

It had a pretty decent selection, all things considered. Outside of the stater Pokemon there's 4 lines available, two of which are entirely new if you consider that bonus points. Gen 1 had a very similar amount of fire types, again discounting starters and Moltres.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 21:06:43 No.56032317 Report

Quoted By: >>56032327 >>56032470 >>56033417 >>56034114

>>56032284
it did though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 21:08:43 No.56032321 Report

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I can only imagine the conversation back in time during Gen 3 development
>yeah bro huge volcano in the corner will balance out all the water we'll put some fire types there
>like what?
>uhh.... torkoal and like.. slugma and numel in the cave thing and
>and what else?
>yeah like throw vulpix on the mountain top that'll do

Maybe Team Magma was in the right this whole time. Sick of only shitter fire types being available

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 21:10:50 No.56032327 Report

Quoted By: >>56032571 >>56033265

>>56032317
blud really thinks torkoal and some 4x weak mons noone cares about are adequate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 21:14:52 No.56032344 Report

Quoted By: >>56032902

>>56032284
Game Freak used to care about how Pokemon fit the habitats of the routes and the general theme of the region. From Gen VI onward they pack every route with random shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 21:44:07 No.56032470 Report

Quoted By: >>56032571 >>56033265 >>56033853 >>56034189 >>56035247

>>56032317
>starter
>shitmon
>shitmon
>shitmon
>not until mt pyre so nobody will ever use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 21:56:52 No.56032541 Report

Quoted By: >>56034186 >>56034219

>>56032307
Growlithe, Ponyta, Magmar and Flareon are leagues above the Gen 3 selection in terms of quality

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 22:02:47 No.56032571 Report

Quoted By: >>56032735 >>56032790

>>56032327
>>56032470
torkoal and camerupt are perfectly usable in the campaign. besides, it's not like you *need* a fire type. there's about half as many grass types as water, and the only boss it will be useful on is Steven (half of his mons anyway), where fighting or ground would be more useful anyway to cover the other half of his team.
just get over it, use a different type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 22:30:01 No.56032735 Report

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>>56032571
Amen. I've used both of those Pokemon and both were dependable. It's almost as if discordtroons don't actually play the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 22:37:37 No.56032790 Report

Quoted By: >>56034193

>>56032571
>dude just dont use a cool type in a game
why? fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2024 22:53:35 No.56032902 Report

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>>56032344
Yup, that's why every water route have the same fucking encounters and the Safari Zone surfing/water encounters are exact same in all areas.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 00:08:07 No.56033265 Report

Quoted By: >>56034157

>>56032327
>>56032470
>torkoal
>camerupt
>shitmons
Atleast play the fucking games you goddamn tertiaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 00:32:15 No.56033417 Report

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>>56032317
>Magcargo and Torkoal are both shit
>Ninetales can only be obtained after 6 badges
I shiggy diggy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 00:43:44 No.56033480 Report

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>>56032284
Were you supposed to post Sinnoh? Torkoal or Blaziken is all you need.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 00:49:31 No.56033515 Report

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>>56032284
OP got the wrong picture he meant to post Sinnoh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 00:50:01 No.56033518 Report

Quoted By: >>56033569 >>56033875 >>56034197 >>56034537 >>56035251 >>56035255

What would my pokemon team be in hoenn?
>I hate Fairy type
>i hate gardevoir
>i hate mawile
>only pokemons effective against Fairy type
>only Pokémon resistant to Fairy Type
> anti-fairy type pokemons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 01:00:41 No.56033569 Report

Quoted By: >>56033580

>>56033518
Just play a Kanto game, everything is a poison type there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 01:01:50 No.56033574 Report

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>>56032290
That's impossible when Primal Groudon is around

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 01:02:23 No.56033576 Report

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>>56032284
You get torchic to start with though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 01:02:58 No.56033580 Report

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>>56033569
so
What would be my Team in the Kanto region (let's go eevee/Pikachu)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 02:02:07 No.56033853 Report

Quoted By:

>>56032284
>>56032470
now show me the DP fire type distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 02:08:25 No.56033875 Report

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>>56033518
>>I hate Fairy type
eliminate ever Hoenn Fairy
>>i hate gardevoir
>>i hate mawile
already gone
>>only pokemons effective against Fairy type
Leave on Pokémon with Poison or Steel Stab (poison and steel types)
>>only Pokémon resistant to Fairy Type
nothing narrow down
>> anti-fairy type pokemons
Dustox
Aggron
Roselia
Swalot
Seviper
Metagross
Registee;
Jirachi
Take your Pick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 03:16:00 No.56034069 Report

Quoted By: >>56034075 >>56034199

Is gen 5 the first gen that doesn't completely gimp the distribution on fire-types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 03:18:37 No.56034075 Report

Quoted By: >>56034092

>>56034069
yes, Its Masuda's magnum opus for a reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 03:25:26 No.56034092 Report

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>>56034075
The fire-types you gain access to are generally good too. Darmanitan, Chandelure, and Volcarona(in BW2) all hit ridiculously hard. And if you got the Victini event you have yet another good fire-type to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 03:30:51 No.56034114 Report

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>>56032317
>People shit on Sinnoh's Rapidash, when the best fire type option from the wilds in Hoenn, Ninetails, is just a worse Rapidash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 03:44:31 No.56034157 Report

Quoted By: >>56034166

>>56033265
Have YOU played the games, you mongloid. Torkoal is so fucking slow, it's literally tortuous to use it. It's actually better for it to not use fire moves, and just go with protect+toxic in normal play. Camerupt is barely better. Mostly useful for earthquake rather than being a useful fire type user (especially since its movepool is awful without TMs)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 03:47:50 No.56034166 Report

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>>56034157
>rock slide and EQ by level up

camerupt is good ingame by virtue of being a ground type with rock coverage without TMs. Decent ground options always seem hard to come by in the early gens if you don't want to be stuck with graveler

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 03:54:40 No.56034186 Report

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>>56032541
just Magmar
the rest are niche and not worth more than either especially Blaziken nor Camerupt and Ninetales

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 03:55:41 No.56034189 Report

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>>56032470
Camerupt isn't a shitmon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 03:57:41 No.56034193 Report

Quoted By: >>56034200

>>56032790
Sceptards and Swampervs don't deserve a cool Fire type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 03:59:00 No.56034197 Report

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>>56033518
first, don't play ORASs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 04:00:01 No.56034199 Report

Quoted By: >>56034210 >>56035342

>>56034069
no that would be Gen I

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 04:01:06 No.56034200 Report

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>>56034193
pic unrelated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 04:05:11 No.56034210 Report

Quoted By: >>56034302

>>56034199
>put all of them in one location at the end of the game
aw sweet, got me a fire type just in time to fight a fire and ground type gym leader

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 04:08:03 No.56034219 Report

Quoted By: >>56034309

>>56032541
At least Hoenn's roster was varied. You have no reason to use Ponyta, Flareon or Magmar over Growlithe. They're all mono-fire with nothing else to differentiate them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 04:23:53 No.56034245 Report

Quoted By: >>56034262 >>56034571 >>56035232

When you really look at it GameFreak is often about as mean to Fire types as they are Ice types when it comes to making them actually available to use. Unless you get one as a starter, you can only get a single Fire type (either Growlithe or Vulpix depending on your version) before the Pokemon Mansion at the end of the game. And they're still both after the games halfway point.
Johto is a little better, Growlithe and Vulpix are available right off the bat and Magmar is available reasonably early at the burned tower, but everything else is still either after you get all 8 badges or even later.
Hoenn we're already talking about itt, and Sinnoh fire types are a meme.
Unova gives you the monkey and Darumaka early, but that's all you get. The rest is late game or literally on Victory Road.
Kalos on they finally give you lots of fire types, not only are the new ones early catches (ones literally on the first patch of grass in the game) old fire types are all over the place too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 04:35:04 No.56034262 Report

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>>56034245
>er, but everything else is still either after you get all 8 badges or even later.
with Johto I think you get get the Entei after the Burnt Tower but thats obviously not something most players are going to attempt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 04:54:54 No.56034302 Report

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>>56034210
play the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 04:58:16 No.56034309 Report

Quoted By: >>56034333

>>56034219
>Flareon
highest attack stat
>Ponyta
Fastest and has Fire Spin
>Magmar
the coolest and best coverage

try again next time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 05:07:05 No.56034333 Report

Quoted By: >>56034481

>>56034309
>Blaziken
Fast, mixed-attacker with diverse moveset
>Camerupt
Unique type-combo, learns STAB Earthquake, Eruption & the elusive Rock Slide
>Torkoal
First ever Fire-type wall whose playstyle revolves around crippling the opponent
>Castform
Unique gimmick that gives it a base 150 power Fire-type move along with Bolt-Beam & Shadow Ball for coverage

Yeah sorry Kanto's roster is boring as shit and Hoenn's is much more memorable.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 05:49:40 No.56034481 Report

Quoted By: >>56035050

>>56034333
Stop bringing up STAB Earthquake and unique type combos
I don't want my fire type to literally die to water gun
>Castform
Please b joking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 05:56:31 No.56034506 Report

Quoted By: >>56034511

>>56032284
>what is Torkoal
No accounting for taste I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 05:57:58 No.56034511 Report

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>>56034506
I'm trans btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 06:05:01 No.56034537 Report

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>>56033518
Doesn't matter, your entire team will get solo'd by a steel that fairies Mega-Mawile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 06:11:56 No.56034571 Report

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>>56034245
I felt that whenever I didn't pick a fire starter. Granted, you don't *need* a fire type ever, it's pretty easy to deal with with both what you would check offensively and defensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 08:47:12 No.56035050 Report

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>>56034481
Why are you keeping it in in front of a water mon? Dumbass nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 09:57:11 No.56035180 Report

Quoted By: >>56035206 >>56035232

>>56032284
It's not just Hoenn.
I always wondered if there was a specific reason they always made fire types very scarce.
Maybe it's just harder to come up with ideas for interesting fire Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 10:05:57 No.56035206 Report

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>>56035180
So that CHARIZARD has less competition

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 10:18:26 No.56035232 Report

Quoted By: >>56035257

>>56035180
Not enough volcanoes for them to live in
>>56034245
Magmar is post game in crystal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 10:23:56 No.56035247 Report

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>>56032470
>shitmon
skill issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 10:24:50 No.56035251 Report

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>>56033518
6 Metagrosses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 10:26:09 No.56035255 Report

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>>56033518
Aggron
Skarmory
Seviper
Camerupt
Tentacruel
Roselia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 10:27:56 No.56035257 Report

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>>56035232
Crystal has the Odd Egg. Which has a chance of a Magby and is an earlier than in GS. Though it’s only a 1/6 chance or a Magby so it’s still worse than than in GS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Jun 2024 11:14:08 No.56035342 Report

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>>56034199
Gen 1 gives you fuck all options for fire-types prior to Cinnabar Island.
>Charmander
>Vulpix in Blue
>Growlithe in Red
>Ponyta in Yellow(which is just strictly worse than the Charmander you get for free)
>Flareon, with literally no moves until it's in the 40s
Not to mention that Fire isn't even good offensively in RBY.

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