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>RG finishes the game >(un)surprisingly, not much of his opinion changed >ashime heads into the final chapter, witnessing luciano's schizovisions >bunken proves to moltres who the superior phoenix mon is >i fight some edgelords >smeargle finds the beginning of paragon about as fun as pulling fingernails out >leonymous joins a fight club >john vpposter has his soul die from autistic empire strength puzzles >eeveefag navigates electric hell >What is this? A thread where a bunch of autists play shitty fangames. Join if you want.
>Archive https://rentry.org/vp-Plays-Thread-Archive >Fangame Bingo https://bingobaker.com/#6636f8a719381479 >Download Links for Games Being Played Desolation
https://www.rebornevo.com/deso/desodownloads/ Empire (don't play this shit)
https://pokemon-empire-pbs.infinityfreeapp.com Reborn Allgen
https://www.rebornevo.com/forums/topic/62201-allgen-reborn-mod/ Ashen Frost
https://www.rebornevo.com/forums/topic/50919-pok%C3%A9mon-ashen-frost-case-20-revamp/
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
Anonymous
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>>56257491 Why did the females say THAN and the males say K YOU!
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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>you can't fight maisy without zapdos in your party
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
It is honestly funny that one of the characters is Reborn that makes me mad the most is a Rejuvenation character that shows up for one quest
Anonymous
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>>56257489 >I really wish desolation's dialogue that changes depending on the battle thing was here too >implying she wouldn't simply cope and be a bitch anyway Lock
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knowing that this game has pokemon up to the same generation where breloom isn't in OU anymore makes the placement pretty funny
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
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If the quest ended around here it would have been one of the best of the game, but because Terra comes back because of it I hate it
Lock
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wow anna sounds like a brat
Lock
a bit of a nitpick but why is this a thing instead of just a masterball? is there any lore around this
Anonymous
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>>56257619 branding, probably
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
Even the character hates it why did the writers have to make her go back to doing it
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
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>Terra has a speech about how much she hated the monotony of life and how she coped by becoming a clown >moment with funny music right after
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
i like how leonardo this run was fine, but then both of the 'eh, that might be hard but i won't worry about it too much' fights were fucking dogshit
yes, i could have just made it in rpgmaker so the game doesn't force you to use zapdos, but i was stubborn to just beat this with 5 mons kek
and yeah this was basically RNG again that i won with rock slide. maybe with a bit more refinement and a better way to take down that fucking baxcalibur this would've worked without the rock slide flinch
Whiteouts: 151
https://streamable.com/dteo2u >>56257639 it's joebeit
>>56257526 to be fair, they really picked one of the worst fucking candidates
i think i've said it before, but i wonder if they purposely picked fl*ra because jan wrote the quest and jan hates the playerbase
Anonymous
President Ose !!dPKMDSRM24z
We really didn't, Sandy really easily could have replaced Terra since she is a reserve gym leader, only problem would have been the circus has one less attraction but with the legendaries running around they could easily get something to replace her
>>56257678 >only comment is this is shit, barely even functional Well one of the local masochists might check it out
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Another day, another reborncord melty over Opalo
>>56257128 Man, that really aged poorly kek
>Rejuv does almost everything on there now >When it doesn't do it, it's arguably something worse/more retarded >>56257677 gg
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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kek based
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
i feel like in any other game, one of the main allies being diagnosed with God AIDS would be a big deal and setting a ticking clock element and would be
like
interesting
but here it feels like such an odd footnote of "oh yeah melia's gonna die btw but let's not think about that too hard until the inevitable tragic death scene after she saves the day/she gives her power to the interceptor/after you defeat madame x/the storm/vitus/the eye entity or whatever"
point is it's just so casual and i hate it
>>56257663 statis quo is god, i guess
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56257695 thanks
>ayrei and the empirefag whining about it barely even played it >fe = iron deliberately trying to describe everything in the worst possible way and/or makes shit up like one of the characters owning slaves (???) >didn't even succeed at it, but the empirefag was just screaming 'WAAAAAAAAAAAH WOOWWWWWWWWW THIS IS THE EDGIEST AND WORST FANGAME EVER' over basic shit like beating up the white wailord (????? kek) lol
i wish someone would have chimed in with a 'hey just like how empire has a scene where a group of tauros rapes a girl on-screen right?' just to see the reactions
Anonymous
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>>56257491 >schizovisions ???
Anonymous
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>>56257688 doubt it's on the same tier as any of this other shit lmao
average ashen frost discordtranny
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Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>one of the sidequest rewards for lucile is fucking confusion (yes, the 50 BP psychic move) >this late in the game el oh el
i'll probably just do the adamant lustrous shit because fuck that fight and skip the rest
>>56257712 she's also definitely not going to die or is definitely going to get revived kek
>jan trying to create two epic fakeout deaths for his ultimate OC yeah nice try nignog
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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fucking kek
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>>56257678 >Nearly 1.5 gb huh, that seems a little high desu
>>56257731 kek
I wonder how mindbroken some of the more mentally ill trannies were over this
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
talk about the pot calling the kettle black
>>56257747 you know what, good point
i never said that the "tragic scene" will end with melia dying For Real, because we all know damn well paragon will tie everything in a neat little insulting bow
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
jesus CHRIST
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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man i honestly wish the entire game was like this desu
or at least more of the game was like this
>>56257756 kek, yeah
i have no idea when case 19 dropped, so i don't what time to go searching
>>56257770 there are apparently a few 'alternate' paragon routes
there's supposed to be only one true 'golden' path iirc
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56257784 >First thing I see getting on the thread for the day Good fucking lord, I didnt know it was THAT bad. Im pretty sure by this point in Renegade you would instead be working on killing
Karrina already just for reference
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
>>56257784 i read all of this and learned absolutely nothing new
i hate you jan
i hate you So Much
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
i have to wonder what goes through jan's mind. i get this is probably for replayability reasons or whatever but
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Anonymous
>>56257832 Assuming you picked it, enjoy an ungodly long backstory that's reflected nowhere in her character because she (and most of the game) been retrofitted who knows how many times and wasn't designed with it in mind.
This was completely unnecessary, the rest of her group (protags) don't have or need an entire autobiography of their life before coming to Aevium.
don't tell Jan I said that he might get ideas RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
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>f12 crashes the game >MC is leader of gayming club >Celebrate it's 3 year anniversary with the various waifus and one dude who joined >Go home, sleep >end up in pokemon world or some shit kek
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
i fucking hate these stupid fucking faggots so much it's unreal
not counting whiteouts against them
>>56257849 mistyorangeGODS...
>>56257832 >>56257872 don't worry, v13.6 will better incorporate her connection to darkrai and cresselia, i-i'm sure of it
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
sylvesterxissies...why do we keep embarrassing ourselves...?
Lock
you didn't like learning about le heckin sad backstory from cresent?
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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go fuck yourself, you greasy little kike
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
epic
Yeah, I don't particularly feel like rolling the dice on whether a trainer works or crashes the game kek
>>56257907 And yet, still somehow leagues better than vanguards mc kek
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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the schizophrenia begins....
>>56257948 to be fair, that's partly because the bar for the vanguard's MC is located beneath the earth's core
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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It is so stupid how you get to this fight, if no one told me I wouldve just assumed the elite trainers were there to keep you from easily grinding credits because all 15 regular fights and the first 2 elite fights use the same trainer pools
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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they took YOUR queen bees, all but one of them, you know those queen bees that make your family money? they went on your property to do it, too, that other thing they aren't supposed to do. you were more mad about them using tunnels that weren't in use otherwise
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
I was willing to not go for the perfect this time around since I had to go through so many fights already but I underestimated the power of "baton pass to no guard lycanroc" and the stubbornness of the AI really wanting to hit me with sucker punch despite the horrid matchup in front of it
https://files.catbox.moe/6ggnm3.mp4 Lock
whiteouts: 10>4 fucking flinches in a row
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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This already went without saying for the most part but this really makes me want to say it, Amelia has been infinitely better than any villain j*n could possibly write, and this seals it for me. I could already get behind a villain that's upfront with being evil and selfish, but now she acts like a genuine rival with this. Hardy can go screw himself, Amelia is my true rival
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
hey, that's my rating for this game!
>>56257872 every baffling story choice this game makes now just causes me to rest my hands in my face and just
sigh
there is no purpose to this, it's just fat
>>56257921 it just feels like jan desperately trying to make you feel bad for crescent
>>56258061 rock slide and icicle crash will forever be my least favorite moves
so unreliable when i use them, but when the opponent uses 'em? i have to pick a god and pray
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56258029 gg. for some reason I thought you'd take less damage with max defense buffs
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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>>56258099 If you wanna do the math, these are Amako's stats. I dont know how people usually build lycanroc so I just went with atk/spe for my EVs
Anonymous
>>56258096 Is Paragon literally just slice of life shenanigans?
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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>>56258123 I think Aelita does something important? But aside from that, there's nothing really going on in the background of Renegade for me to think anything of note happens on Paragon
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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kill yourself, demice
>>56257992 thanks
>>56258029 GG
>>56258123 yep
you just bum around for a month waiting for the xen raid, because that unlocks bullshit in zeight somehow
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
another boss whose focus is outspeeding you, can you guess how this went?
it was even easier than expected, given sneaky pebbles actually work in sky field
>>56258123 apparently so
see, i wouldn't mind slice-of-life shenanigans if this wasn't rejuv and there weren't astronomical stakes at every given moment
it just feels... off? i dunno how to describe it
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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GOD ACQUIRED
Anonymous
>>56258170 >see, i wouldn't mind slice-of-life shenanigans if this wasn't rejuv and there weren't astronomical stakes at every given moment >it just feels... off? i dunno how to describe it No we need to do nothing while Xen sets up an "unbeatable" rift to massacre GDC because... I forgot their reasoning.
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56258170 >it just feels... off? i dunno how to describe it Its probably a combination of no character being a character you want to see in a casual setting for how awful they are, and the fact it's so late into the game you actively WANT to see it end, regardless of it's by your own hand or not
It's not like the concept of "Cast takes some time to refresh themselves with slice of life stuff before impending doom" is an inherently bad concept, the last airbender did it pretty well from what I remember if you've ever seen that show because of how natural it felt there
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56257677 GG.
>>56257716 And
Simon , a character you're meant to like makes note that the Yo'ACK niggers are a problem to society and should be removed, and how there's a nigger beating his wife to an inch of her life with a whip in Ilyria, and how the game tries to glorify a psychopathic nigger who mutilated and gutted children and enjoyed every second of it, I cold keep going, empirefags deflecting almost makes me laugh, but I'm pretty sure these morons are so obsessed with white knighting for Octavius and his shit game that they might unironically have alerts set up whenever someone brings up anything even remotely Empire related, I've seen them appear in the most obscure corners of the internet just to defend Empire and deflect from it.
>>56257818 Oh it gets worse.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>thievul is a special attacker that barely learns any >it's still weak in that department >doesn't even have pickpocket or frisk as abilities >any coverage move is physical
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
faggot
https://streamable.com/v019nd i wanted this to be a nice clean dracovish sweep, but the fat nigger had other plans
forgot to screengrab the end of fight image, but it's
forest leo >>56258266 kek
i don't know if light screen/reflect are natural, but maybe should just teach them anyway
>>56258265 well, most of the empire stuff you listed i think is also overblown or not supposed to be the 'intended' reading
that being said, if presented in that exact way on rebornevo...
or maybe could talk about how reborn has lesbians committing domestic abuse/a tranny acking themselves
or how rejuv has a part where a woman stabs herself on screen, people get flung into lava, a guy gets blown to pieces while he's going through a teleporter, DUDE EDGY LMAO, TRY TO PAINT IT IN THE WORST LIGHT POSSIBLE
it's all so tiresome
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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a thousand times more natural than the 'HEY GUYS REMEMBER POKEMON EXIST AND PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FRIENDS WITH THEM' huey scene in rejuv
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
a thousand times more natural than the 'HEY GUYS REMEMBER POKEMON EXIST AND PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FRIENDS WITH THEM' huey scene in rejuv
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
>>56258213 because wire frames?
which honestly doesn't make it any better, forcing slice-of-life shit for a pointless ulterior motive just feels weird
one could argue this is a "oh this is the last bit of respite they get before shit hits the fan" thing but we all know no one iin the main cast is going to die so who gives a shit
>>56258224 it's a trope that could work really well if it has this sort of intentionally uneasy vibe to it, but instead it's just... contrived? i dunno
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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woah i found john vpposter
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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>man is talking about high prices >>>while looking at a statue of a nosepass >>>>>>sylvester brings up (((roswell)))
Lock
Whiteouts:12
>6v30 fuck you. the first battle was easy enough. lycanroc spamming rock slide beat most of cain and all of shelly while azumarill took care of the rest. the luna battle essentially turned into a series of well timed 1v1s to make sure no one fainted. all of my pokemon did their part at the last battle but the biggest players were scrafty and sawsbuck. I used sawsbuck because it had camouflage and nature power turning it to boosted gear grind which muscled past a huge chunk of their team
>>56258317 on top of the fact that this game has been in development for years, me personally I don't have the patience for that
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
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well, happy happy joy joy to you too
>>56258348 no kidding, i just want to get with the fucking program here
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
You should REALLY word that better.
You know, in retrospect this section is actually pretty good, the big problem with it is that Mordecunt is the main character during it.
>>56258296 GG, I now remember why I gave up on trying to beat this fight.
I don't think it's overblown really, I mean, Empire is shit at presentation to begin with and Octavius is a moron who's extremely autistic, him saying "it's not meant to be that" when it very often clearly is, is dumb, remember that moron said the niggers invading Telius is meant to represent the Roman empire and it's neighboring nations or something like that? Yeah I don't fucking buy it.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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And of course.
Lock
does anyone think julia's life at this point is a decline? I mean she is a gym leader
>>56258362 thanks
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
kek
>sylvester is such a massive faggot for luciano he begins imagining two of luciano at once to get gangbanged by them >>56258348 G motherfucking G bro
after this, hopefully the league will be a breeze
>>56258358 it wasn't octavius, but instead another dev, stoicstone
either way, even if it were the intended messaging i don't really care if octavius is actually a chud or his game is chuddy, it'd still be dogshit for a billion reasons besides kek
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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i won first try and didn't really feel like resetting to record it, natural rain is godlike for this dualtype kek
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
truthfully i'm running out of things to say, here
>>56258348 gg though, the glass gauntlet is still one of the most nuts things i've ever seen in a fangame honestly
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
What are the rewards for the shitty zapping minigame again? Just boost berries or was there something else? I think you could get good tutor moves right?
>>56258388 I am a chud, so obviously I wouldn't care if he was, my issue is that so often clearly bends over to try and appease the same libshits who hate him by shoving troons and such into the game and trying to make them look virtuous or some garbage and the people who suck his dick so often go out of their way to try and shit on other games just to deflect from Empire, it's just fucking maddening.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>sylvester's time as a lumberjack >surrounded by beefy beardy mcbeard men i don't like where this is going....
>>56258410 >gg though, the glass gauntlet is still one of the most nuts things i've ever seen in a fangame honestly haha...man, i remember when i used to think that too
>>56258422 no, it's just type resist berries
>>56258395 thanks
Lock
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literally why is she here?
>>56258395 >>56258388 >>56258410 thanks
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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>wins battle >enemy refuses to stop for some reason >instead of losing anyway, takes the hatchet and does the job himself
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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What would be the purpose of that, the blackview teleporter isnt far from the day care and you already get a teleporter to it in your house for letting the jinx guild move in anyway, which was completely free
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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kek, well, at least he admits it
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
spent too long coming up with this, neat detail with the dollar sign turning into pokebucks though
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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uh oh, looks like gramps is off his meds again
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
h
hard cut to a gauntlet, i guess????
only mildly surprised i first-tried it, thanks to me just to happening to lead with bronzong instead of carbink
>>56258438 i'm sure the postgame is all kinds of fucked up in reborn, too
i haven't actually gone too far in it, the ennui started to kick in
Lock
oh yeah I beat the pulse hypno. I got caught off guard with the battle so I couldn't really prepare for it. luckily I can cheese it by spamming awakenings since it kept trying to use dream eater on my azumarill
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
kek
not sure if i'll do the version of this for mordecai
>>56258596 GG. yeah that's the walmart version of glass kek
>i'm sure the postgame is all kinds of fucked up in reborn, too not even just reborn
the amount of bullshit we've been subjected to from demice, moto and their affiliates has been quite 'fun'
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>Let's force the player who's currently stuck with an Electric type with no coverage face a bunch of incredibly bulky Ground types that will not stop spamming Rest and other healing moves Why is this game like this?
>>56258579 Kek.
>>56258596 GG, yeah Jan randomly decided Rejuvenation needed to have it's own version of the glass gauntlet.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56258608 zapdos gets rain dance which you can use weather ball with
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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They had the chance to make the player face UBs here or something interesting, yet they just went with Unowns, pretty lame.
>>56258633 That's still a whole turn of wasted time and these fuckers are not fought in gauntlets for whatever reason.
Lock
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>ACKHUALLY
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>scizor lived a Life Orb Adamant Fishious Rend >no focus sash message
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
Even the game knows I took a massive detour for a while there, I made it worse for myself too and went back to train up a couple new pokemon since my team was feeling a little stale
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
Anonymous
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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alright, time to finish the plot
>>56258686 thanks
>>56258680 no, they just always assume you take massive detours in desolation kek
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
Wow, it's almost like you have literally no reason to exist and everything related to the Flores is a retarded waste of time.
>>56258674 GG, there really feels like there's something off with the defense stats, I didn't brush the code, but didn't Rejuvenation on intense give some Pokemon a 1.2 defense modifier to opposing Pokemon in the past? Wouldn't be shocked if Demice copied the code for that.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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oh i see, yeah maisy definitely received the report on hart well after the fact
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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it's nuts how much the plot nosedives at this point, at least in this they work in the grooming and not letting syl or mordecai talk to each other as part of the plot but it's still terrible
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56258721 i guess it's possible the scizor is just 252 hp/252 def and then uses technician plus some item to hit as hard as it does kek
we can see the scripts and no, the only things the difficulty affects besides the harder teams are maxed out PP and higher accuracy for opponents
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56258721 Oh wait no you're talking about something that would only be in the PBS which we don't have...
Huh. Maybe, kek
Lock
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I'm going to be fucking sick
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
Yeah what was that about her not being willing to help
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>>56258674 >>56258751 Did it bullet punch? Beak/Rend care about moving before the target rather than being faster to my knowledge, so priority would fuck it up
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
this has really just been going every which way, i guess now alice is evil or something i don't fucking Know anymore man
of course, if anyone's doing actual fighting it's not me
>>56258601 GG
>>56258606 no kidding, that was wimpy as fuck. Ass Gauntlet.
>the amount of bullshit we've been subjected to from demice, moto and their affiliates has been quite 'fun' oh god, i forgot, people going all in on the kaizo faggotry
>>56258608 and as usual, it has nothing that makes reborn's glass gauntlet kinda nuts/kinda cool
i felt nothing beyond just confusion
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56258793 Nah, it was going for Dual Wingbeat
That with Technician and a Choice Band or some kind of power boosting item with 0 attack EVs seems to line up with the damage Dracovish was taking? Would be a really weird set though
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56258770 Yeah, I just worded it really poorly and made a fuckload of grammatical errors because I slept for about 4 hours in the last 3 days and I'm going a bit haywire by this point.
It's probably me being way too paranoid again.
>>56258787 You did find the secret room off to the right of the archives right? That unlocks the good ending steps, if you need help doing it, just ask.
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56258814 >You did find the secret room off to the right of the archives right? Yeah, the one with entry 5 right?
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>>56258809 kek
I mean, it worked I guess, assuming Demice is randomly speccing shit to survive Dracovish
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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That's... fucking weird for a lot of reasons
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56258818 Yup, short of it boils down to fight Aurora and say Nova saved Shiv, now I know that might sound really stupid,
but let's say Nova hasn't been herself for a very long time, and that there's deeper layers to this. Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56258838 why does all the good ending stuff involve saving a redhead girl
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56258909 Because Caz has good tastes I'd say kek.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
obviously a really easy fight, but as the final mandatory boss of the demo, decided to record him
i do actually like how this is one of the few later game bosses that feels like a proper back and forth instead of needing to autistically calcnigger or make very strict setups though
https://streamable.com/gsv7jb i'll probably do some of the devshit before finishing up here
>>56258814 Go get some sleep bro. Rest is more important than fangames.
>>56258820 that would be amazingly petty if that were the case kek
>>56258798 >rejuv MM's crowbar >urmumium's nuclear hellfest >reborn yang's version of the glass and fiore gauntlets where they're all PULSE2 with multiple megas and have bullshit entry effects >empyrean edge of eternity's final dungeon haha...
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Yugigods, we stay winning. I took 3 of the Jack Atlas structure decks, tossed some Bystials in there (and Dis Pater in ED), then proceeded to win against Gimmick Puppet FTK (opening a 2 Bystial hand to not die), Ashened (bro was playing a fun deck), and an engine pile mishmash that ended on Colossus and Secret Village with 2 other interactions. Somehow I managed to play out from the 2 floods in my third match in an exceedingly long and grindy game before time was called.
>>56257731 kek
>>56257677 GG
>>56257890 This fight was somehow worse than the Kaizo forest because their team is specifically EV'd to beat "normal" breakpoints for Lucino's for speed and Luciano has very few viable meteor beam/rock slide switchins after setting sun unless Ninetails is getting sac'd immediately.
Everything about that fight sucked and I honestly am not sure how you're "intended" to do it without either breaking the AI, a lot of luck, or itemfagging.
>>56258909 No redhead left behind = good ending.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56259006 thanks, and gg on the yugiohshit yourself
i did the dumbass fight without items by i think leading with ninetales, attacking cradily and letting armaldo get paralyzed, and then setting up dragon dances with flygon while python took out cradily and then i helped him take out the left side quickly before moving onto the right
it actually wasn't too bad once i got the strat down, but yeah it is fucking annoying (arguably not as annoying as the fight you'd have to do later if you skipped it though kek). i also thought i'd have to dodge a rock slide flinch again which....eugh....
>>56258909 is it really a good ending if you're not saving qt redheads?
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56259022 >while python took out cradily Do you know what caused him to do this? He was insistent on clicking Dragon Rush on Armaldo and letting Cradily set up multiple meteor beams for me no matter how I sequenced it? Is it some really specific EV spread autism the AI responds to?
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
Back, went to get lunch.
There's not a single tusked Pokemon in this entire damned fucking valley, the fuck do you mean ivory?
>>56259004 Pretty much GG for real this time. Did your opinions on the game change since last time?
The issue is I can't, I have chronic insomnia.
>>56259006 Based and GG, I am really pissed Konami still hasn't nerfed the absolute dogshit that is Gimmick Puppets, the new support feels like it was designed by a 5 year old.
My props to the guy running Ashened, the TCG made sure that deck would end up being a joke that was nearly as bad as War Rocks, but hey, at least they have swarming and good generic support going for them.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56259004 gg. it's bizarre that with how this game has treated legendaries as deities
that arturo just has a garlarian zapdos Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56259006 gg, sorry you had a master duel round irl
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
https://files.catbox.moe/10qrtt.mp4 That definitely took me a few more tries than the last few, but I still cant believe my dumbass strategy actually worked.
Yes those few seconds at the end are me forgetting to stop the recording >>56258937 >>56259006 >>56259022 fair enough
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
it just feels like things are just... happening
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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If this is a rebornlike, that's severely unlikely
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56259082 gg, that part with synchronized mimikyu was funny
>>56259083 but jan has to pad out the game while they
steal new plot ideas, you can't just have nothing happen in between those times! then the updates wouldn't have much content to advertise and people would lose interest, think of the patreon!
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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what a nice team demice
would be a shame if someone were to just run a few inconvenient grassmons
>demice is a gingoid and probably br*tish explains so much
>>56259044 i can't quite remember sadly. i think weather balling the cradily turn 1 got it to such low HP where he went after it? though i'm sure you would've tried that. i can maybe check if i still have the save somewhere
>>56259053 thanks. i'll share a bit more once i'm properly done.
sorry to hear that bro
>>56259058 thanks. it really is odd, maybe it'll get elaborated on more later since they seem to imply the galarian forms of the birds are 'corrupted'
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
fuck, let me post the actual image and fight kek
https://streamable.com/ijgwqx >>56259083 sadly describes a good chunk of the game before this point too
this is just where it reaches the worst of it
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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Yeah its weird thats the third town in a row I've entered that caught fire. Also>She completely trips over her words when you wake up
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>>56259004 gg
>that would be amazingly petty if that were the case kek I'd believe it
>Devs want to put Arctovish/Dracovish in >Demice seethes, knows Draco in particular wipes everything out without too much investment (arcto does too with a snow setter though), but can't screech about it and remove it, likely due to already screeching about lilligant since he said before he couldn't also nuke sneedler >Therefore, the next best thing would be to randomly spec some of the remaining physically bulky mons to try their best to survive it I also wouldn't be surprised if there were other 'weird' EV spreads to help deal with other strong shit, but of course, without the trainer pbs, it's pretty hard to tell
>>reborn yang's version of the glass and fiore gauntlets where they're all PULSE2 with multiple megas and have bullshit entry effects Desu AG Allgen's Fiore gauntlet was worse than Yang's imo, Florinia very blatantly sabotaging (you) so fucking hard by giving Blake a free 8 turn Snowy mountain to play on
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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That's one way to describe attempted cult suicide
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>Shiiiiet whitey, yus gon gib reparashuns now >>56259082 Baton Pass GODS....
GG.
>>56259083 I remember being beyond burned out during this section, it's one thing to create incoherent shit that is eldritch in nature with how convoluted it is, it's another to create sections that are just boring hallways where nothing of fucking note happens.
>>56259159 GG, fuck that sprite is hideous.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>Tfw you're so lazy you can't even properly heat up tendies
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
?????????? who the fuck are you?
https://streamable.com/625v8h >this is the fag who gives you lilligant thanks i guess? at least i can use it?
also that was a really easy fight for what's supposed to be a dev and also broke the pre established rules of the game to bust out a mega
nice pick for a legendary too?
i guess
Whiteouts: 154 to demice
155 to this
>>56259163 >>56259213 thanks bros
>>Therefore, the next best thing would be to randomly spec some of the remaining physically bulky mons to try their best to survive it kek
honestly, though, if that were the case i'd be surprised he didn't put more energy into having dedicated anti-dracovish mons on every team instead of weird EV spreads
>Desu AG Allgen's Fiore gauntlet was worse than Yang's imo, fair, looked like absolute shit from my outside view
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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Guess I can add her to the list of people who want to get into my pants now. There's no way Connor can't hear her saying this
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56259159 gg.
>the music doesn't loop properly gj demice
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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I'll start up again shortly after dinner. I'm unsure if I'll do sidequests before wrapup; I'm feeling my patience with this game begin to wear thin which is good that I'm so close to the end.
>>56259022 >>56259065 >>56259053 Thanks bros.
>gg, sorry you had a master duel round irl My opponent was floored that I was able to push through slowly chipping away at his board and not dying with Branded Beast, Branded Regained and a single (1) Saronir that slowly escalated into a comeback.
>>56259082 >>56259236 >>56259159 GG
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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Let's hope it takes me more than one attempt this time
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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Why does every single fucking fangame insist on this? Gardevoir isn't that good, neither is Gallade even after that massive glow up it got via Sharpness, this feels petty.
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
well, it was fun!
oh who am i kidding it was fucking miserable, time to hop in the time hole and slay some hags!!!
>>56259134 honestly, i'm learning so much with this game on what not to do
i have always been a believer that less is more and rejuvenation has only strengthened that belief
>>56259159 act 1 was not bad all things considered, but act 2 just felt like a nosedive
>>56259213 that's basically how i feel, just constant burnout over things stopping and starting and starting and stopping just fucking get on with it
it's not even stuff that makes me think, because jan has No subtlety in his writing
i went in with low hopes for this one PMD romhack, strung up by sketches, but turns out i actually Enjoy incomprehensible stories that cause me to use my fucking brain for a little bit after the mindless slop that is rejuvenation
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
That's Zapdos' name.
>>56259341 Best of luck, this fight on Paragon is kind of hilarious due to how tricky it is.
I am personally fine with complex stories that can be pretty convoluted, especially as someone who used to study history a lot, but there needs to be cohesion, Rejuvenation has none, things just fucking happen and often drag on for too long because Jan has no clue how to wrap them up properly, I hate that I'm pretty interested in jumping into Rejuvenation again to try out LAWD.
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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https://files.catbox.moe/0jo16b.mp4 Same strategy worked pretty well, but I'll give her this it took me 5 attempts to get it working instead of being first try
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>Rosetta's fight uses a djthesdotcom remix
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
And that's fucking that
https://streamable.com/y1e43b Whiteouts: 166
Finally, more of what I would have expected from a dev room
Definitely going to reset so I didn't have to use the sash though
>>56259341 GL bro. It's pretty tough
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56259408 Her pose is weirdly endearing. I know it's just because her sprite was templated but given her character I can't help but interpret it as her struggling to contain her excitement to battle you.
>>56259413 GG. Final thoughts?
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAISY PLEASE I DIDN'T MEAN TO PLAY IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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anyway, that's a wrap
>>56259418 thanks bro. deciding whether to rewrite my review or just do a quick 'these are my new thoughts' thing. probably going to take a break first
Anonymous
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
The moment the song picked up, I nearly went hysteric laughing.
>>56259422 KEK.
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>>56259413 gg
>>56259422 fucking kek
Makes sense t b h
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
https://files.catbox.moe/anu0rd.mp4 Mana has proven herself to be the better Gardevoir
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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The final mon of the run...
>>56259422 kek
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
>>56259361 can i be honest here? spacea's gimmick was fucking awesome actually, i actually legitimately panicked at the sight of that, that was the first time i felt an emotion from this game in a while that wasn't Frustration
>I am personally fine with complex stories that can be pretty convoluted oh, absolutely same here! but there's a difference between convoluted and incomprehensible
>>56259413 the flowchart with my team was there, just needed to connect the dots!
>>56259413 also gg!
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56259500 GG
Im not sure how different the fight is between the routes, but sounds like you had a better than I did
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
you know uncle ruckus' reaction to finding out he's black?
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>Dragon Darts is straight up fucking broken in doubles and will either crash the game or completely stop working like it should and just not anything at all Nice job niggers.
>>56259500 GG, get ready for one of the shittiest scenes in any game ever.
I went completely fucking ballistic when I saw Tiempa stealing my Yakub.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56259497 >>>>Pede Limit kek
gg. How're you liking playing not-Rejuv so far?
>>56259500 GG too
Anonymous
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>>56259529 Jan being the true villain of the story checks out, a later version will probably reveal you as the truer even twister villain.
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
>>56259535 Most of what I said before I still stand by
>>56236181 but it does feel like the game is sorting out it's pacing issue a bit, though I kinda wish Shiv had said a little more about Aurora before entering cellia instead of talking about Nova more and having the archives dump everything about her on me. Even seeing the entry I needed for the good ending stuff I never really felt like I wanted to help Nova over her, especially with Shiv constantly telling me she isnt to be trusted only to suddenly simp for her in cellia
Overall the story is still a lot more enjoyable, but I have a couple problems with it regardless
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
it's rejover...
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56259447 >>56259458 >>56259500 >>56259437 Thanks lads. And good job yourself Smeargle for doing the needful to the spacehags
>>56259651 Yes indeed haha...
There is the terajuma password, and maybe if you had a save right before the split...
I know you said you wanted to experiment with Florin dying but I can just find the variable that deals with that
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
what do you get for beating the skorupi president bounty hunter
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56259668 a toxic plate
she's too hard for it desu, i only did it because i was a masochist. could come back later with zapdos
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56259672 yeah double expanding force and that fucking intleon is not budging for me kek
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
I am entirely fucking convinced the AI knows it can abuse flinches against me, I fucking swear that fucking PIECE OF SHIT OF A FUCKING MONGREL MISTAKE PISS STAIN OF A FUCKING LEGENDARY THAT IS MARSHADOW would not stop spamming Rock Slide, for no good reason, it only clicked Rock Slide and it was always a flinch, without fucking fail.
Also.
>No "I AM ALL OF ME" playing during this fight That's gay, you gave Blade the perfect edgy as fuck theme and you just never used it again.
https://streamable.com/ee2kiu >>56259651 If you want to make the mistake of going through Rejuvenation again, do you want to try out LAWD? Aka the gen 9 mod for it with some spicing of the difficulty and such? I'll be trying that tomorrow after I finished Ashen Frost, though I highly recommend some rest.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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There's like.....5-ish major battles left sorta not counting for the dev room ones? And you give me a mediocre pseudo when I already have nearly every single one besides Kommo-o? That's piss.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56259692 gg bro
>going through rejuvenation again bro you gotta stop
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>>56259714 Thanks bro.
Sadly I am so used to the pain and mind numbing misery that it feels weird not submitting myself to it by this point.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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kek. Real manlet problems.
>>56259645 Makes sense. Having seen up to the end of the current version, I definitely see your point but I also struggle to see how they could've stretched certain bits out further given the density of larger contextual clues being scattered around for developments you're going to be coming up on soon. It's much faster than Rejuv or Reborn but given the sheer amount of subject matter they want (and need to) cover, it's hard to see it working any other way. Perhaps integrating more characters into earlier sidequests if you do them before a "cutoff" (the quest plays out normally if you do them after the main plot flag that'd make it not make sense happens, but has extra scenes for characters to develop if you do them ASAP further encouraging the player to stop and do the sidequests as they come which will ease up the pacing of the main plot).
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56259651 GG. How much alcohol are you consuming now?
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
How do I get this retard out from behind the barrels?
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56259788 can you talk to him from the ledge up the stairs?
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
ok well tl;dr my thoughts from last time aren't really changed kek. but i guess i'll redo the review>Presentation >Combat
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>Gameplay >Story/Characters
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
This is also a big problem when it's clear the game itself clearly weighs narrative, story, characters, etc. very heavily and expects you to like them more than you actually end up doing. >Final
Anonymous
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>>56257526 I cant understand the reasoning behind flora being the rejuvenation delegate for that quest, how in the world would that encounter make you want to play that game
unless its as
>>56257677 says and just out of spite for the player
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56259803 >>56259806 >>56259811 good review. I have to agree with the combat part, we've been through way worse
unfortunately since we first played this, you and rg especially with that forbidden "game". also I have to know, what is with the crowbar?
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56259829 thanks
>what is with the crowbar? kek..do you really want to know..
it's madame moto, the insanely retarded rejuv difficulty mod. the crowbar refers to a lategame superboss that's hidden behind a puzzle that involves map metadata of all things to fly to a hidden island to get a crowbar, and then you fight a ridiculously fucking shitty 6v12 boss on one of rejuv's most broken fields. white man spent like 20 hours fighting it Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
>>56259509 that sounds painful!
i fought tiempa first, and she didn't go origin mode, so i'm guessing spacea snagging your pokemon is something of a paragon gimmick
>>56259530 i admit, it'd be a lot cooler if this wasn't pokemon rejuvenation. dumb meta shit is a guilty pleasure of mine
>>56259534 >>56259535 >>56259661 thanks!!
>>56259692 first i've heard of LAWD.
i may just rawdog it with regular rejuv though, just speeding through it with a monotype run
>>56259740 i don't drink or own any alcohol! but if i did it'd be a nice glass of wine
i may make a busted smeargle crest and do a mono normal run, make it at least a little fun for me! i deserve it!
Anonymous
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>>56258385 >does anyone think julia's life at this point is a decline? I mean she is a gym leader I kind of give that a pass because even if your life is pretty objectively successful like Julias seems to be, you can sometimes feel like you're fucked and its all downhill
Same thing with
Amaria Anonymous
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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>>56259850 the thing with LAWD is that it does (apparently) do more than just spice difficulty up, so may actually make a second run feel more unique than just 'pick the shitty dialogue options and kill florin'
still your choice, doe
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56259847 man it just always gets worse somehow
Leonymous !!wgGLdYXkQ+8
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>>56259850 >that sounds painful! You have no idea... If you wanna see the real highlight of the fight, here
https://files.catbox.moe/2kzow1.mp4 Shouldnt be any actual renegade spoilers beyond what that screenshot showed, but the renegade version of their fight is something else entirely, Jan's shitcode is set to max here
Anonymous
Anyone with reviews on this?
Anonymous
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>>56259850 >i may make a busted smeargle crest and do a mono normal run, make it at least a little fun for me! i deserve it! yeah if I ever do decide to self harm by playing rejuvenation again I'm going to make some custom crests for my boys
you best believe unfezant is going to run wild once again
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56259801 I'm dumb. Thank you.
>>56259803 >>56259806 >>56259811 Good review. I have a lot of similar sentiments but some things bothered me more or less than in your case.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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>>56259890 we just haven't gotten around to playing it yet
>>56259905 thanks bro. definitely curious to hear your own thoughts when you're done
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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I'm breaking mordecai's theme team because I just want to make some progress
Anonymous
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>>56259890 just at the start of it but you have lucas' model in the game but reds on your trainer card and that bothers me a lot
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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This right here is a good puzzle. It has something it wants you to do, complicates things slightly, then finishes without overstaying its welcome once you've proven you understand the concept.
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>quagsire quick claws ahead and uses yawn on arboliva >swords dance to max then bullet punch spam
Anonymous
>>56258313 The truffles saga is kino
John VPPoster !znRW0dg4nE
>octavius made Tyrogue's base attack 60 and base defense 57
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56260002 >I feel way weaker as mordecai. The held item drought is real.
Anonymous
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is fixing rejuv even possible? or do we just remove the few likeable characters from that game and have them star in their own fangame?
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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stopping here, fuck mordecai, fuck arturo, and most of all fuck leonardo.
>>56260013 I'm definitely salty but it hurts to switch into mordecai and just see an empty bag, all of my options gone
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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AND EVERYBODY CLAPPED
>>56260010 This has to be trolling. There's no way he thought this was an unironic good change.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56260002 GG. I think once you get to Case 14 you can buy the converters and a bunch of stuff from the casino that Mordecai gets access to.
If you're breaking the theme team for him Mordecai gets quite a few options. You can get Basculegion which is strong for the rooftop fight for instance
>>56260007 One thing I forgot to mention in my review is that I think this game handles Pokemon being weaved into the plot and world possibly at some of the best of any fangame desu
Again makes me very sad when the creator says shit like this
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>>56259651 >>56260002 gg
>if it's the lack of held items The lack of good, hell, even decent items on Mordecai is really bad for the first couple of cases after you really start building his team
It gets better, but man, those first couple of bosses are rough with the item drought kek
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56260073 thanks. yeah I'll probably just make non-theme team for mordecai and just be glad the sylvester detective squad has been going strong.
>that pic they were being sarcastic, right? I will puke in my own shoes if there's an ashen frost "revamp" that changes one of the best parts of the game
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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That's sure a death flag.
>>56260073 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zapdos' entire bonding with Mordecai is under the pretenses Mordecai may be a colossal faggot but he's the first trainer Zapdos has had who doesn't see it as a glorified gun Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56260079 thanks. it would be really cool if I could deposit items in the pc as syl and grab them as mordecai to solve this very annoying problem
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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Oh I see. If I didn't fight them at the docks with Python, I'd have to fight them here with a far worse partner, right?
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
This fight happens abruptly, but not actually hard if your opening 2 are ready for it. 2 tries; had to redo the Diglett cave since I hadn't saved before that.
Anonymous
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
>>56259850 I frankly just loathe meta crap, if I read a story or play a game, I want to get immersed into it's world and be able to enjoy it for what it is, so having to deal with the media in question telling me "lol it's just a game, get fucked lmao" really, REALLY rubs me the wrong way, it also doesn't help it's one of the laziest fucking things as well, it takes no effort or skill to pull it off and it feels like whoever made the story would rather piss in the face of the people consuming said media, than actually continue writing or working on it.
Noted.
>>56259890 It's a horribly bloated zoomer fangame that was clearly made by someone with a terrible case of ADHD, I played it until the first city and I was extremely overwhelmed, there's no substance to the game, there's no direction, no point.
>>56260002 GG.
>>56260073 This feels so innately retarded, considering many of the more kino Pokemon sections are a the start, I'm guessing Ekat isn't the one who wants to keep Pokemon relevant to the plot, that especially feels like the case considering that sections she was heavily involved with like Fogdale take a huge backseat regarding Pokemon, the entire ferry section had NOTHING Pokemon related happening.
>>56260178 GG, it's pretty much over besides a little bit of plot and a few sidequests, also the dev fights if you feel like going through them.
Orion
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Holy shit is that raging bolt
Anonymous
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>>56257491 This pic seems like its from a romhack where everybody treats you as if you were jesus like its some kind of narcissistic powertrip-based romhack or whatever
Anonymous
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>>56257826 You should learn this: never get attached to nor give a fuck about fanmade characters, especially if its from a shitty fangame, it'll either hurt knowing that the protagonist is too unpopular and will never be acknowledged outside of that game ever again, or it'll waste your fucking time trying to know more about them. Best to simply turn off your empathy and laugh at these awful OCs's misfortunes
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56260197 >>56260220 Thanks bros, it's review time now I guess.
Oh boy, where to begin. This review will almost certainly take 3-4 posts as there's a lot to talk about.
This review's format is going to be a bit different because it's hard to break things down into simple things I like, dislike, and are worth discussing because the game doesn't maintain consistent quality (or lack thereof) on any of them all the way through the game especially once you start jumping between characters.
Lets start with the things that do stay consistently excellent throughout
>Presentation, Spritework, Animations, Sprite choreography, worldbuilding, atmosphere, Truffles, Fearow If these are important to you as a player in what you look for in games, this game is probably worth your time regardless of all of the other issues, of which they're as plentiful as they are severe.
>Pacing This game's pacing starts wonderfully with a slow investigative gameplay where you uncover information both about your case but also about the world around you. The gameplay, tone of the game, and narrative unfolding work in tandem to deliver an excellent experience...for the first few cases. After the big reveal of the Don's identity, everything shifts and not in a good way. Cops who were once friendly with you at crime scenes are now actively antagonistic and apparently always hated Syl, you're bombarded with a laundry list of mostly unlikable new characters, you jump back and forth between Sylvester who, despite being a spineless cuck, is at least in an interesting and sympathetic struggle and Mordecai who is basically rewritten into an entirely new character once his bank account number goes up (this isn't the message you think it is, writer. This isn't "crime makes people do niggerish things" you intend it to be, it comes off far more as "being wealthier improves your personality and behavior from what it was" which I assume is not your intent).
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56260279 This brings us to
>Characters and their implementation The game struggles to maintain consistent characterization of its main cast throughout the game. I already posted about how ridiculous Maisy's flip late in the game was, but the more I think about it, the more this is an endemic issue with the entire damn game. Mordecai stops being a streetnog once he realizes WE WUZ KANGZ, Sean is initially portrayed as an autist and a bit weird, but ultimately good natured and well mannered to eventually becoming the butt of many jokes and hated by Sylvester for seemingly no good reason when he tolerates far more garbage from the local lesbians. Sylvester flips between fearless fool who doesn't know when to quit and spineless cuck who is literally only moving forward because the player is controlling him and forcing him to do so. The less I say about Luciano here the better; I've already said everything I need to say about him elsewhere in the threads. The only characters who truly keep consistent characterizations the whole way through are Arturo, Rosewell, and the lesbians and all 4 of them are absolutely insufferable, although Arturo and Rosewell are at least fun to hate. I cannot say the same about the ESG-mandated dykes though and they actively detract from every scene they're in. Being rude, petty, and catty is not witty writing; the "sick burns" are not endearing, they're just tedious especially when the characters do literally nothing else of value the entire game. Later on Sylvester goes through a dad arc and seemingly becomes a beacon of stability for his kids (of varying quality as characters) while seemingly healing himself in the process.....until suddenly he's not because the narrative needs Leo to be pushing him over the edge psychologically even though all of Syl's behavior and dialogue showed he was trending in a healthier direction rather than not.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56260279 >>56260306 >Continued because there's more to talk about here I will give credit where it's due, Leo's obsession with Sylvester makes for a truly repulsive antagonist (in a good way) and does a very good job creating perceived high stakes without needing to be threatening to the entire setting like a lot of authors make the mistake of when they want a villain to have a sense of urgency to be stopped. Aside from the outright bad characters, the underlying pattern with this game is that the macro-level narrative not only doesn't gel with but often outright conflicts with a lot of the individual personal arcs a lot of characters undergo and characters are often forced to regress or act out of character in service to the larger plot even if there's absolutely no reason why they should. There's a singular exception though; Fearow's implied story, sense of obligation and duty to its deceased former trainer, his reluctant tardwrangling Mordecai, and eventually coming to an understanding with him in the desert after realizing that Mord doesn't see him as a tool or weapon is very well done. The only problem with it is that Fearow's absence from watching over Mord before the story starts to when the reveal happens for the audience is not explained or even handwaved away.
Anonymous
>>56260073 >Doesn't want pokemon to be in a Pokemon game I can never understand this bizarre mind cancer that plagues fangame creators that cause them to make the Pokemon as irrelevant as humanly possible. If you don't want pokemon to exist in your story, then why the fuck are you even making a POKEMON FAN GAME to begin with? Make something else! Make something you can sell! But wait, they need that brand recognition to make PINO games that are just engines of their fanfictions that nobody would give a damn about if the pokemon name wasn't attached to it.
John VPPoster !znRW0dg4nE
>need to talk to the detective lady (I think) about the episode 7 secret quest >she's not in her office >talk to secretary to figure out where she went >secretary tells me detective lady is in the office >oh I must've just not seen her or something >go back in >she's still not there
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56260279 >>56260306 >>56260319 >Battle Design Oh boy this is a big one. Before the tranny lurking here begins dilating in the thread again, I'm not weighing this nearly as harshly as I should be given how egregious a lot of these design problems are for both creating interesting yet challenging gameplay but also basic common sense in game design.
>Y-YOU DIDN'T BEAT IT CHUD YOU USED A DEBUGGED TEAM FULL OF MONS I DON'T LIKE AND D-DIDN'T SOLO THE GAME WITH TRUFFLES SO YOUR OPINION D-DOESN'T COUNT I'm sure there's any number of deflections for any and all criticism aimed at this game that the delusional or deranged can conjure. Lets get to the big ones: the game outright cheats by giving the computer free accuracy buffs and then uses teams designed around said free buffs. I don't know what was going through DemICE's head when he decided this would improve the experience of a hardmode and encourage the player to engage with more of the game's core systems like any well made hardmode does. The other thing that's absolutely not okay is the sheer volume of Full Restores all the trainers have. It's genuinely baffling to me how a fight that's designed around setting up Belly Drum and spamming full restores to support the boosted mon and cure its status/offset Belly Drum's cost got past even a single round of internal playtesting. Removing large subsections of counterplay certainly makes the game "harder" and forces you to "strategize" by figuring out which developer-approved strategies have arbitrarily not been removed/mitigated. This mindset becomes especially apparent in "puzzle fights" with fixed teams; there's a clear developer intended solution and the player can test, experiment, and F12 around until they find it and suddenly the fight is near trivial (most of the time, the pirate duo fight with Python is an outlier here).
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56260279 >>56260306 >>56260319 >>56260343 I wouldn't be opposed to this kind of "Puzzle fight" gameplay if the puzzles were both framed as such and interesting to solve such as the ones in Salt & Shadow, but these are neither along with lacking the type of "hook" that the puzzles in Salt & Shadow have. When you see a mon 25 levels above you and have a bunch of weird niche garbage moves on NFE mons, it's very clear you're looking to do some funny business to overcome it and usually the gameplay reinforces this specific brand of feeling like brains overcoming brawn, but most of the "puzzle" gameplay in Ashen Frost, especially later on, is guessing and checking EV spread to hit specific benchmarks. The cherry on this shit sundae of confused design ideas comes with the fight with Leo on the rooftop. You're stuck fighting a team optimized for a weather more complicated than most Reborn fields with no ingame documentation, no exposure to the weather to learn how it works ingame, no ability to change the weather, and best of all, the AI using Full Restores will actively stall you out inside this damaging weather on top of everything normally awful about the enemy trainers using items. I normally make it a point to play through hard games like Clover, Reborn Redux, Reborn Allgen (with the challenge stipulations I did last run), Desolation (with difficulty raising passwords) with minimal/no debug usage and no in battle items because there's a lot of really interesting situations that arise in the gameplay in those games, even if some of it is frustrating at times. I felt none of that spark here; by the end of the game I wasn't thinking twice Full Restoring my way through battles in the last couple cases and sidequests because the game's fight design had entirely failed to create interesting situations organically. Even when I didn't need items and "strategized" my way to victory, I didn't feel satisfied and was just glad to keep the game moving along.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56260279 >>56260306 >>56260319 >>56260343 >>56260370 >ESG-compliant I hope the devs are getting paid Blackrock-bux for all this wokeshit and aren't doing it for free like jannies. This is easily the most pozzed game I've seen in a very long time. It's not quite as obnoxious as Africanvs because it's not pretending to be historically accurate, but it does come across as almost a parody of netflix/yidsney slop at times with how overdone it is.
>Closing Thoughts I so want to like this game. There's a lot here to like but the game just gets worse the longer it goes on, losing focus on both the pacing and small building yet calculated character arcs that defined it early on. The gameplay, at least on hard starts tumbling down the stairs at the second fight of the game and never really recovers but at least you can either change the difficulty or at least use debug to make otherwise monotonous and boring fights more interesting. You may have noticed I recorded very little of my fights from the midway point of the game on; I genuinely don't feel the gameplay on hard was interesting enough to warrant recording and uploading as the best way to overcome full restore spam is set up a sweeper which isn't interesting in the slightest to watch or play. I'd give this game a 5.5/10 but I'm willing to bump it up a whole point to 6.5/10 because I like Truffles and Fearow's roles that much.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
This game feels like it has a much more mild case of the massive shifts in focus that Rejuv does narratively; like it's sometimes has huge chunks of the game outsourced to different (less competent oftentimes) writers with entirely different priorities, to the detriment of the product.
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>>56260401 gj with that whole thing lol. It might have been a slog later on, but it does sound like the update made it a bit better towards the end.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
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>>56260477 Case 20 drastically improves a lot of things but it's not enough to break the fall entirely. I'll definitely see the final four cases through to the end when the ending update hits, but I almost certainly will not do a full replay unless a lot of issues are addressed.
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alright, after trying out some other games and not finding anything that grabbed me I'll give Opalo a second try. Heres the squad I apparently had when I dropped off
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lol
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Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56260279 >>56260306 >>56260319 >>56260343 >>56260370 >>56260391 GG and good review. Sad that the second half of it ruined it for you that much along with Demice's autism on the whole, but not exactly an uncommon viewpoint around here kek
>>56260339 I think like with Rejuv or anything else, they probably aimed at making a Pokemon centric game to begin with and slowly as bad planning and/or lack of competence in being able to have a cohesive or focused vision for their game whittled that down
At least in Ashen Frost's case it's just the developers being retarded with how they implemented Pokemon actually being pretty good and for some reason fantasize about removing them because clearly all 'people' (discord users) talk about is the gay mafia niggers so those matter more than the Pokemon. Other games like Rejuv are not so lucky
>>56260341 You need to head to the industrial docks, which you can do by talking to the desk lady in the museum. From there there's a conversation you have to listen to.
then there's a secret switch on a bike rack, then you have to go the glownigger office, not the detective agency one. from there hopefully it should be pretty straightforward
Anonymous
>>56260662 Why not just restart? It's not that long of a game
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Adolf Eeveefag !!0c0m/Re0Ci8
Fuuuuhck I thought Charlotte was the last gym with doublesshit. First this troon, then later Hardy too, fuuuuuhck this field boosts Dazzling Gleam too. Xe Jinping might not be so bad with the Special Defense on a lot of these, but I'm guessing Hardy's gonna spam Rock Slide
Anonymous
>>56261224 nah, I'll tough it out, already mostly caught up I think
>>56261276 If you end up doing the post game theres a ton of doubles there too
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56260279 >>56260306 >>56260319 >>56260343 >>56260370 >>56260391 >>56260401 gg and good review. really hope they pull it together for the final cases as the second half really does nosedive, also yeah fuck the accuracy buff so sick of nothing missing these high power moves
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does anyone know what fucking company are they on about to get 10 revives for a quest in Empire.
Adolf Eeveefag !!0c0m/Re0Ci8
I thought it would be worse, but they're still starting to do a lot of damage, while I'm still using more or less the same shit from level 40-50. I had to Fly back to get Iron Tail, but I don't think I used it here.
Luckily the AI's hazards can be predicted. Problem is, the Protect+nuke that worked wonders against Blake/Fern and Solaris doesn't work as often here. Those guys had mostly single-target attacks, so you could use Protect on the weaker mon which they'd focus on, and nuke them with the other one. Here though, this troon (and I assume Hardy) have a lot of spammable shit now like boosted Dazzling Gleam and Rock Slide.
Also, I don't think this troon does that field-switching trick from vanilla, from Misty Terrain to Fairy Tale shit. Too bad, would've been good to see it before Tit*nia.
>>56261295 Looks like they're 6v12 too kek
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>>56261349 gg
>Looks like they're 6v12 too kek yeah they throw a bunch of those at you
they're not all bad but they do tend to encourage some very set gameplans
Adolf Eeveefag !!0c0m/Re0Ci8
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Sadly I think the mod fucks with some themes these gym leaders had in vanilla. Like Flores back there having a Florges. If they're making fake megas anyway, why not do it for that one instead
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56260998 >>56261296 >>56261420 Thanks bros. Despite this game's hard mode not even being close to the hardest thing we've done in these threads, I think it's the one that's rubbed me the worst because of why and how it's hard. I'm also hoping the game can pull out a decent ending but if it's just "lol Sylvester dies and Mordecai unites the 3 warring families" I'll be thoroughly disappointed.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
A reasonable and surprisingly friendly police officer in this game? What witchery is this?!
>>56261444 It just isn't fun or interesting to engage with, I like difficulty despite my whining, but I can't fucking stand it when the game cheats or uses cheap garbage, this game really reminds me of v13 intense, where the game eventually became so much of a hassle that it just wasn't fun to get through fights, that coupled with the story behind a shit heap as well, does not make things pleasant and kills any way to continue engaging with it, I do admit I had fun using the Paradoxes and ArCHADludon to make some sections far more bearable.
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56261460 Speaking of paradoxes, I was pleasantly surprised by how enjoyable they all were to use.
My overall final verdict is that, aside from the obvious suspects (Flutter, Moon, Tusk) being standout powerhouses, most of them feel very 'appropriate' to any point of the game being hampered by their level-up movepools being really strung out coupled with their high stats being offset by some awkward typings in many cases. If I was forced to rank them for ingame play only, I'd go with...
>S(andwich dog) Miraidon, Koraidon
>A Flutter Mane, Roaring Moon, Brute Bonnet (spore sure is a move)
>B+ Great Tusk, Iron Hands, Iron Valiant, Iron Moth, Sandy Shocks
>B Walking Wake, Iron Treads, Iron Bundle, Iron Thorns, Iron Leaves
>C+ Iron Jugulis
>C Scream Tail, Slither Wing
They're fun to use, especially with alt abilities from their base forms and I'd love to see more games implement them to be obtainable reasonably early because of just how well they scale and I think their biggest selling point is that they don't really plateau (on average) at any specific level range (most mons tend to around 40-50 in terms of movepool) and usually aren't gatekept in viability behind TMs or Tutors.
John VPPoster !znRW0dg4nE
>>56260391 GG
Sounds like Lance "Full Restore" Blackthorn would have a blast in ashenfrostland
>>56261491 >>C+ >Iron Jugulis So Goodra gets a nugen form that actually helps it but Hydreigon gets one that's even more mediocre than the original?
It's unjust
>>56260998 >then you have to go the glownigger office Ah, thanks
Found the other stuff but couldn't figure out how to progress and I'll be damned if I'm talking to everyone a second time. I usually like to talk to every NPC but empire has really tested my patience and by now I'm just holding x and hoping nothing important is being said for most of these random people
FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
>>56261511 >Sounds like Lance "Full Restore" Blackthorn would have a blast in ashenfrostland If he's abusing Multiscale + Power Converter Draco Meteors and using Full Restores to reset his Multiscale regularly, he'll be right at home.
>Iron Jugulis Literally the only thing saving it from being down with Slither Wing and Scream Tail was that it has a Ground Immunity and isn't x4 weak to fairy. It's an outright bad mon without Hurricane and a shaky-but-still-mediocre mon with Hurricane. This mon needs a lot of help. Hydreigon getting Nasty Plot but Jugulis not is still a mystery of the ages.
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>>56261491 I mostly only used Threads and Walking Wake, but they surprisingly didn't feel stupid for the points which I spawned them in, well Threads kinda was at the start, but their movepools being pretty mediocre to bad and their stats surprisingly not being that crazy when stacked against all the bullshit thrown against the player.
Koraidon and Miraidon on Mordecunt's side of things didn't feel all that crazy with the sheer amount of crap going around, they barely pulled through a lot of these fights, which is crazy to say but with the AI cheats and how scummy opposing teams tend to be built, they didn't feel overwhelmingly powerful, strong sure, but not "holy shit they just break the game", I was fucking losing my shit when my super boosted Miraidon didn't even do 50% to Nova's Gardevoir.
I really like Sandy Shocks and Great Tusk, sadly I didn't get to use the ladder and the former I also didn't get much use out of yet.
I also adore Slither Wing, but the poor thing struggles really bad, i really miss Anil Slither Wing which was Dragon/Bug, it was an amazing Dragon Dance sweeper.
I kinda wished we got a fangame that let the player have fun with Paradoxes and focused around them.
Anonymous
>>56261444 >I think it's the one that's rubbed me the worst because of why and how it's hard Checked and yeah. No matter how much you try to draw the distinction and explain your reasoning you'll always get shot down by the niggers who think "moar difficulty = better".
There really should have just been options to turn off the accuracy buff (and not design teams around using it), items, etc. Demice isn't even unreceptive towards the idea, but then again I guess this is the same guy who said he would eventually get around to fixing the flaming fucking travesty that is SS2's difficulty mode handling and...hasn't for nearly a year
>>56261511 >I usually like to talk to every NPC but empire has really tested my patience and by now I'm just holding x Kek
Don't worry, the game knows
There's a bunch of NPCs in later sections that go "y-you're just going to hold X to get through my dialogue aren't you" or "everybody in this city talks too much"
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>>56261575 Maybe one of these days I'll actually post the image I wanted to post
John VPPoster !znRW0dg4nE
Only a true hero can save those kids...
guardian jumpscare is crazy but it got cursed and I landed enough amnesia heals through paralysis+confusion that it just took itself down basically
>>56261521 >Multiscale + Power Converter Draco Meteors and using Full Restores to reset his Multiscale regularly Uh bro? Your single unevolvable easily missable event Cleffa?
From what I gathered the flip-flopping between to characters would probably drive me up a wall more than the CBT f12 simulators, but then again I haven't played anything dem*ce has made yet
>>56261575 It's actually unbearable. I do really try to at least skim the test as quick as possible while tapping X but there are too many random 'Hey have you ever met someone with THIS ideology before???? Let me explain in detail how I'm a libtard:' characters that I just talk and hold X for items and prompts in NPC-dense locations like the museum.
John VPPoster !znRW0dg4nE
>>56261601 >man, ivysaur sure learns a lot of physical moves >check PBS >Venusaur line are physical attackers now There are so many random flip-flops like this
Not that it matters for most of the affected pokemon (uh oh chud did you just try to get a hitmontop???? also you're required to get a hitmontop for a sidequest LOL!!!), but it really feels like octavius just flipped a bunch of coins and decided whether a pokemon would be physical or special based on the result
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>>56261624 It makes the game "unique" like think HOLY SHIT the Nacli line is now special. isn't the crazy, special attack sweepers are now physical wild
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had my first taste of pulse2 with the mega garchomp, but otherwise the battle was pretty easy
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>solaris runs away like a bitch
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>>56261711 good work, I remember that being a pain because the extra bulk puts it just out of reach of one or two hit kills sometimes
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>>56261754 >pls feel bad for the terrorists :( >all they wanted was to purge the region :((((( Orion
I don't know if Empire corrects this at a later time but after beating Sylas and Ashe in the version I'm playing 11.3 they never give you the badge only trigger the switch that says you beat it but don't increase your level cap.
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
another day...
figuring out how to make custom crests work, but being actually retarded in regards to coding doesn't help!
my relationship with rejuvenation is truly an odd one. i wouldn't say i outright hate the game now that the dust has settled. burnout over the endgame might have influenced opinions there? fuck if i know
i respect the sheer amount of effort (not jan) that has gone into this game, and as much of a polished turd as it might be, i just can't bring myself to truly hate it and call it shit
paragon sucks dick though
>>56261754 i will never understand why sometimes reborn wants you to feel bad for the terrorists
is it to kinda backpedal and make characters like taka seem better?
i dont mind situations like "i was in a catch 22 and Had to join" so long as you get that cool moment where they defect or something but
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56261942 have you started the new episode content? empire does a thing where you don't get the effects of the badge until you visit the next area for some reason
>>56262172 >figuring out how to make custom crests work, but being actually retarded in regards to coding doesn't help! depends what you need, but maybe i can help as i've made a few myself. though i doubt i'd be able to help with anything as complicated as the castform crest kek
>is it to kinda backpedal and make characters like taka seem better i think it's moreso that they want to make a morally grey conflict or something because they've heard that morally grey antagonists are more complex and thus = better, when meteor is very obviously not morally grey
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
>>56262202 >maybe i can help as i've made a few myself oh, that'd be perfect!! i've followed guides but nothing seemed to work
i was going to make a smeargle (shocking, i know) crest that raises speed by... 1.3x and causes every other stat to use speed
because i feel like i need something broken as some sort of catharsis, i know i can just copy cryogonal crest's code... i think
>morally grey god. i hate morally grey shit at this point
or well some morally grey things are nice but it never really feels truly grey, it's just forcing "complexity" that's not really there and just makes it look stupid
black and white is fine for a reason
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56262265 yeah, that sounds pretty easy to do. you want to go into Battler_Rejuv and search for where the crests adjust stats, multiply speed by *= 1.3, then set all the other stats to equal speed like so
then it's a matter of actually making the crest in itemtext, you can just copy most of the code from another crest and assigning the SMEARGLECREST (or whatever the internal name is) to smeargle in pbstuff
>god. i hate morally grey shit at this point kek, well, it depends on the story and what's being gone for
trying to shove in morally grey muh complex villains into a story that clearly isn't going for that isn't going to work well, at least
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56262348 oh right and then of course save your changes, type F6 while the game is open in debug mode and then compileAll, blah blah you get it
Smeargle !lLXH.Vq.EQ
>>56262353 and this is the part where i get a migraine
i followed everything to the letter, so i have absolutely no clue why i get this error upon compiling
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56262594 well, just look at the error message. it says there was an issue when compileItems happened, and the SyntaxError and (eval):10039 means you have some kind of syntax error at line 10039.
you probably are missing a comma or have messed up formatting at that exact line in the itemtext file. you can take a picture if you want
also, just looking at my image, in PBStuff, you want that to be :SMEARGLE => :SMEARGCREST, not the other way around lol
i managed to get it to work, so can help further as needed. currently trying to figure out stat boosts since boosting speed does not mean raising the other stats, but i don't know how important that is to you
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
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>>56260401 gg, and good review
>This was easily my longest review yet and I suppose that's because I'm genuinely annoyed that a game with this much potential fumbled the landing on so many aspects of it this hard. Yeah, there's makings for a top tier fangame in there, but fuck, there's a lot of things that hold it back, some more than others kek
>>56262594 I haven't fucked with crests that much, but I'm pretty sure that means there's an extra 'end' or missing comma (I'm guilty of this one a lot kek) somewhere?
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FormerlyAshime !vRZhOalgQo
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56262725 imagine someone's first pokemon game as a kid being virtualization
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>>56262735 That constitutes psychological child abuse or at the very least negligence on the parent's part.
RG !!LsUp+BVDG9i
>>56262725 You VILL experience the amazing map design and you VILL like it
fun fact, one particular really boring night I decided to actually walk the entire thing without speedup kek it took 15 minutes Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>>56262762 what gets me is the ledges so you have to be careful/not use speedup or you'll have to get around again, actual spiteful design
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
you can say it's street smarts but mordecai getting a favor from lucille to fuck over leonardo really goes to show how shitty of a don he is. also is there a correct answer or does it not matter
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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>>56262659 oh by the way smeargle if you see this again i figured this out, was way more simple than i thought kek, LAWDS even has reference code for it. here's GODsmeargle if you need it
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
How do I even progress here? I already spoke with everyone in town as well as everyone on route 2 and nothing is happening.
>>56262803 Not really, both make the case easier.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
>>56262803 i think bribing the judge gives you more health during the trial and tampering with evidence makes some of the questioning easier, but not quite sure
>>56262818 there's a few things on route 2 that require multiple steps iirc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hZNWft7OLWTwN6lRQOATsZuP43-KlJEB3QKgtz4Rq1U/edit#heading=h.nrnw03t7conb if not using the walkthrough
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
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>mordecai: I can always rely on syl to not be there when I need him >has let him live with him twice >doesn't arrest him when he does crime >stops other police from arresting him
Anonymous
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>>56262762 But why though?
Orevald !!uFy26nWSF72
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>Casually survives a Last Respects How does he do it?!
>>56262824 Noted and thanks, I have no idea why the fuck they decided to shove one of the kids in the middle of the tall grass and make him barely visible.
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
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i'll get new loaf
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
actually should i even make this ashen frost or /vp/ plays whatever since it seems like most are already done (with orevald about to finish in a bit)
Bunken !!O3Z0J+BO1kU
>>56262891 eh a whatever thread is probably the way to go
Wagie !!jFV8SjIrokx
