>>56106980This, although I've seen an end-game gambit beat a zama before by tera'ing ghost on the right turn lol. But honestly both Zama and Gambit are obvious ubers to me, I said this 6 months ago, I don't understand how they aren't banned yet. And I *like* using gambit in OU because it's fun (but I like using it in ubers too, and I wouldn't mind it being relegated there). But zama is is a fucking fugly box legend, and it feels morally wrong to allow that thing in OU. It's too fucking fast, strong, and bulky simultaneously, IronPress snowballs, and tera makes it even worse to deal with. But... it shits on offense, so therefore it probably won't be banned. I wish they would at least put a temporary ladder or host a tournament or something with both of them banned to get a feel for what the metagame would be like without them. For perspective, when Kyu-B was OU in gens 5-7 it was an underdog pick with 2-9% usage. Zama is just cancer. It's not like it can't just pick off volcarona/moltres with stone edge either. I'm going to have to write finch a fucking letter about this.