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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 07:36:12 No.56201524 View View Reply Original Report

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>Conceptually: Mega Evolution > Dynamaxing > Terastalization > Z-Moves
>Gameplay: Terastalization > Dynamaxing > Mega Evolution > Z-Moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 07:40:12 No.56201536 Report

Quoted By: >>56201715 >>56201737

>>56201524
All gimmicks: A mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 07:44:11 No.56201546 Report

Quoted By: >>56201573 >>56201583

>megas have le good concept!
no they don’t
best case you just end up with dynamax but with extra steps and worst case you end up with dozens of shitmons need to be stapled to heavy item and team building restrictions just to be halfway good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 07:48:24 No.56201565 Report

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>>56201524
Good list OP, I agree, no notes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 07:50:37 No.56201573 Report

Quoted By: >>56201575

>>56201546
Why do you care about "shitmons" if you don't compete in anything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 07:51:34 No.56201575 Report

Quoted By: >>56201592

>>56201573
Why do you care about megas if you don't compete in anything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 07:52:03 No.56201578 Report

Quoted By: >>56201583

>>56201524
>Slapping more details and turning pokemon into overdesigned mess is conceptually good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 07:53:44 No.56201583 Report

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>>56201578
>>56201546
Those things are not part of the concept of megas. The concept is "through your bond with your Pokémon, it can attain a more powerful form temporarily", which is a classic trope. The execution is just done poorly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 07:56:26 No.56201592 Report

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>>56201575
I don't really care for megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 08:18:07 No.56201649 Report

Quoted By: >>56201662

>>56201524
Mega and giga are based because they gave us charizard forms.
Z is mediocre; at least pikachu and mew got unique z moves.
Tera is just shit. The hats aren't cool. Gen 9 worst gen ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 08:19:33 No.56201653 Report

Quoted By: >>56201672 >>56202419 >>56203094 >>56203148

>>56201524
You forgot gems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 08:21:52 No.56201662 Report

Quoted By: >>56201688

>>56201649
>Gen 9 has zero kantoshit pandering
Based gen 9

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 08:22:44 No.56201667 Report

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>>56201524
All of them are shit, no gimmicks or something that's quick and simple like LPA's style changes because everyone can easily have it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 08:23:56 No.56201672 Report

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>>56201653
I wouldn't say that's a gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 08:31:56 No.56201688 Report

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>>56201662
>the only gimmick that doesn’t prioritize KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO pandering is also the only one that’s good mechanically
Makes one think

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 08:48:47 No.56201715 Report

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>>56201536
first post: best post.

Also holy shit, people actually like tera in gameplay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 09:00:51 No.56201735 Report

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>>56201524
>LET'S SLAP SOME HIDEOUS SHAPES ON CHARIZARD AND THEN COLOR IT BLACK!
mega evolutions,,, definitely a mistake they were
>Dynamaxing
>Terastalization
>Z-Moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 09:02:17 No.56201737 Report

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>>56201536
FPBP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 11:04:06 No.56201956 Report

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>>56201524
At least for VGC, Tera is a great gimmick and it's the first time I've actually enjoyed double battles since gen 5. Only complaint for the gimmick is how it pushes Miraidon and the horses over the edge, at least in a single restricted format, to the point those 3 have a power gap over the rest of the viable Restricteds.
Not a fan of Megas but they are definitely much better than the other 2 dogshit gimmicks so I don't mind if they return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 11:09:36 No.56201966 Report

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>>56201524
Megas are based because they can all be balanced individually on a dime.
The gimmicks all suck for the exact opposite reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 11:27:53 No.56202010 Report

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>>56201524
>only 1 of a select few pokemon can mega evolve per game and are required to hold an item to do so. the held items are easily obtained, no grinding or cheating required.
>any pokemon can change its type to any type. no held item required. as a result you have to grind for hours for each mon to get the tera type you want, or cheat
It pretty fucking obvious that terasharting shit the bed in a big way. It's the most blatant example of power creep yet and makes the game worse, both from a gameplay stand point and from a competitive standpoint. It's a good concept in theory but in practice all it does is make the good pokemon even better, pushing out other pokemon and making the amount of giable options even smaller, and add unnecessary grinding to an already grindy game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 14:09:53 No.56202419 Report

Quoted By: >>56202694

>>56201653
>Consumable items that can be used on multiple mons instead of one
If Gems are “gimmicks” then so are berries by your retard logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 15:56:30 No.56202694 Report

Quoted By: >>56202743 >>56202757

>>56202419
Are berries only in one generation?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 16:11:33 No.56202743 Report

Quoted By: >>56202755

>>56202694
Are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 16:15:53 No.56202755 Report

Quoted By: >>56202919

>>56202743
Only the normal gem isn't a gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 16:16:48 No.56202757 Report

Quoted By: >>56202770

>>56202694
Megas are in at least 3 generations (and 3 different regions), glad we agree they're not a gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 16:20:20 No.56202770 Report

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>>56202757
I never said they are. Why are "glad we agree" posters always illiterate ESLs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 16:59:25 No.56202919 Report

Quoted By: >>56202924

>>56202755
Every other gem still exist in the code and can be made available from events, so not really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:00:33 No.56202924 Report

Quoted By: >>56202937

>>56202919
And yet they're still not in the game. Keep crying over your gimmick being called a gimmick if it makes you feel better though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:03:16 No.56202937 Report

Quoted By: >>56202956 >>56203066

>>56202924
What makes gems gimmicks but not berries?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:06:32 No.56202956 Report

Quoted By: >>56202997

>>56202937
Berries have been around since Gen II. Gems now only exist as the Normal variant and were nerfed into the soil

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:06:44 No.56202958 Report

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>>56201524
Generally agree, but my problem with Megas is that certain pokemon that got megas should've gotten a cross gen evolution instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:13:04 No.56202997 Report

Quoted By: >>56203017

>>56202956
So if more than one Gem was made available they’ll no longer be a gimmick? That’s retarded logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:15:33 No.56203014 Report

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>>56201524
I think mega evolutions LOOK better than dynamaxing but I think Dynamaxing was a better mechanic overall. But loads of mega evolutions look amazing. Terastalization and Z-Moves are shit gimmicks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:15:57 No.56203017 Report

Quoted By: >>56203060

>>56202997
No, if all gems were made available again, in-game, not through events. Then it would stop being a gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:28:42 No.56203060 Report

Quoted By: >>56203076

>>56203017
>These autistic requirements
No one with a functioning brain cell would view gems on the same level as the gimmicks OP brought up
Seethe harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:29:06 No.56203066 Report

Quoted By: >>56203136

>>56202937
The same thing that makes anything else in this series a gimmick. You aren't complaining about tera and dynamax being called gimmicks so I'm sure you can figure it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:30:32 No.56203072 Report

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>>56201524
>Dynamaxing
>Above anything
>Especially with Gameplay

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:32:37 No.56203076 Report

Quoted By: >>56203094

>>56203060
I didn't say they were on the same level, they're about on the level as something removed like the casino or the safari zone. Gems are a practical non-entity except that they still do exist. The only one having a seething meltdown seems to be you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:37:48 No.56203094 Report

Quoted By: >>56203104 >>56203136

>>56203076
>I didn't say they were on the same level
>>56201653

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:40:13 No.56203104 Report

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>>56203094
Cool. That's not my post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:49:05 No.56203136 Report

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>>56203094
>can't tell anons apart
You ignored you being btfo here btw >>56203066

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 17:51:57 No.56203148 Report

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>>56201653

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 18:03:19 No.56203180 Report

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>sagefag seethes then runs away
kwab

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 18:22:00 No.56203249 Report

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Dynamax was a fucking mistake in terms of gameplay.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 19:03:10 No.56203411 Report

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Concept: Mega Evo > Shadow > Terastal > Z-Moves > Dynamax
Gameplay: Mega Evo > Z-Moves > Shadow > Terastal > Dynamax
Lore: Shadow > Mega Evo > Z-Moves > Dynamax > Terastal
How the AI uses it: Z-Moves > Shadow > Mega Evo > Dynamax > Terastal

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