Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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mordecai won't stop spamming earthquake and killing slowbro/salazzle so fuck it. I also really should've thought of this earlier, it's almost shameful
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
Was testing to see if it's working, but mostly no, I don't even really know if it's stats are correct or close to the real thing since something seems sketchy to me. It does have Electro Shot , but I haven't tested if that's fully functional either. Can't wait for it to never be available in Rejuvenation.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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Okay, Electro Shot does work, but still it's sprites are really broken and it has no cry, wonder if I could fix that by inserting placebo files.
Anonymous
bros... i hate to admit it but
this was kinda fucking cool
>>56241129 sigh
i am curious which character that will be, i guess i'll see in due time
oh my god it desperately needed someone to be like "wait, jesus christ, slow down"
>from what an anon who was friends with one of the devs told us, pretty much everyone besides Jan and likely Zumi think Rejuvenation's story is crap. holy shit, every dev except the main ones thinks the story's shit? that's hilarious
rejuvenation suffers from a very unique problem of having some legitimately interesting ideas, but the issue is jan cannot stick to one of them for the life of him so it feels like there's just several undercooked stories that would be neat if isolated happening all at once
Anonymous
>>56243281 If Rejuvenation just picked one or two of its plot points (garufans, time travel, multiple melias, undertale meta shit, rift pokemon, shadow pokemon, storm 9 etc etc etc) and built around those instead of constantly adding new ones and forgetting about the old ones it would help a lot
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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that was fucking awful. fuck mordecai, fuck the python, fuck luciano, and fuck whoever decided to not give mordecai more then one pokemon for this fight, like god damn pokeballs are 2 bucks I'll lend him some cash to make a team ffs
Anonymous
>>56242884 Nice! gj beating the whole thing
>>56243251 I can post some of the files from All-Gen so you can save them to the Ashen Frost folder, unless you still have your copy there
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>Goes to check LAWD's sprite page to find an workableArchaludon sprite >Sees Meowscarada's sprite Someone was very horny when drawing that.
>>56243281 Jan apparently has ADHD, which explains a lot, the game's story reflects that very well.
>>56242884 Didn't see this, GG.
>>56243366 If you could post it, I would be very thankful, I've been running low on hard drive space, so I had to delete it.
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>>56242884 gg
>>56243281 The MC's nightmare realm is the only halfway interesting part of the school of nightmares t b h
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>Flora Wo-Chien Will probably stop fucking around the files for now, but wow do 90% of the shinies suck bad, they're worse than even base Rejuvenation's worst shinies, horribly bright or far too saturated colors that just look horrible together, that and the fucking fact these retards took some of All Gen's beautiful shinies BUT MADE THEM WORSE.
>>56243414 Oh nononono discord xisters....the kid doesn't want to get groomed.....
Anonymous
>>56243380 Which ones are missing, sprites for Archaludon and Electro Shot, and the Archaludon cry?
Anonymous
>>56243380 If someone else has the cry, catbox keeps fucking up for me. I dunno if they keep banning me or something lel
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56243456 dude's gonna remove some staples
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>>56243456 Functioning backsprite and shiny sprite, the cry I already got from LAWD, thanks for the help.
>>56243465 No worries, I got that one.
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
>>56243324 hit the nail on the head there
honestly, i forgot just how much of this shit was in there
i find it kinda funny how they're trying really hard to keep rift pokemon relevant with the xenpurgis
it's like jan physically cannot let a plot point rest, save for bladestar i guess
>>56243380 >Jan apparently has ADHD well, that explains a lot
it's funny though, as a faggot with ADHD as well you'd think this story would be right up my alley, but i think this is a cut above what i have because Jesus Christ, the sheer density of plot and how everything feels like something i have to remember for later being interspersed with hehe quirkyyy funny scenes is borderline overwhelming
>>56243390 i wish there was more of that desu, or maybe i don't because the more screentime jan gives something the worse it gets
honestly idk why we're using the word "nightmare", it feels like a buzzword at this point. the only thing that vaguely feels like a nightmare are saki and the MC's nightmare realms
"dream casino" or "school of dreams" rolls off the tongue better too
>>56243428 honestly i'm glad i can just. look at shinies in the files or on the wiki because half the time shinies are a straight downgrade to the original visually
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
We can rebuild him.....he have the technology......
That was actually far easier than I expected, just opened the sprite files with snip and sketch and it was piss easy to edit them for suitable use, afterwards it just was a matter of finding a soundfile and party icon, name them ARCHALUDON and then just copy and drag 'em to their appropriate folders.
I could probably do the same for Walking Wake but I'm a bit overwhelmed right now from the lack of sleep and work.
>>56243541 The issue is how often Jan rewrites the plot to try and pretend his "ePiC tWeEsT" makes any amount of sense later, I feel like the only reason Renegade even exists is because he's burned out at this point and doesn't want to continue making the game, but he damn well knows Rejuvenation is his only mark on the map and it's keeps those goytreon bucks flowing.
He's sorta like a discount yanderedev.
>Shinies are mostly downgrades They really are, some fangames do them justice, Desolation has some beautiful ones, All Gen aka the gen 8/9 mod for Reborn has some GORGEOUS shinies like Archaludon's and Ting-Lu's, but some games like Rejuvenation just have horrid looking ones.
>>56243573 NONONONONO.....
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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If I had Dragon Dance on Tyrantrum, this would be much, much simpler......if I had Delphox I would have a way to deal with Blaziken easier, however neither are options on the table........this is gonna take some brainpower.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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Do continue, I am actually interested in this train of thought....
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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And the hag has PULSE 2 Pokemon.......yay.....
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
LilliGODS...We've won again
Whiteouts: 77
https://streamable.com/r96z7l This would probably be much more annoying without Lilligant desu
I think there's not too much more bullshit until the Kaizo Forest, though I might be forgetting some shit kek
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
Wasn't there an npc selling resistance berries somewhere by the point you reach the chateau?
>>56243686 GG, this is like Crowd field all over again but somehow even worse.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56243686 gg. dancing has gotten you through some tough times recently
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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I wonder if she does that because she's superstitious or because it actually works, like does she know or not?
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
OH MAISY, VILE MAISY.......O SENILITY INCARNATE, THERE IS LIFE IN ME YET!!
https://streamable.com/t9q9zf FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
...This wasn't the fight Wagie was talking about right? Miraidon might've been a bit overkill.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56243805 gg, man that's an awful field effect. I can't believe frigga is faster then blaziken
John VPPoster !znRW0dg4nE
>hey sport uh go get some stuff from our rival guild for me in this jungle shithole >er also you only get 500 steps before being reset and you'll have to pay another 750 for another ticket to come back! >now have fun out there! Hello? Hello, hello? Oh, the Debug department? And they're asking for me?
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56243825 Oh don't worry, it's still a few ways away.
>>56243826 Thanks bro, fight isn't so hard if that piece of shit of a lead she has is immediately dealt with, I'm actually pretty surprised Frigga outsped the Blaziken, she's full speed investment jolly, based 87 speed compared to Blaziken's 80, I guess the AI has an adamant nature one.
>>56243835 They added a feature that leads you use passes while inside the place to extend your stay, that wasn't a thing last version, because Octavius is a fucking moron who wants to see the player suffer.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56243805 >>56243844 GG. I'm assuming this is the one?
>>56243835 That sounds awful.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56243867 holographic meatloaf ain't cheap
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>>>>>>>>>>>I bet the kike would approve the frenchoid getting fleeced This game is so close to being based sometimes.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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PSEUDO CHADS, DRAGON GODS......it is truly joever......
>>56243857 Yup, I highly recommend you keep Walking Wake at the ready.
>>56243872 >Pajeets trying to scam Whites at every given turn Sasuga liberal xissies......this isn't very progressive of you.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
This scene hurts to watch and makes Eloise even more unlikable than she already is.
>>56243871 h-haha.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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Truffles finding a baby swinub is adorable. Everything about these Truffles sections is wonderful.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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didn't find this place last time, finally some good tutor moves
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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Power went out for a bit. Remember that when you reach the chateau, you need to go get your affairs in order, since you won't be Sneedvester for a good while after this.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
It's time, need two regional, convergent or weaker Paradox suggestions. Current ones I have are, Wugtrio, G.Slowking and Slowbro, G.Stunfisk, P.Tauros, H.Arcanine, S.Magcargo, Sinistcha and A.Golem.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56244041 Alolan Exeggutor. Embrace the meme tree.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56244041 zen mode darmanitin
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>>56243745 >>56243758 Thanks
>GG, this is like Crowd field all over again but somehow even worse. Ehhh, I'd compare it to Yang's mid battle effect bullshit before that desu
You don't get punished for sweeping like you do in Crowd field, and outside of Mienshao, she doesn't really get any statboosts when you're sweeping, it's just the matter of getting over Mienshao kek
>>56243805 gg
>>56243826 >>56243844 kek, I've been learning what a slow faggot Blaziken is when it doesn't have Sneed boost nearly the entire playthrough
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
thank god i have resigned myself to using trick room, i can't imagine having to hold X and skip through the entire "who's who" bit
the writing just does Not know what it wants to do it feels like, first we're chasing the space cops now we're doing that fucking which one is the right one trope but so easy a neanderthal could do it
ugh
and then the battle against a big villain doesn't fucking matter because they either win anyway or one of the other good-aligned character that aren't you takes the win
>>56243591 >Jan rewrites the plot to try and pretend his "ePiC tWeEsT" makes any amount of sense later it's like he writes something, wants to do something else, and so he rewrites his plot and tries to frame it as an epic twist
yanderedev but he actually is going to make the game, which i can at least respect that? still desperately needs an editor to trim the fat though
>some games like Rejuvenation just have horrid looking ones christ, a lot of of rejuvenation's shinies are wretched. what were they thinking with some of these?
>>56243805 GG
wait is that the level cap you're at
>>56243932 ok that's fucking adorable
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>>>>>>>>The jeet wins over the white girl Who on the devteam is a jeet or a jew? There's not a chance a white person wrote this.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56243686 >>56243805 GG bros, might not be able to do shit today
>>56243901 >>56244098 Eloise and her bitch girlfriend really are far and away the worst fucking characters in this game
I'm not even quick to go for the 'this character was thrown in for muh diversity quotas and representation' unless it's explicitly stated but she literally does fuckall to the entire story except hang around and be annoying. At least Ace or someone from Reborn was asexual rep but also at least contributed to the story if barely and mostly by mangling existing plot beats. Eloise has fucking nothing except being a cunt
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
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That was really annoying kek Whiteouts: 81
Anonymous
>>56243591 Jan will have a yandere dev like meltdown eventually. Calling it now.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56244140 If I huff paint thinner, I can at least see Ace as an extension of Takobell's backstory being his big sister/mother figure who's just annoyingly out of focus in the main story instead of staying in the background like their character should, but these two have done literally nothing useful or moved the plot in any way so far. If it weren't for Eloise being simply a device to draw Syl to the jeet cult, literally nothing would've changed between the Hart/Sylvester investigation here if they were removed.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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Oh no... bros... were we the kikes all along too?
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56244142 is that before or after the cum chalice
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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This path is inexplicably blocked despite nothing solid being visually in my way. Neat mapping.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56244051 Kek, noted.
>>56244061 That's an alt form, regionals/convergents and Paradoxes are my specialty.
>>56244068 Fair enough.
Blazichuck sadly lives or dies by Speed Boost.
>>56244098 >Let's create an ugly lesbo character that looks like a man and only exists to emasculate our male lead and ruin every single scene she's present in What a lovely character.
>>56244120 GG, this fight can be pretty tough, be ready for the big boss of the chapter.
Jan has been delaying Rejuvenation for ages at this point instead of just finishing it, the game has nowhere else to go and he's just dragging it along the floor desperately mooching for goytreon bucks by this point, he's constantly going on hiatus without actually doing anything.
Thanks, yup.
>>56244140 Thanks bro.
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>56244140 Thanks
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56244136 remember this cutscene for later, it gets significantly more pozzed
>>56244120 I think at some point I mentally went through and realized not even a single confrontation with a major villain in this game actually results in the detainment of the villain by the player without outside interference, until fucking the end of this very chapter
>Zetta: doesn't matter, Melia ends up fighting him >Madelis: doesn't matter, Mewtwo too stronk, then Crescent >Vitus: Marianette has to bail you out >Geara: doesn't matter, Narcissa beats up Giratina and saves the day >Neved: doesn't matter, Madame X comes in >Madame X: doesn't matter, she has the KLK sword el oh el >Geara: they run away on Giratina >Zetta + Neved: they run away on a helicopter >Ren and the whole squad: Crescent has to save you >Madelis: Amber and Jenner have to save you >Neved: Tesla has to save you >Angie: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Angie's cunt maid: lol teleports >Neved: he just walks away kek? i guess there were bigger fish to fry >Geara + Zetta: Geara just walks up to you and pushes you into the volcano >Gardevoir: fight didn't matter >Melanie: doesn't matter, you can't beat the Yveltal, Melia has to save yourino >Gardevoir: You actually do win here but of course REN is the one to land the final blow >Flora: doesn't matter, she would have lost anyway >Madame X: You don't even actually fight her? kek >Visorfucks: doesn't matter you just lose, Adam saves the day >Angie, Cassandra: You win these of course when you're controlling OTHER FUCKING CHARACTERS I'm probably missing some and this isn't even counting stuff like Melia needing to save you from Karrina trying to beat you up physically. What an absolutely dogshit game.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56244157 I could also at least see why people might like Ace, it appeals to the tumblroid demographic that likes oh so wacky characters autisming out
Eloise's whole personality is just...being a rude and unhelpful cunt? Apparently this character is liked by the 'people' on the Ashen Frostcord but other than the fact she's the only major female ally and she's a lesbian, I'm not even sure why? Unless maybe they think 'unlikable = girlboss' or some nonsense?
>>56244188 kek
isn't this because 'the kids need a motherly figure for the trip' or something? hahahahaha
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
I've known her for barely 2 full cases and I despise this character. I unironically like niggercai & taka's gangster regional form more.
>>56244191 >Angie: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I kek'd
Anonymous
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new rejuv sprite
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56244191 doesn't huey beat the puppet master with the power of friendship Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56244191 >this isn't even counting stuff like Melia needing to save you from Karrina trying to beat you up physically Scenes like that made me wish the game actually remembered the fucking golden tools I have in my back pocket. If they dont want me using pokemon on people, fine but I have a fucking Axe just let me brandish that against her. Those Rock Climb gloves wouldve been great to use when I was trying not to fall into lava too
>>56244229 Technically you still beat it, Huey just stopped it from dying for an extra 5 minutes for le rune twist iirc Anonymous
is ashen frost even done yet
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY CAN'T I SCAM YOUUUUUUUUU
i'll probably just go beat up the roast chicken for today, if i have the time
>>56244220 i was considering doing that for the volcano tag battle instead but the brain damage from the nu-angie takedown is infinitely gayer
>>56244229 you beat it,
huey just attacks you because he realizes the puppet master was the sister he was a parasitic asshole to >>56244240 or just use your pokemon kek
i'm pretty sure your basic starter mons when you first get them could probably no diff 99% of humans, let alone the powerhouses you should have by karrina
>>56244252 20 of 24 cases are done
Anonymous
>>56244253 >20 out of 24 they said 19 would be the max, scope creep strikes again, did jan take over the project?
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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Well mate, you're already invading their territory and you outright beat the ass of one outside it, I'd say you're already well involved
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
tri attack+metronome made this easy.
>>56244261 based
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>acts like a bitch >comes crawling back to ask for food YEP ok holding X through this entire part
actually physically repulsive character
>>56244260 well they were at 19 before last update which was not the end
i've not kept up with the project for long (at least relatively to others) but i wouldn't be surprised if there was bloat problems
especially with a lot of these later cases being really fucking pointless or annoying (*cough* any section with eloise *cough*)
>>56244270 gg
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56244277 thanks. I feel like there's a specific mordecai case that has no reason to exist other then filler but I can't remember what it is
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56244277 She's the worst.
Also why does this game's framerate eat tremendous shit in grass?
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Nice mapping. Also how do I proceed from here? I feel I've explored most of the possible paths in this mountain. Is there a puzzle with these rail tracks I'm missing?
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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>>56244285 probably the desert one, there's also that dumb school murder mystery case
>>56244303 the grass rustling animation fucks with the game
not sure why after multiple patches they identified the problem and didn't fix it
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56244307 it's not obvious, but during this part of the big ice slide room you can go down this part
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
is amber the only normal fucking person here
if i have to see another backstory about a character i really do not care about i'm going to combust
>>56244176 the big boss shouldn't be too problematic i don't think
ah.
honestly at some point i wonder if zumi should take the reins, i'm sure she's just as bad as jan actually, but she kinda seems like she's actually giving a shit?
hell if i know, honestly
>>56244191 i...
i hate this
i distinctly remember all of these moments frustrating me and god fucking damnit i never realized just how many times another character ends up bailing you out
is it not so hard to make you the player do Something?
don't forget the visorfucks being battled and that battle just being a distraction, which is admittedly an actually smart move on their part, less so when you realize everyone else was just standing and watching instead of jumping kieran
also the only mildly amusing part about nu-angie takedown is adam being depicted as a moai statue in the bestie beatdown graphic
>>56244214 from what i've seen here, this character in this game just looks fucking atrocious, and seems like the kind of character who's an asshole but people claim it's girlboss stuff
ace at least technically moves the plot sometimes
as a faggot it's a shame faggots cannot write a half-decent character
>>56244240 it's like in cutscenes the player character just becomes a fucking statue
just once can we get the luxury to deck someone
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56244314 I'm seething that that's the solution. Thanks for the nudge.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
I don't know what I'm going for here
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56244338 nvm I got it, the solution is in the same room kek
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56244338 it's just the buckets nearby the sliding tile puzzle
if you want to head to the safe directly that's a bit further into the mansion, the code is 4190845
>>56244336 no prob
good luck for the last stretch
>>56244331 yeah, just didn't count that last one because it was the one you were on
i remember seeing on shitcord a faggot going 'there are other games where you get to be a god, play those' in response to the MC feeling like they have zero agency as if not losing, getting fucked over, or stood up in nearly every major plot encounter was too much to ask
doubly ironic since you DO have the power of a god in rejuv, and your entire FUCKING purpose is to change and alter fate
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56244331 >is amber the only normal fucking person here Yep, pretty much.
>is it not so hard to make you the player do Something? Even in fucking Renegade
they pull some shit to have Melia be on your side and the one who kills the majority of the people on that route, with only 3 of them being done by you (And for one of them Melia gets mad at you for it, and another is a literal who) You're nothing but an errand boy, fuck you and everything you thought was special about you, you're never getting the actual job done. The only thing you're good for is winning the pointless pokemon battles that are constantly stated as worthless to your objectives in every way
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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You sure didn't think that through, did you?
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
Will probably be busy for a while since I got some chores to run.
>>56244331 Zumi is arguably worse, she had her own fangame, which is referenced in Rejuvenation later via a sidequest, I didn't play that one at any point and it was cancelled due to failing atrociously, from what I've seen it's very much like Rejuvenation but with obnoxious puzzles shoved in, at least the cast seems far smaller.
>>56244356 Jan desperately wants to prop up his characters without giving a shit about the player and it's absolutely ruined so much of that miserable game, nearly every single version it's progressively gotten worse, even the one big victory the player has in beating Madame (not) Melia is "a fluke" because fuck you.
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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What the hell would a gligar even smell like
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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It's called a "Lock" Sena
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
I dont think I've heard any of them outright shit talking the south district beyond "Hey be careful down there crime is a lot higher there", which is just a factual warning. Maybe as the gym leader and closest thing to an actual leader that district has you should be making more steps towards changing that rather than encouraging it through your thug entourage and complaining about people just trying to live their lives and not get mugged like what wouldve happened to me after taking 10 steps in that district if I wasnt a good battler.
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
oh hey
another battle
i'm sure i will contribute towards fucking SOMETHING RIGHT????
god fucking damnit
if these battles matter this little, it only makes using trick room that much more worthwhile. if the story isn't going to engage with the battling why should i? haha trick room go brr
>>56244356 add hazuki to the list, i guess
i don't understand that mindset, i like a lot of aspects of this game but still am willing to criticize the shit out of it (especially now, this game has dropped the fucking ball harder than ever) but it's like... if you criticize something you just get responses of "you don't HAVE to play this game you know???"
bitch i've spent 100+ hours on this game i'm seeing this to the end, you have absolutely no fucking agency in this game
>>56244371 this is so tiresome
like, i can deal with having no agency if it means i can at least have large enough chunks where i can do my own thing
but this? i can't even have that luxury, it's just walking for five seconds and then another fucking longass cutscene
>>56244383 >Zumi is arguably worse ah, shit
honestly at the very least she has actual experience with a separate fangame, so there's that????
>Jan desperately wants to prop up his characters without giving a shit about the player yeah. that.
yeah, i was really starting to feel it around chapter 14, to the point that my eyes were rolling into the back of my fucking skull with braixen's whole bit
"miserable" is a great descriptor of this segment in particular, it's always just pointless battle after pointless battle that doesn't matter because the villain has a trump card and the other members of the cast save the day
this is a role playing game, what fucking role am i playing
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56244423 gg, that risky chloroblast paid off
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56244427 >i'm sure i will contribute towards fucking SOMETHING RIGHT???? ...I mean, that battle in particular doesnt end with the enemy running away at least I'll tell you that much
Also I wouldnt say trick room isnt engaging in the battles, its just a tactic like any other moves. You dont need to restrict it thinking you arent playing the game by using it, it's not an instant win unless you specifically prepared for that battle to get a sweep
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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Man they eat some weird stuff in cellia
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
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>>56244431 Thanks, Delcatty being a shitter and dying on the switch in wasn't expected, and I knew that Energy ball wouldn't ko, so I kinda had to kek
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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yeah you kinda just, left the front door unlocked
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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...yeah, sure whatever you wanna think
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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>"I'll give you this stone but you gotta battle me for it first" >Leaves it on the fucking table with me in the room She really is putting far too much trust in me for whatever reason
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Miraidon might've been a bit overkill. 4 tries. It surprisingly wasn't quite as free as it looked since Scovillain and Baxcalibur basically solo my team if either of them get a boost, but once they were down it was no problem. There were a few options to get by Exeggutor without letting it set up screens, but debugging First Impression "early" (look at his level up pool's levels if you want a laugh) onto Slither Wing seemed like the best way to go since it'll probably be his last opportunity to do anything majorly impactful this playthrough and I really want him to contribute to at least 1 major boss.
https://streamable.com/pky1yf Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
now I understand the true power of weak armor
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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>>56244490 I forgot to mention, if you're wondering why Screamtail is there, the AI input reads the fairy switchin and will always clicks Icicle Spear instead of the boosting Dragon Scales, so Scream Tail only exists to die so that Baxcal can be outsped by other mons. Cool AI moment indeed.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56244490 gg. you're just matching legend to legend with miraidon, it just so happens it is really good at zapping birds
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
From here on I need to start recording my first attempts, I perfected her again first try like with Scarlett
John VPPoster !znRW0dg4nE
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That's where I come in. Hi, it's nice to finally meet you in person. I've really admired your work, at least from what I've seen in my schizophrenic mind attacks my magic sword is causing me to suffer.
John VPPoster !znRW0dg4nE
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based on what though
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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To be fair you got close to getting Aevis killed through recoil after sucker punch, but then again literally every single major boss has had sucker punch because you all cant help yourselves
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56244423 >>56244490 >>56244505 GG.
>>56244425 Garret is painfully incompetent as a leader, yet he places the blame solely on the people from the other districts despite the fact he does nothing to improve his own.
He's not an unbearable ass but even the game calls him out on his bullshit.
>>56244427 Like Wagie said yesterday, I highly recommend Desolation, the game by comparison treats the MC like a champ.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56244556 >>56244525 Thanks bros. If this was the hardest fight in the game, I'll probably be boxing Miraidon for a bit since it trivializes the game's difficulty, although if DemICE starts pulling particularly gay shit again, I will have no qualms bringing him back out depending on how salty the Full Restore spam makes me.
Iron Jugulis surprised me this chapter. I was expecting him to be Slither Wing-tier bad, and while he's far from anything resembling good (even with Hurricane debugged on, enjoy the gambling!), he at least offered a much needed Earthquake immunity so he's probably not going to be insta-boxed even if he's by far the least useful member of the team.
>>56244427 Seconding Orevald's Desolation recommendation. It's easily the best of the 3 rebornlikes and while it's not done yet, I think it has potential to be one of my favorite fangames if the devs can both continue delivering on what it does well and fix the things they've said they're working on that're holding it back.
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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I mean as long as she's on Shiv's side I dont really care if she takes the stone, but seriously Nova you're a fucking dumbass you had no reason to just leave it on the table Does Shiv just have a thing for retarded women?
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
https://streamable.com/at0e3d wasn't too bad desu
just only had to rearrange my team multiple times and go grab an assload of new shit, then banged my head on the wall against shitty RNG
so, uh, why exactly does sky attack have a fucking flinch AND a high crit rate haha? were they THAT desperate for people to use this move?
initially i used gyarados instead of sceptile once magcargo died so i could bring it down low enough for golduck to finish moltres off but demice must have psychically sensed me using it and made it so sky attack crit and flinch every single fucking time, 12 attempts in a row, at the end of the fight like that, so i used sceptile to just get the chip i needed. gotta love fight design that's just 'attempt the same fight you know is winnable a billion times repeating the same inputs until the rng gods decide to let you through'. i know i'm challenge running a hardmode and this is an optional superboss but jesus FUCKING christ
Whiteouts: 65 or something idk. forgive the long pause on shiftry's sucker punch, my inner biden was acting up again
>>56244423 G fucking G
just one truly fucking ass fight left, haha...
>>56244490 >>56244530 also gg bros. maybe calling maisy the hardest fight in the game is jumping the gun a little, but she's up there on a more normal playthrough
keep in mind there's other contenders for that title yet to come
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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I mean, of course they dont there's no name on the sign outside it. You didnt really need to dig through records to find that out
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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Oh, fuck yeah free manor. Nothing has ever gone wrong with one of those
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
I decided to at least try using Zen Mode Darmanitan but the game's coding is shit and keeps turning it back to a normal one and it keeps screwing me over.
>>56244576 There WILL be horrid fights later, believe me, keep your sandwich eater locked and loaded.
>>56244595 GG.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56244595 gg. was that pause when baxcalibur was thrown in because you were like "damn why'd you have to throw that out next"
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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Shit wait, it's a full on mechanic itself? That's really cool, I figured it was just going to be a place for healing and cutscenes. As worthless as it was buying stuff for the manor was one of my favorite parts of post game platinum way back when
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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>>56244637 >>56244622 Thanks bros
Also no I just got distracted kek, I literally repeated that exact entire battle up to Moltres way too many fucking times I knew Bax was coming out second
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56244505 Based and GG.
>>56244595 GG
>The visible moment of "oh fuck" when Baxcal comes out kek
>but she's up there on a more normal playthrough I can see it. Part of me wants to try playing through again on another playthrough with only regular mons since I'm giving myself big "you didn't beat the game" feeld about using Miraidon here when it didn't end up being nearly as hard as I thought it'd be, but I also don't want to put up with a whole second run of Mordecai, Rosewell, Luciano, or Eloise just to acclimate to a normal team for one fight. Oh well, this has been a really interesting experiment for the strength of paradoxes for ingame use nonetheless.
What am I doing next bros, Sandy Shocks or Brute Bonnet? They're all that's left before the big boys.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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No you stupid nigger, it's very simple. She's fine with fucking over the Lonardos, but she doesn't want innocent and unrelated Lafayettes to get caught in the crossfire. This is not hard to understand.
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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>My maid is a Gardevoir Im going to put aside my rejuvenation trauma for a minute and say that's pretty cool, but I have to question the specifics of this. Is she considered one of Rosetta's pokemon or mine, or neither?
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>>56244490 >>56244505 >>56244595 gg
>>56244556 >>56244595 thanks
>just one truly fucking ass fight left, haha... haha...
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56244651 Thanks bro
And yeah, I don't think it's worth it. You beat the game kek. It's not like you're tossing some overpowered stat stick at and steamrolling her, there's still some strategy involved
Syl won't get any major fights for a few more cases, and when he does it will involve what is probably the other contender for the hardest fight in the game. You might as well just add both at this point for him
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
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Rejuvenationxixters...
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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>>56244689 Reasonable
>pic If Mordecai gets this for free doing nothing to deserve it, Syl getting the Sandwich Beast after several betrayals, near death experiences, and waging a borderline 1 man war against (((the mob))) feels more than justified in terms of karmic story weight. I'll probably box Miraidon for a bit though just so I have more time to play with Bonnet and Shocks to see how good/bad they are.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56244689 Wait never mind, Sylvester does have one major fight haha..
But still might as well add both, and Flutter M*ne + the other busted paradoxes if you want unless you think they'll make shit too easy
>>56244686 You gonna do sidequests like the Skorupi Nova shit as well, or wait until the end/not at all
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Based
>>56244762 If I remember to kek
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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>>56244776 I would definitely be open to playing a full texthack of this game if we ever end up replaying it.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Oh is the nog tribe the wiped out Zapdos tribe?
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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man security sucks in this place, no wonder ditto has a whole undetected jail
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
It really feels like this game wants to call Mordecunt a nigger.
Funny she doesn't outright do that considering at least to my experience Latino Spaniards consistently use black as an insult.
>>56244791 Mordecai is basically the shitty jewish movie type of main character, a complete and utter loser who somehow gets everything going for him in life, while also being the nigger boy stereotype.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
not only do you have to murder a bidoof but you don't even get to keep the shovel for defense purposes
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
I started rolling minor legends for Mordecai
>Chi-Yu Kek, but no
>Landorus-T Healthy meta genie is probably too strong for this point
>Jirachi Probably a bit too strong still
>Uxie No duplicates
>Entei Okay sure. Name my Entei, /vp/.
How long until Zapdos becomes a full party member? I'd ideally like that to be the 6th since it's on-theme.
>>56244808 >Mordecai is basically the shitty jewish movie type of main character, a complete and utter loser who somehow gets everything going for him in life, while also being the nigger boy stereotype. I dislike this trope so much.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>Insert joke about your average /vp/ poster here >>56244820 Don't forget to go back to the hospital at the docks and check in with the guy who lost his arm.
>>56244840 Name the Entei Vesuvius.
It's going to be obtainable rather soon I believe, but it will still take a while.
If you need a weaker legendary suggestion, I highly recommend Bavarian Steel aka Registeel.
>I dislike this trope so much Likewise, sadly it's everywhere these days.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56244840 Evapyrotion, like evaporation.
honestly it's either right at the end or not at all Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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Welp, considering what I checked in the code, I think a battle with him is basically inevitable.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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>>56244840 I don't remember quite when you get it but iirc there's literally only 2 major fights with Mordecai after you do so close to the end
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Where is Arturo's office? Somewhere underground?
>>56244867 >Name the Entei Vesuvius. Consider it done. I really like this one.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56244902 yeah it's underground, I think it's a lawyer's office with a receptionist
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
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While I appreciate the thought, I'd rather not have to fight a 1v3 t b h
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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I was going to say this joke is going to wear thin really fast, but this one got a smile out of me.
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>what's that, chuddie? the froslass keeps critting you? >too bad, try again next time! Whiteouts: 91
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
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>>56244966 >>The froslass can't even have volt absorb like it does in the battle Thanks demice
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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This angst feels so forced. Syl's probably the closest thing he has to a friend and he's already mentally written off his family. Knowing the Lonardos are after him isn't a change either.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
little did i know my nightmare has just begun
because god FUCKING DAMNIT i can't even have one scene to myself
anyway puppet master was a really fun fight, took a couple attempts to get it right but that's not what's on my mind
what IS on my mind is how, sure, we defeated puppet master and all, but the REAL winner was rune
honestly, we could have just destroyed the puppet master, it said "thank you" and called it a day
>>56244435 >that battle in particular doesnt end with the enemy running away i guess? but at the end of the day, winning did absolutely nothing which is obnoxious
>I wouldnt say trick room isnt engaging in the battles that is true, it's a very "sink or swim" type style, but when i swim i fucking ford the rivers. this game does not know how to handle this level of underspeeding at times lmao
>>56244490 GG yo
>>56244505 also GG, weak armor is hilarious when it works
>>56244556 >>56244576 noted, i'm hoping to god the devs don't fuck it up and just keep polishing it
ngl i'm starting to miss reborn
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56244966 Hmmm chuddie, don't you understand that's one of Demice's hmmm amazing "puzzle" battles?
>>56245052 GG and welcome to the boredom that is Karma Files, hope you like the really obnoxious cast.
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
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Whiteouts: 92 Just needed to put Magnezone in front of Hatterene to stop TR and it was ez
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW COULD THE GREAT DEMICE SAMA ALLOW THE PLAYER TO HAVE A M*GIKARP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56245052 GG
>we could have just destroyed the puppet master, it said "thank you" and called it a day Yeah I was thinking the same thing when I beat him, there didnt need to be a reveal for the puppet master's identity, and honestly it just makes the whole thing more confusing because I was always under the assumption the puppet master was always a thing, not just appearing after Rune disappeared. Plus they treat the puppet master as if it's a final boss of the game when it's at best the end of the second third (Once the game is actually finished at least, and knowing jan he'll shove in enough padding for it to be considered a fucking halfway point)
Also fun fact, unless regular Karma is what changes it instead of route, everything up to this point is the exact same on Renegade, there's no changes yet despite the point of no return being back in your nightmare realm
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>Street kids unionizing This game is beyond jewed
>>56245052 Thanks.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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The sheer irony of them parodying Rasputin here to describe a kike is not lost on me.
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
What the fuck is going on in my basmenet and why was I not invited
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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>>56245108 >basmenet i think i accidently shut off more than my pc earlier
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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That's a cute kitty.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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Hate it when that happens.
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
not as many attempts as donna but still took a long time, porygon was the mvp this time.
>>56245182 rip
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56245182 What's the meme with this infamous kaizo forest?
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56245192 GG, the detective squad is pulling through.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56245200 whoever was reining in demice skipped work that day
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56245192 GG. This fight's itemspam rustled my jimmies immensely.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56245200 It's a secret to everybody, however one might say you should considering FREEly BOOSTing your aspirations to the point of LEGEND, but don't SPAM it if you would.
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
>>56244191 It really feels like he saw people complain about how in some media the side characters always job and the MC is the only one that ever does anything like in dragon ball and decided to give them stuff in the way of them saving you
There is no problem in wanting the side characters to do something but do it by giving the side characters their own stuff or make them help out as a double battle instead of a cutscene after the fight, like have Aelita always join you whenever you fight Geara because he tortured her/have her fight him while you fight other peole or have stuff like the Geara + Giratina be a Double Battle with you and Narcissa instead of you fighting both alone then getting saved or just set up from the start as Narcissa deals with one and you with the other so it isn't you getting saved but you two dealing with half of the problem
Well because of the side character bloat there might not be enough to give to everyone and because the villains often get bailed after being defeated so they can stick around a lot of those points would probably stay in another way, why the hell is Madelis still around?
Could even use more of the play as another character for a bit, and to not make these parts feel samey on repeat playthroughs you could give the player like a box/half of a box worth of pokemon to choose from to use in those sections that you can customize with some TMs and EV/IV manipulation or like 3 different premade teams for each character
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56245203 >>56245207 thanks. I'm glad most of the squad is still around, but raichu just can't take much damage even if I shuffle evs around so he had to go
didn't see the movie anyway Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56245215 Funnily enough I'm pretty sure in one of the made versions of Goldenleaf Tower, there was a point in which you fought in a double battle with Narcissa, the older versions of that shitfest were not good, but they were fast less insulting.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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>It's like the players will hate this character we wrote to be as insufferable as possible wouldn't it be really self-aware if we had a message like this h-haha >>56245206 >>56245210 Ominous.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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Trainer spam and shitty puzzles put together with a track that is also used in Rejuvenation during one of it's most aimless sections, it's hard not to notice the parallels sometimes. If you don't have anything interesting or meaningful going on don't waste the player's time.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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This is a good break point for now. I'll continue either later tonight or tomorrow.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
A bit of an arbitrary point, but the fight ahead is tough, need two regional, convergent or weak paradox Pokemon suggestions to add to my team. Current members I have are G.Slowking and Slowbro, G.Stunfisk, Wugtrio, S.Magcargo, S.Lumineon, A.Exeggutor, H.Arcanine, A.Golem, Sinistcha, P.Tauros and G.Weezing. I'm probably stopping here to get a bit of sleep since I'm pretty tired.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
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If you have enough wit to know that something basically was a nothingburger then you have enough wit to rewrite it into being something important
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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If Shane was supposed to be a youtuber reference, is this supposed to be candyevie or just a coincidence?
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
>>56245063 technically i still gotta beat saki, but after this hell i needed to take a break
i've heard she got nerfed into oblivion though
i can't say i'm looking forward to .karma files
>>56245080 it just felt like jan writing by the seat of his pants, and not in any sort of good way.
like, jan forgot puppet master circa chapter 11 and just decided "oh, uh, it's rune actually because that's a twist we haven't had a twist in *checks watch* five fucking seconds so let's do it" even though this was kinda supposed to be the player awakening their interceptor powers.
but no it was rune all along i guess
i swear there's so many twists and turns in this game i'm getting actual nausea trying to keep up
>everything up to this point is the exact same on Renegade huh. feels like there'd at least be some kind of differences, like you forcing the body you're inhabiting to become one with you and everyone acting wary of you but knowing you're kinda the only one who can do this or something, i dunno. my brain wants to fix this.
>>56245088 >>56245090 np yo
>>56245182 oh god, i've heard the horror stories. good luck!
>>56245215 the issue is like, i think side characters lending a helping hand is fucking awesome, but when you're just standing there like a retard doing absolutely nothing while Every Fucking Time the villains either escape or your allies have some kind of Anime Moment and save the day
it never really feels like You do anything, it's just always "look at the cool quirky character saving the day!!!! isn't this cool aren't we having fun look at this"
>>56245240 huh. do you reckon that was against eli and shaleen or were they not around in the older versions?
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
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I don't quite remember it but is it ever explained exactly how this temple and the whole culture almost got lost?
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56245346 >like you forcing the body you're inhabiting to become one with you kiiiinda? You got some options that are more hostile toward them like "Don't defy me" after their fight but overall they mean virtually nothing and they still go "WE are (Player)" and give you the interceptium-z before the puppet master
You do at least have a different move with that crystal on renegade, idk what the paragon version is but if you're on Renegade it's an attack that inflicts Torment and Petrification
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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>>56245379 Okay actually looking through my screenshots again, they do say this leading up to the fight but I'm not sure if that's because I was on renegade or they just say it anyway because they want their life back
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
And the mod changed it to an eevee but the modder forgot to change this, from what I have seen the mod really hasn't touched the post game outside of adding in the quests for the new mons
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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>actually selling battle items I keep forgetting those exist since Rejuvenation had like, 4 total that were only hidden items
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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It costs less than a fucking great ball for all but 2 items what
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
I can hear J*n in my pc going mental over this holy shit
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
>>56245410 I once again wonder what the hell happned
Anonymous
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>>56245435 Jan is malding rn
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
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>>56245436 Uhm well he is there is spirit since the Glimmora I have was his
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
It's over
https://streamable.com/xswlbx Whiteouts: 99
surprisingly low t b h, though I did get pretty lucky on some of those kek
Battle 1>>Battle 3>>>>Battle 2>>>>>Battle 4 for my team
>>56245200 It's a series of a few battles, some already difficult, that get exasperated by the itemspam, it made most of the tripfags seethe (one fight in particular more than the others kek)
As for How it got named Kaizo Forest, Demice/the Discord trannies started calling it that at some point
It might've even been because of me kek, I called it that during the multi LP back at the start of January, and from looking around, Demice started calling it that the next day in Empirecord Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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Wait what the hell? Did I miss something or is this genuinely the first you can hear of it? Does that mean I cant invest in them anymore?
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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Ah fuck they actually did get attacked, when did they even find time to do that? Shouldnt they be busy recovering from the loss in Blackview?
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
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[X] Doubt Well Elias could count as a bunch of people with his worry alone
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
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Not yet, this future kinda probably gets erased since we go back after this
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
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Oh hey, foreshadowing
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56245485 gg, that's the hardest section done if I'm remembering it correctly. the dreaded double battle didn't seem as terrible this time around
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
The Celebi quest with Elias was way better, Taka is legit too passive of a character to actually contribute to it
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
>>56245534 Oh looking at the list now it's either help Flora or see Terra again
Think I'd rather stop here for now
Anonymous
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>>56245544 >Oh looking at the list now it's either help Flora or see Terra again my condolences
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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>>56245544 >either help Flora or see Terra again at that point i would just cut my losses and kill myself
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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What did he die during that attack?
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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I was fucking kidding, jesus christ. Well rather him than Scarlett that's for sure
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
What am I supposed to tell the government worker knocking at my door about the little girl I "hired to work in my manor"
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
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kek
>>56245528 Thanks, apparently, the partner got buffed sometime between when we played and now, I dunno by how much though
I also got lucky as fuck shitting down the TR mon before it set it kek, I'd have gotten raped otherwise
Anonymous
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>>56245634 its fine, you have friends in high places
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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I just realized this manor is directly neighboring the tournament center I can see why the original owner never actually lived in this good lord, I hope one of the upgrades is soundproofing the walls otherwise Im not getting any sleep here
Anonymous
Alright, with Reborn finished I'd give it a B grade. Its one of those games where there are a million issues along with the way that in the moment make no sense (the league structure, half the league being children, the orphanage, the overnight fix to reborn, some characters being forgiven and others not, etc), but by the end of the story I got over most of them, with the combined sum working more than a lot of the individual parts. The post game dragged it down a lot. Partly this was because I dont care for legendaries, but aside from that the puzzles greatly overstay their welcome (you could have cut the number in half easily) and the battles start to become a chore. The final gauntlet is a good example, an 18v6 where instead of having a fun back and forth to finish the game you're strongly encouraged to just set up and sweep so you dont get worn down. Onto the good stuff though, I think the main game is good. The balance is tight, and while you can pick some individual fights and fields that could be better overall it never felt unfair. You can build lots of different teams and approach most fields in a few ways. The MC feels like a big deal and gets full credit, but the cast still get some moments to do stuff and dont feel like they're sucking your dick until you earn it. And I'm glad most of the cast get happy endings (even if a few didnt really deserve them), it was cathartic after a long, often edgy game like this. I could probably go on about a lot of the individual characters or arcs but nobody got time for that, but I'll do a character tier list and shout out a couple I enjoyed in particular Was going to post my hall of fame team but it wasnt really representative of the squad that carried me to that point, so here are all the mons that did significant work for me in this run, with my boy Unfezant at the top of the list where he belongs
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56245732 congratulations and good review. I wouldn't say the postgame was all bad but it definitely does bring the game down a lot with some of it's bullshit
John VPPoster !znRW0dg4nE
>>56245732 GG
Honestly thought you'd eventually have to retire Unfezant but I'm glad to be proven wrong there
And it really seems like they stopped doing as much quality control/reining things in for postgame just to get it all over with and released, to bee desu with you
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56245732 GG. Any plans for a next game?
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>>56245882 >I wouldn't say the postgame was all bad but it definitely does bring the game down a lot with some of it's bullshit there were a few missions I really enjoyed like the celebi one or the train car one, but overall I just wanted the experience over. I could see myself playing the main game again sometime but not the post game.
>>56245930 I wont pretend he was the murder machine he was in the first third of the game, but with a choice scarf he could still revenge kill with brave bird or get out fast taunts, so he never felt like a wasted slot either. He could have been replaced by something better but you could say that about most pokemon
>>56246025 No idea, if its more pokemon maybe replay insurgence as I barely remember it, or go digging and see if I can find a random fangame that looks good. I did get around to playing the new version of the visual novel academy life one and that was pretty good
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
I think one of Ashen Frost's bigger UI problems is that it's not always good about leaving you reminders about what you were last doing when you take a break. Sometimes the case file helps, but the further you go into the game it becomes decreasingly useful for that.
>>56246120 >or go digging and see if I can find a random fangame that looks good It's refreshing to see we're not all fangame dumpster divers yet in here.
>I did get around to playing the new version of the visual novel academy life one and that was pretty good I recall starting that back when week 4 was the newest version. I remember having very mixed feelings about it as while I really liked the premise, I felt it encapsulated everything I didn't like about modern Persona games at the same time while also being lzess than subtle about what the developer's political stances are bleeding into the game itself. I may replay it sometime (either in the thread as a proper LP or not) to see if I still feel the same way about it.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
This historical revisionism sequence is cute but it being so cartoonish works against what they're going for with this scene I feel.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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Being able to input minor text options is certainly a fun touch though.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
This game going full Ace Attorney really was the logical conclusion of its premise. This sequence is neat.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56246256 How do you do this part without making the little girl cry? Does the order matter or does she cry regardless of what you pick?
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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I appreciate the remix of Nier music in this factory (and the underwater lab).
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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What a good swinub. I appreciate Syl becoming the hoge whisperer as a character skill.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Anonymous
>>56246178 >I think one of Ashen Frost's bigger UI problems is that it's not always good about leaving you reminders about what you were last doing when you take a break. A lot of these games are bad like that, its awful trying to figure out what you were up to sometimes
>I recall starting that back when week 4 was the newest version. I remember having very mixed feelings about it as while I really liked the premise, I felt it encapsulated everything I didn't like about modern Persona games at the same time while also being lzess than subtle about what the developer's political stances are bleeding into the game itself. I may replay it sometime (either in the thread as a proper LP or not) to see if I still feel the same way about it. I played up to week 7, though it looks like they just updated it to week 8 the other day
I get you about the persona stuff but I dont mind that, I dont remember much politics in it though
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56245322 Ye brave knight shalt sooneth joineth mine squad.
>>56245346 The retard duo was always sorta around I think, it's been way too long since I played v7 so I don't remember if they were a thing back then, but there was a point somewhere around....v9 or v11 I think? Were Narcissa fought Geara alongside you, back then her role was far less insulting since she didn't DANCE AROUND AND FIGHT GIRATINA WHILE DODGING IT'S ATTACKS LIKE THEY WERE NOTHING, A MIDDLE AGED WOMAN FIGHTING A LEGENDARY THE GAME DESPERATELY WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE IS AN UNSTOPPABLE POWER LATER ON, that and the Goldenwood Tower section dragged on for a fair bit less.
>>56245485 GG, the pain is nearly at it's end, there's an optional superboss in the forest as well later via a quest.
>>56245732 GG and nice review.
>>56246263 It's very confusing and weird and apparently it might have ramifications later, this is one of those cases were it feels they wanted you to use the guide.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56246520 >It's very confusing and weird and apparently it might have ramifications later, this is one of those cases were it feels they wanted you to use the guide. I was autistic enough to reset 9 times to see each possible combination of questioning and all 9 of them get Arturo thrown out of court. Unless there's something I had to have done beforehand to not make the little girl cry, you're basically forced to "fail" that segment.
>>56246482 >A lot of these games are bad like that, its awful trying to figure out what you were up to sometimes Agreeable sentiment but Ashen Frost in particular feels particularly egregious because you're often chasing a hint from a 1-off string of dialogue or small discrepancy in a character's story with no real way to review it later which is far harder to mentally map (at least for me) between play sessions than "okay I'm going roughly this direction I'll figure out what to do when I get there" like you can in a lot of other fangames.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
Will do a few catches before readying for work, I forgot Sneedsler counted as a regional variant, there's some pretty good catches up Mt.Trebel that I can use for my selected specialization, besides that, I need to make a question of sorts, does Basculegion count as an evolution of a regional variant? White Stripe Basculin is basically all but stated to be a regional variant and I'm inclined to use regional evolutions like Overqwill, but that might be a stretch.
>>56246565 The guide says you can keep Arturo around, but I never managed it, so it might be incorrect.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Initial impressions on Sandy Shocks are very good as expected; it's arguably better than Walking Wake due to better offensive typing and a similar offensive statline at the cost of being slightly frailer. Given it has natural access to an offensive semi-boosting move in Charge Beam, slapping an Assault Vest on it lets it easily run away with games if it's allowed to leverage the increased special bulk to fish for a boost as its STAB combo has very good super effective coverage rather than being forced to hit for neutral like Walking Wake often does. It feels weird comparing the Magneton paradox to the Suicune paradox but their similar statlines and roles invite such comparisons really easily.
>>56246583 >does Basculegion count as an evolution of a regional variant? Given that it only evolves from white stripe, I'd say so.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Gave her 4 attempts with my level 60-65 party and wasn't making any progress, got her first try after leveling my mons to the cap to match her.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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>Sylvester willingly plays along with the humiliation ritual Why is this man so cucked?
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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The AI in this fight blatantly breaks the rules of triple battles; their mons on the edges can attack mons on the opposite edges. Fun.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
I don't have cargo hauling duty today, so time to move on a bit.
https://streamable.com/k1ypns Not the toughest fight honestly, I don't understand why Quick Draw or Quick Claw have been proccing so little as of late for SLOWGOD.
>>56246619 Noted, I feel like Walking Wake lives and dies by sun while Sandy Shocks is a bit more varied and Electric/Ground can be a rather nasty offensive combo when you're not dealing with Grass types.
>>56246734 GG.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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Even the game knows this character is a worthless waste of space.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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One of the two based things she'll ever do.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>White (Frenchoid) men having big families bad >Being in touch with nature and cultivating the soil bad How very (((merchant-like))) of you.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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>Get clue that guy is stuck on a mountain and Zapdos won't let him leave >Return to the mountain with Mordacai to see if he can convince Zapdos to let him go >A convenient and arbitrary plot roadblock appears. This game is decreasingly about reasoning and more about just hitting the right plot flags in the right order.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Where's the travel agency located?
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>>56247125 I don't recall, but I think it was either somewhere underground or somewhere Serenity.inc related assuming you're heading to the section where you go to the desert with Mordecunt.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>She thinks she has lost her grandfather >First question she asks is if she's getting money I guess it's low hanging fruit, but oy vey.....
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>Sylvester stuck his neck out multiple times, even so far as going to court to defend this filthy nigger >He says this Really making me love this character game.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
Anonymous
so how is this an investigation/detective game? do you actually investigate stuff or is that mostly background fluff and it's just a standard pokemon game
Adolf Eeveefag !!0c0m/Re0Ci8
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This misses the whole point of the original, where being a big tough skinhead means no one can fuck with you for caring about cutemons. I'm not surprised though, I doubt a troon writer would get any of that. I'll admit this dude was funny enough, at least.
>>56247645 You do find clues, build a case using those, and confront the culprits, but I don't think many screenshots have that part.
Adolf Eeveefag !!0c0m/Re0Ci8
>>56245732 gj finishing the whole thing lol.
I acually wonder if it'd better to just forget the postgame. Maybe it'd feel unfinished, but a lot of the loose ends sound like they'd be annoying anyway. The only ones I can think of who really deserve to come back are Radomus and Samson. Unfortunately, the main game already has faggots starting to get off scot-free, like Bennett and Zero.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
Might end up catching up without posting progress since I'm stuck without wifi for a while where I am and have nothing else to do kek
I'll at least stop before the sidequest fights/rooftop fight in Case 14
>>56245732 Good review. You can definitely tell it was a very different team that handled postgame, not just in members but also general spirit and direction as well
>>56246209 I think that in general is a big issue with this game
It's clearly trying to invoke the Yakuza "goofiness juxtaposed with gritty crime drama" but the main trick that Yakuza pulled was leaving the goofiness strictly out of the main plot outside of some silly things you can do in fights
>>56246947 >>56246734 >>56245485 GG
The grassy terrain fag was annoying back when we didn't expect him to be a boss I think
>>56247645 No, you do solve cases and collect evidence and all that, the cases consist of gathering a bunch of evidence around an area and then presenting the correct evidence at the right time
Later on the cases start to become less of "cases" and more just "plot beats" but the story is primarily detective trying to take down mafia, not a typical Pokemon adventure
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
Also, this is probably why we shouldn't jump into LAWDS immediately kek
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>>56247808 >Bennett at the end of it bennett was the one I gave a pass, because he at least turned of his own volition in a situation where he had the upper hand, then more or less turned himself in without being forced/defeated like every other meteor (except taka I guess) so they could take down the force field
he also gives an explicit apology and acknowledges he fucked up, unlike the others
I came around to him by the end more than I expected
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>>56247808 >I acually wonder if it'd better to just forget the postgame. its hard to say, there are a few legitimately fun parts and the end is reasonably satisfying I think, but god damn its a slog and it you're not happy with people
except El being forgiven then it may piss you off at points
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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I really hate it when games tease me with things being far better than they actually end up being.
>>56247819 Thanks bro.
>>56247824 The bugs add to the fun kek, I can't imagine it being worse than playing through v10 or v11 of Empire or v3 of Cuckguard.
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Let's make an ability that nukes your stats if you are a physically attacking Pokemon. Let's also change special attacking Pokemon to physically attacking focus Empire is fucking testing me
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>AI obviously using illegal EVs again >Full restore spam non-stop >The AI is somehow using multiple items on a single Pokemon >All of this for a dogshit sidequest that gives you a single Pokemon, not even a very good one I am extremely tempted to finally bite the bullet and just spawn a Roaring Moon or Koraidon.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>Scrafty gets a free Dragon Dance and there's nothing that can do to stop it >It's running an assault vest yet it's using non-attacking moves >It takes no physical damage either >It one shots even bulky resists >It has the bullshit 20% accuracy buff going for it so it doesn't even need to worry about it's extremely broken but low accuracy moves screwing it over I don't think there are words to describe how much I utterly fucking loathe Demice.
Anonymous
>>56247973 Those random buffs are funny. I dunno if they even count as a gimmick, since other games have them. It might be pretty sovlfvl to have pulling a knife on people act as an Intimidate, but it gets ridiculous to have that affect, say, a pseudo-legendary
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
It eventually escalates to a point where you don't even want to interact with the game design anymore because it's so obviously dogshit and had no care or thought put into it besides "fuck the player", Demice is nothing but a fucking hack who should never be allowed to touch a game ever again, I fucking loathe this faggot, I don't believe he makes shit like this for the sake of jokes as much as he does it for being a cunt, what's worse is that people suck his dick for utter fucking dogshit like this and from what I have observed it's very clearly a case of people creating an echo chamber and sucking cock verbally while having never touched his games, because if they did their opinions would change in fucking seconds.
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.......
Me getting extremely frustrated aside, image limit, do I bake or somehow else got it?
>>56247998 They are not funny if you're the one suffering through this garbage.
Anonymous
>>56248012 >It eventually escalates to a point where you don't even want to interact with the game design anymore Then don't. Either turn the difficulty down, abandon the quest or drop the game. Not that hard lmao
Anonymous
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>>56248046 >do a self imposed challenge on the highest difficulty >refuse to either stop the challenge or lower difficulty because muh stubborn xD >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY IS THIS BOSS SO HARD? UMMMMM, THE DEVELOPERS ARE CLEARLY THE ONES AT FAULT HERE FOR MAKING THIS SO HARD ON MEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! These chuds are mentally ill.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>TASTY BAGUETTES >>56248094 >DELICIOUS CROISSANTS >>56248094 >DELIGHT IN ZHIS DELICIOUS FRENCH BREAD MON AMI >>56248094