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Buff your bro by making one change to it

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:03:52 No.56366898 View View Reply Original Report

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Zapdos now gets Drizzle. That was easy.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:06:04 No.56366906 Report

Quoted By: >>56366985

>>56366898
Tough Claws and/or gaining Meowscarada's movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:08:38 No.56366911 Report

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>>56366898
Power construct is removed from the game. Perfect Zygarde’s ability is Aura Break

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:10:08 No.56366915 Report

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>>56366898
Wonder Guard.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:18:03 No.56366936 Report

Quoted By: >>56367032 >>56368829

>>56366898
Supreme Overlord as HA

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:22:05 No.56366951 Report

Quoted By: >>56368261

Draining Kiss

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:27:06 No.56366966 Report

Quoted By: >>56367024 >>56369968

Megas are a permanent addition or at least Beedrill's and the other shitmon's are.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:28:35 No.56366973 Report

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>>56366898
poison heal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:31:29 No.56366985 Report

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>>56366906
Give it to both Sandslash forms too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:40:56 No.56367024 Report

Quoted By: >>56369968

>>56366966
but muh small indie company can't handle all that extra work

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 01:43:28 No.56367032 Report

Quoted By: >>56367450 >>56367467 >>56367471

>>56366936
1. He already got his buff
2. There would be no reason to use him over Kingambit, at best he gets into RU or RUBL

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 04:02:40 No.56367444 Report

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>>56366898
Dragon Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 04:03:47 No.56367450 Report

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>>56367032
Supreme Overlord boosts special attacks too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 04:12:12 No.56367467 Report

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>>56367032
>1. He already got his buff
no it didn't
>muh regionul
not a buff

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 04:14:06 No.56367471 Report

Quoted By: >>56367981 >>56370011

>>56367032
I don't want it to be better than Kingambit, I just want it to be useable. Kingambit can only use physical moves but Surpreme Overlord actually increases the damage of any move, which is why Samurott(who can run physical or special) would be a fun pokemon to use this ability. SO Samurott could even have a place in rain, where its the only Water type that gets stronger by more allies lost
>Regionals are buffs
They don't benefit the original especially now that future remakes will dexcut them anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 07:43:36 No.56367981 Report

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>>56367471
Different guy here, while I would agree with you that regional forms are not particularly a "buff" it seems like GF views them as such. It's a shame because I imagine with them they start with the design conceot then work the gameplay design around it. Sometimes it works out well enough like with Muk and Ninetails, other times the pokemon is just fucked over and the regional form is just a side grade like Raticate or Persian. Do those fucked over deserve another chance? Yes, but GF wants to focus on stuff that has no prior variation usually. Unless you just happen to have Charizard or Lucario as a favorite you better pray the buff they make is good, and hopefully permanent.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 08:37:14 No.56368062 Report

Quoted By: >>56368157

>>56366898
Can use light ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 09:32:25 No.56368157 Report

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>>56368062
miraidon 2

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 09:41:16 No.56368172 Report

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In a similar vein of "simple fucking change", Primarina gets Boomburst.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 09:47:35 No.56368179 Report

Quoted By: >>56368184 >>56369680 >>56370707

outside of giving him an evo, mega, or some extremely busted new ability, i don't think anything could save him from being untiered

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 09:50:26 No.56368183 Report

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>>56366898
Swap Azumarill's attack and special attack. It's not much, but seriously, why the fuck did they give it 10 extra SAtk as a buff when it's got an attack-scaled ability?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 09:51:20 No.56368184 Report

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>>56368179
Fuck it, Mega Fearow.
His beak is now twice as long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 10:10:22 No.56368204 Report

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Regigigas: slow start counts the number of turns since the battle start, not since the mon was sent on the field.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 10:27:11 No.56368231 Report

Quoted By: >>56370017

>>56366898
Shift Gear

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 10:45:11 No.56368261 Report

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>>56366951
And the rape "Pokémon" gets even more rape-y. Do it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 10:49:52 No.56368275 Report

Quoted By: >>56368384

>>56366898
Volcarona gets Drought
I know it's unbalanced but Drought always felt more appropriate than Flame Body since there's no actual flames on its body and it's found in a desert.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 11:40:29 No.56368384 Report

Quoted By: >>56368549

>>56368275
Solar Power would be more balanced and is still thematic.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 12:17:59 No.56368454 Report

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Mew can now learn Acupressure.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 13:06:55 No.56368549 Report

Quoted By: >>56368793

>>56368384
Solar power is still quite strong with a sun setter.
Would still prefer Drought. Solar power feels too close to Charizard since both are strong fire types can make full use of it but are 4x weak to Stealth Rock so you rarely do.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 13:36:11 No.56368610 Report

Quoted By: >>56368808 >>56370022

Sing now hits 100% of the time when used by Igglybuff, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff or Scream Tail.

It's literally canon that they can make sure everyone falls asleep eventually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 14:48:37 No.56368793 Report

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>>56368549
Requiring a sun setter makes Solar Power more balanced by default.
With Drought you don't need to build a team reliant on sun as Volcarona can use the sun for itself, enabling more flexiblity. Not to mention you get boosted Fire STAB for free coming from the same special attack as fuckin Chi-Yu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 14:49:57 No.56368800 Report

Quoted By: >>56368842

>>56366898
Inferior to static Zapdos, now it lost all its pressure as a defensive pivot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 14:53:40 No.56368808 Report

Quoted By: >>56368983

>>56368610
Wouldn't even be Broken since Wigglytuff is Slow.
Scream Tail on the other hand...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 15:02:53 No.56368829 Report

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>>56366936
It would be two instead, but I think I'd much rather see Intimidate + Fake Out. Slightly worse incin, but it doesn't care about being intimidated itself and threatens incin easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 15:10:13 No.56368842 Report

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>>56368800
Yeah but it's way better in VGC now and supplants Pelipper as the premiere rain setter in the formats it's allowed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 16:01:48 No.56368983 Report

Quoted By: >>56369351

>>56368808
>Wouldn't even be Broken since Wigglytuff is Slow.
I'm aware, I don't need it to be broken. However, it is a serious threat: the opponent cannot switch without coming into a guaranteed SLP, and very few mons can ever OHKO Wigglytuff. Then she can recover health with Rest, possibly also heal a teammate if you use Wish, or setup something like screens. It can run literally any other special attacking move so you never know which one it will be, can fuck up Steels if it decides to go Fire Blast and Tera Fire.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 16:46:28 No.56369124 Report

Quoted By: >>56369334

Plus 50 Special.
> Special Attack or Special Defense
Special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 17:48:48 No.56369334 Report

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>>56369124
Based gen 1 chad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 17:54:00 No.56369351 Report

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>>56368983
Nice to see.

But Scream Tail tho...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 19:25:16 No.56369680 Report

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>>56368179
Poor Fearow, even pokeporn doesn't even touch them outside of like, 3 images

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 19:27:09 No.56369689 Report

Quoted By: >>56369745 >>56369758 >>56370232

Honestly, I have no idea, he has so many flaws... still, I love this birb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 19:45:07 No.56369745 Report

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>>56369689
Old Long Reach:
>Contact moves don't make contact.
New Long Reach:
>Contact moves don't make contact. Moves that already don't make contact(Sprit Shackle, Leaf Storm, Shadow Ball, etc) are boosted by 20%.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 19:48:17 No.56369758 Report

Quoted By: >>56369777 >>56370034

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 19:53:47 No.56369777 Report

Quoted By: >>56369867

>>56369758
That unironically would be so good, thank you anon!

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 19:54:32 No.56369780 Report

Quoted By: >>56369821

>>56366898
becomes a pseudo-legendary with optimized bulky base stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 20:01:42 No.56369798 Report

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>>56366898
+100 special attack for starmie

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 20:06:56 No.56369821 Report

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>>56369780

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 20:15:49 No.56369867 Report

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>>56369777
Surprised it didn't work that way. An archer-based ability should've easily been inverted Tough Claws but isn't for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 20:35:09 No.56369968 Report

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>>56366966
>>56367024
They could do this using the Tyrogue to sHitmon evolution mechanics or just simplified to EVs. Imagine the playground rumors of "kill 120+ Rattata and Psyduck before evolving for a special Charizard" (Y) and there's a kid that fought Shinx instead of Rattata that got Charizard (X). Normal forms without hitting the specific thresholds (in this example, 120 EVs in Speed and Atk/SA). Single stages get key items or NPCs that swap forms like a Gene Reshaper for a Mewtwo or a special Machamp/Machop duo that trains Kangaskhan and its baby to give it Parental Bond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 20:44:39 No.56370011 Report

Quoted By: >>56370225

>>56367471
SHell Armor needs a buff. Make it so it IGNORES Att/Sp Att/crit boosts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 20:45:39 No.56370017 Report

Quoted By: >>56370850

>>56368231
Aggron just needs to loose its rock type when evolving. That already would be a huge buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 20:47:23 No.56370022 Report

Quoted By: >>56372029

>>56368610
Better - make any sound move has always chance to hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 20:49:11 No.56370034 Report

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>>56369758
Better: Contact moves don't make contact.
Spirit Shackle gets priority
It's an archer it should shoot first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 21:37:44 No.56370225 Report

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>>56370011
Shell armor is not a bad ability but it's on all the wrong pokemon except for mega slowbro and it was the only one who was good because of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 21:39:44 No.56370232 Report

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>>56369689
Take 40 out of special attack and put 30 into speed and 10 into attack
There i solved it

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 21:39:58 No.56370234 Report

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Ice/Electric

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 22:10:07 No.56370340 Report

Quoted By: >>56370612 >>56370673

>>56366898
Kowtow Cleave and Cross Poison and Psycho Cut

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 23:14:12 No.56370612 Report

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>>56370340
It has no room for Kowtow.
>Ceasless Edge sets spikes
>Knock Off removes items
>Night Slash is better on a crit build(doesn't need scope lens for Focus Energy gimmick)

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 23:29:55 No.56370673 Report

Quoted By: >>56370710 >>56370903

>>56370340
Kowtow Cleave is one of those signature moves that doesn't really make sense going to anything else just on the basis of what it's supposed to represent. Like, stuff like Throat Chop, Spiky Shield, Mat Block, Mystical Fire, etc. are thematically tied to their original mons but are still generic enough to go to anything else that lands in the same ballpark. In what situation would a Pokemon bowing their head while slashing not look awkward unless their head also WAS the blade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 23:35:59 No.56370707 Report

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>>56368179
dragon dance or swords dance + close combat + 20 base speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 23:36:37 No.56370710 Report

Quoted By: >>56370725 >>56370903

>>56370673
>In what situation would a Pokemon bowing their head while slashing not look awkward unless their head also WAS the blade?
I mean, samurott has a giant spike on his head, frankly it makes more sense to fight with that than his actual blades

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 23:40:04 No.56370725 Report

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>>56370710
You know what, I kinda blanked on the fact that the spike would probably be what was used. I can see it.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 23:58:01 No.56370798 Report

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>>56366898
>Hypno
No Guard

Benefits Hypnosis, Focus Blast and Poison Gas all at once.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Aug 2024 23:59:51 No.56370802 Report

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>>56366898
water absorb and/or first impression

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Anonymous Tue 27 Aug 2024 00:03:39 No.56370813 Report

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>Disguise

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk Tue 27 Aug 2024 00:10:06 No.56370845 Report

Quoted By: >>56370884

Buff Battle Armor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Aug 2024 00:11:09 No.56370850 Report

Quoted By: >>56371880

>>56370017
Do Aron and Lairon even care about being rock-type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Aug 2024 00:20:57 No.56370884 Report

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>>56370845
The JP name references a warrior's helmet, to pick one:

>Normal moves become Fighting and gain +20% power
>Boosts the power of Fighting and Steel moves by +20%
>Boosts critical hit rate by 1 stage
>Boosts Atk by 1 stage whenever the foe switches out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Aug 2024 00:30:23 No.56370903 Report

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>>56370673
Thematically, it’s very fitting. Body-wise, I always imagined that it holds it swords out together in front of its face while bowing its head, although >>56370710 might make more sense

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Anonymous Tue 27 Aug 2024 00:32:34 No.56370911 Report

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>>56366898
Levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Aug 2024 06:49:25 No.56371880 Report

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>>56370850
STAB head smash is nice

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Anonymous Tue 27 Aug 2024 08:05:44 No.56372029 Report

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>>56370022
Wigglytuff's sound moves are all 100 accuracy aside from Sing. If anything you should boost the BP or do something retarded like
>when using a sound-based move, there is a 30% chance to inflict Sleep

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Anonymous Tue 27 Aug 2024 08:11:56 No.56372041 Report

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Ditch the Bug type. Mono Ghost.

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