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Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2024 21:38:17 No.56099306 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>56099318 >>56099329 >>56100941 >>56101152 >>56101192 >>56101338 >>56102291 >>56102973 >>56103048

>champion Is a bugfag
Really show how weak and pathetic the unova région Is compared to e real pokemon region like sinnoh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2024 21:40:33 No.56099316 Report

Quoted By: >>56099321

Why do I get this feeling this thread was made by somebody that hates Sinnoh and Cynthia?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2024 21:41:41 No.56099318 Report

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>>56099306
both Alder and Iris are weak champions
Thats just how it is

Its true in Masters as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2024 21:41:45 No.56099321 Report

Quoted By: >>56099359 >>56102953

>>56099316
it was cause it’s that “plass” spamming retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2024 21:43:09 No.56099329 Report

Quoted By: >>56101188 >>56102725

>>56099306
>NOOOO HE HAS TO ABIDE BY STRICT CHAMPION RULES, LIKE USING THE FOSSIL POKEMON AND PSEUDO EVEN IF IT WOULDN'T FIT HIM AT ALL LIKE XY'S FORGETTABLE SHIT CHAMPION!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2024 21:50:29 No.56099359 Report

Quoted By: >>56099428

>>56099321
That guys love diaper tho (like anyone that despise pla) so that wouldn’t make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2024 22:03:51 No.56099420 Report

Quoted By: >>56101017 >>56101138 >>56101158 >>56101261

Explain me about Bouffalant

>extremely late game mon, found just before the Victory Road in both games
>Has the same BST and a similar design as Tauros despite being completely unrelated
>Signature move is basically just a reskinned Double-Edge, it has the same effect as Gen 2 Double Edge before Gen 3 gave it slighlty more recoil
>The signature Alder mon in the anime over Volcarona

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Jun 2024 22:05:21 No.56099428 Report

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>>56099359
>love diaper tho (like anyone that despise pla)
that makes no sense

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 03:21:41 No.56100941 Report

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>>56099306
ALDITH DEFETAED HER

STAY MAD AND DILATING

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 03:39:11 No.56101017 Report

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>>56099420
proto-regional form. they needed dex filler because they wanted to have 150 new mons just like KAAAAANNNNNTTTOOOOO but ran out of ideas. so they stole a couple from Kanto and called it a day. if BW was made a few years later, Bouffalant would be called Unova Tauros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:05:37 No.56101138 Report

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>>56099420
>>56099420
Local idiot doesn't realize that a buffalo and a bull are different

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:10:01 No.56101152 Report

Quoted By: >>56101172

>>56099306
holy fuck this nigga's team is worse than geeta's
volcarona is literally the only good pokemon here and it's still crippled by a godawful moveset

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:10:50 No.56101158 Report

Quoted By: >>56101174 >>56101196 >>56101218

>>56099420
It had some of the most brutally min/maxed stats for Pokemon at the time. Sap Sipper gave it a 2nd immunity that also gave it a damage boost if it switched in on a Grass type attack. This being in the generation that gave us Amoonguss with the most heinous sleep mechanics in the series. Its movepool was also full of coverage options like Megahorn, Super Power, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt, and tech options like Pursuit.

It turned out pretty okay for Gen 5 standards. If it had a standard Gen 6+ BST of 515 - 530 it would've been busted. Throw 25 points on that Attack stat and it would be running people over like Conkeldurr.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:12:39 No.56101172 Report

Quoted By: >>56101185

>>56101152
Escavalier, Bouffalant, and Volcarona are all good Pokemon in Gen 5. In the campaign where you're unlikely to ever use Stealth Rocks, Volcarona is undeniably better than psuedo legendaries and mythicals like Garchomp and Mew. The only thing holding back Volcarona in any meta is Stealth Rocks - and Blissey I guess - but when Stealth Rocks became a non-issue in Gen 8+, Volcarona became a huge problem despite receiving 0 buffs otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:12:50 No.56101174 Report

Quoted By: >>56101189 >>56102672

>>56101158
too bad this guy was minmaxed in the bulky attacker direction instead of the speedy attacker one
could have been absolutely fucking terrifying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:17:46 No.56101185 Report

Quoted By: >>56101333

>>56101172
escavalier is literally just durant but worse, who is in turn scizor but worse.
bouffalant is ass, it's slow but not tanky enough to make up for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:18:41 No.56101188 Report

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>>56099329
>it's forgettable which is why I keep mentioning how forgettable it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:19:21 No.56101189 Report

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>>56101174
they had to differentiate it from Tauros somehow
>alright let's just copy Tauros's data as a placeholder for this buffalo Pokemon
>should we bother changing its bst?
>nahh just mix it up a little

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:21:03 No.56101192 Report

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>>56099306
they really couldn't even give accelgor final gambit so it could actually do something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:21:58 No.56101196 Report

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>>56101158
not even as minmaxed as tauros

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:31:30 No.56101218 Report

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>>56101158
this is far from minmaxed even by gen 1 standards. abra is still the single most min-maxed pokemon to ever exist, with 105 special attack and 90 speed on a goddamn 310 BST statline.
even things like deoxys-attack pale in comparison.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 04:56:47 No.56101261 Report

Quoted By: >>56101293 >>56101297 >>56102381

>>56099420
What I want to know is what the actual fuck is up with Durant?
>locked exclusively to end game
>bug/steel, great but repetitive typing used twice elsewhere this gen including a legendary
>single stage non evolver, feels especially weird for an ant of all things
>low but minmaxed as fucked stats
>given a solid ability in hustle, butvthen has its hidden ability wasted on truant for no reason
What the fuck was the point of this thing, endgame crutch mon? I guess it could serve that role but it's something so few players would ever consider. Real shame since it seems like a fun mon to use in the main game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 05:04:14 No.56101293 Report

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>>56101261
honestly I think they just the bar too high for themselves with 150 new Pokemon and zero old Pokemon. I mean look at how small every dex since then has been. I think they were probably just throwing random shit at the wall towards the end because there's a lot of weird decisions in the later portion of the dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 05:05:19 No.56101297 Report

Quoted By: >>56101395

>>56101261
it took until sword/shield for this nigga to be usable before the ass end of the game. XY it was locked until after the mandatory post-7th gym evil team debacle, and SM it just wasn't fucking available.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 05:21:14 No.56101333 Report

Quoted By: >>56101355 >>56102749

>>56101185
>escavalier is literally just durant but worse
Escavalier has far more bulk, hits way harder, and has access to Megahorn, the only thing Durant does is be faster, but what can that do with 109 attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 05:22:27 No.56101338 Report

Quoted By: >>56101357

>>56099306
They could've given him Hydreigon, Chandelure or Stoutland

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 05:30:41 No.56101355 Report

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>>56101333
They're opposites in terms of their roles but Durant's 109 attack with hustle let it hit stuff pretty stuff. It has both great STAB and coverage options and loses its main weakness if it can get off a hone claws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 05:32:42 No.56101357 Report

Quoted By: >>56101381 >>56101402 >>56101408

>>56101338
>Hydreigon
>Chandelure
Aces of other major characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 05:45:14 No.56101381 Report

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>>56101357
Didn’t stop them from giving Ghetsis Bisharp despite it being Grimsley’s ace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 05:53:12 No.56101395 Report

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>>56101297
It makes no sense getting Durant early though, it hits hard, has high physical defense with a great defensive typing and is very fast at that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 05:57:44 No.56101402 Report

Quoted By: >>56101413

>>56101357
So what? He's a fucking Champion

Cynthia uses Lucario, Marlene's ace

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 06:01:49 No.56101408 Report

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>>56101357
I saw an idea for a team fix where his team was

Chandelure
Conkeldurr
Bisharp
Musharna
Hydreigon
Volcarona

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 06:02:51 No.56101413 Report

Quoted By: >>56101447

>>56101402
And Blue has Alakazam and Rhydon, Aces for Sabrina and Giovanni.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 06:17:22 No.56101447 Report

Quoted By: >>56102309

>>56101413
Well kinda

Sometimes Giovanni's ace is either Persian or Mewtwo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 13:36:19 No.56102291 Report

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>>56099306
>Accelgor @ Life Orb
Ability: Sticky Hold
- Bug Buzz
- Focus Blast
- Yawn
- Spikes
>Escavalier @ Choice Band
Ability: Swarm
- Megahorn
- Pursuit
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
>Galvantula @ Choice Specs
Ability: Compound Eyes
- Thunder
- Bug Buzz
- Volt Switch
- Giga Drain
>Crustle @ Lum Berry
Ability: Sturdy
- Shell Smash
- X-scissor
- Rock Blast
- Earthquake
>Durant @ Occa Berry
Ability: Hustle
- X-Scissor
- Hone Claws
- Thunder Fang
- Iron Head
>Volcarona @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Flame Body
- Quiver Dance
- Fiery Dance
- Bug Buzz
- Hurricane

There. He's now a proper post-game fight with items on all his Pokemon and a full Bug team that has competent movesets.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 13:41:32 No.56102309 Report

Quoted By: >>56102525

>>56101447
Logical. Rhydon's a jobber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 14:08:25 No.56102381 Report

Quoted By: >>56102416

>>56101261
Truant Durant is pretty good in Battle Tower due to Entrainment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 14:21:32 No.56102416 Report

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>>56102381
Well, it is a true ant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 15:10:12 No.56102525 Report

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>>56102309
Not with Eviolite it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 15:58:06 No.56102672 Report

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>>56101174
it’s a kamikaze wallbreaker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 16:12:51 No.56102725 Report

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>>56099329
Ironically, N and Ghetsis fully meet those rules, which is how you can tell they're designed to be the actual Champion stand-in on a playthrough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 16:18:29 No.56102749 Report

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>>56101333
>but what can that do with 109 attack?
The power creep in Pokémon is disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 17:26:21 No.56102953 Report

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>>56099321
lmao I chuckled everytime he mentioned "plass". Feels like he has the vocabulary of a toddler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 17:30:05 No.56102973 Report

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>>56099306
>sticks up stealth rocks
>kills 50% of aces health
shitmonronabros..........

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 17:53:32 No.56103048 Report

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>>56099306
>région
>Random capitalized is in the middle of the sentence
>to e real
Bonjour Francois

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 19:03:26 No.56103309 Report

Quoted By: >>56103366

He never calls himself a bug-type specialist though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 19:18:28 No.56103366 Report

Quoted By: >>56103398

>>56103309
He should doe because bugs are cool as FUCK
also he should have had Genesect

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Jun 2024 19:26:15 No.56103398 Report

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>>56103366
Genesect is a Team Plasma Pokémon, I think Ghetsis could've had it

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