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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 08:36:32 No.56431864 View View Reply Original Report

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Masuda wasn't that bad desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 08:57:25 No.56431882 Report

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>>56431864
tajiri and morimoto... i kneel....
masuda literally ruined the franchise with his nu-pokemon philosophies. i actually hope that faggot will rot in hell, fucking cunt turned pokemon from an rpg series to le ebin battle simulator, while removing comfy features from previous titles (no day-night cycle, no pokemon following you around etc.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 09:00:38 No.56431886 Report

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>>56431864
The moral of the story is to keep Ohmori the hell away from Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 09:01:35 No.56431888 Report

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>>56431882
Yawnfag schizo bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 09:05:30 No.56431900 Report

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Masuda was gold silver crystal too. Tajiri already tuned out after the first game and left it to him. In general Masuda was why the first game ever managed to be finished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 10:30:36 No.56432038 Report

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>>56431864
people praise morimoto and bash masuda but masuda did 99% of the work.
it's like if I built an entire house, then someone came and decorated it, and you gave them all the credit and bashed me because the house I built didn't look as nice until it got decorated.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 10:38:26 No.56432050 Report

Quoted By: >>56432276

Morimoto cannot make a bad game it seems

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 10:40:20 No.56432056 Report

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>>56431882
Didn't Mr Iwata have to fix Tajiri's games because they were bloated and broken to shit though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 12:35:21 No.56432220 Report

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>>56432056
Tajiri was limited by the hardware of the gameboy. He had great ideas and understood what made a game fun for kids with a layer of interactivity. Masuda on the other hand is a complete hack that changes way too much, to the detriment of the games. Seriously, the only games he directed that didn't get backlash were the lets go games, and that was because they weren't mainline games.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 12:45:37 No.56432240 Report

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>>56432220
Ruby/Sapphire?
Black/White?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 12:58:43 No.56432267 Report

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>>56432240
Games that are incredibly scuffed in the best case and artistically exclusionary, and those are arguably the ones with the most backlash. On the other hand, things like DP or XY changed over time, at first they were well received but are more seen as bad and mediocre respectively as time has gone on. I think the only games he's responsible for that aren't on average disliked are GSC, and he only took over development for those on the latter half of GS to get them released in a reasonable time-frame, which is why he gets co-director credit. Even then a lot of the absolutely dogshit takes people have about GS are arguably his fault (weird balance choices and Pokemon distribution come to mind since his target release date didn't let them actually balance the game properly).

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:02:14 No.56432276 Report

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>>56432050
yeah because he doesn’t make anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:03:55 No.56432281 Report

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>>56432220
>Masuda on the other hand is a complete hack that changes way too much, to the detriment of the games

Unfortunately the newer people here weren't around during the bullshit Masuda was pushing in the generation of ORAS followed by the downward spiral that followed with SM. It was one excuse after another and ultimately it became common practice to just expect disappointment at that point with every new game shit out.

This is why I wasn't surprised the dexcut happened and defenders up till that point have nobody to blame but themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:04:11 No.56432282 Report

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>>56432220
None of Masuda’s games have gotten backlash. Your brain has been rotted by genwar shitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:04:35 No.56432284 Report

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>>56432240
>Black and white didn’t receive backlash
Anon I…

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:08:15 No.56432298 Report

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>>56432284
A few people complaining online != backlash.

Sword and Shield was the first Pokemon game to have actual backlash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:10:30 No.56432306 Report

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>>56431864
>tajiri
Overrated but still good
>masuda
Initially great, fell off hard XY-onwards
>morimoto
Based as fuck
>kawachimaru
Did the best he could with what he had
>unno
Also based
>ohmori
Complete 50/50, good at introducing memorable story characters but SwSh is too big a shitstain to gloss over and SV's glitches are infamous
>iwao
Another 50/50 but because USUM completely destroyed Alola's storyline and Legends is graphically ugly as sin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:10:33 No.56432308 Report

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>>56432298
I think the sales of Black and White are indicative of some sort of backlash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:15:54 No.56432316 Report

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>>56432308
Only because Genwunners (who weren't even the target audience) threw a temper tantrum about the fact that they couldn't use Pikachu and CHARIZARD on their teams for the 8th time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:15:59 No.56432318 Report

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>>56432308
bw/2 barely sold a million less units than dpt on a dead console. compare that to the 15 million unit drop-off between gen 1 and 2, and gen 3 selling even less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:17:39 No.56432323 Report

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>>56432306
>Initially great, fell off hard XY-onwards
XY is his best game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:18:39 No.56432327 Report

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>>56432316
>Only because backlash

Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 13:48:45 No.56432410 Report

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>>56432327
see>>56432318

>>56432323
>(bottom tier games of the series) is his best game
nice one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 14:55:35 No.56432593 Report

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>>56432282
>none of masuda's games have gotten backlash
You weren't there when ruby/sapphire came out
You weren't there when black/white came out
You weren't there when x/y came out
Not my fault you're a newfag that started playing during gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 14:59:30 No.56432603 Report

Quoted By: >>56433081

>>56432593
None of those games had backlash

Autists online nitpicking a few problems isn’t backlash and it happens with literally every game that exists. Sword and Shield was the first game with legitimate backlash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 15:09:13 No.56432637 Report

Quoted By: >>56432648 >>56433096

>>56431864
>wasn't that bad
>produced X and Y some of the worst games after SwSh and SV

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 15:10:05 No.56432643 Report

Quoted By: >>56433264

>>56431882
Tajiri ran out of ideas by gen 2.
>Johto schizobabble
Never mind, fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 15:11:17 No.56432648 Report

Quoted By: >>56432653

>>56432637
>XY was le bad!
>”why?”
>because…um….kanto pokemon show up in it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 15:12:10 No.56432653 Report

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>>56432648
>said no one ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 15:14:21 No.56432660 Report

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There are no bad Pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:07:13 No.56433081 Report

Quoted By: >>56433089 >>56434074

>>56432603
People online and irl (anecdotal) hated that previous gen pokemon weren't available in gen 3 and gen 5. Gen 6 was hyped but everyone laughed at the soulless 3d models. Your revisionism won't work because everything's documented, literally go to any gamefaqs thread from when these games came out.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:08:37 No.56433089 Report

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>>56433081
>Gen 6 was hyped but everyone laughed at the soulless 3d models
never happened
your dexit newfaggotry is showing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:09:28 No.56433096 Report

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>>56432637
>SV was le bad!
>”why?”
>because…um….framerate now matters to me!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:46:18 No.56433248 Report

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>>56432220
Cook story but didn't really answer the question

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:48:41 No.56433257 Report

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>>56431882
Tajiri killed Pokemania.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:49:44 No.56433264 Report

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>>56432643
>Johto schizobabble
redundant

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:50:30 No.56433267 Report

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>>56432276
Think before you speak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:51:28 No.56433273 Report

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>>56432318
>compare that to the 15 million unit drop-off between gen 1 and 2, and gen 3 selling even less.
both were the result of Gen 2 being a disappointment

less people gave it a chance and those who did were turned off fom the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:52:59 No.56433283 Report

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>>56433267
>RS but even more retarded plot and worse dex.
Whoa

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:56:48 No.56433299 Report

Quoted By: >>56433302 >>56433314 >>56433326

>Make the best game.
>Don't elaborate.
>Leave forever.
What the fuck was his problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 17:57:48 No.56433302 Report

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>>56433299
masuda doesn't like when people fuck with DP for some reason; look at how he oversaw BDSP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 18:00:17 No.56433314 Report

Quoted By: >>56433329

>>56433299
make what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 18:02:50 No.56433326 Report

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>>56433299
He just knew nobody could come even close to his greatness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 18:03:57 No.56433329 Report

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>>56433314
Masuda's magnum opus a realization.
> I was the one that had to make those concepts a realization in a Pokemon game -- both visually and implementing certain tricks into the gameplay to give the player a sense of bipolarity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:05:30 No.56433576 Report

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>>56433089
Yes it absolutely did. Everyone pointed out shortcomings of 3D and kinda expected it to improve, only to see it never did for many years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:10:48 No.56433605 Report

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>>56433576
> Everyone pointed out shortcomings of 3D
There are no “shortcomings” that didn’t already exist with sprites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:12:30 No.56433613 Report

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>>56431864
Omfg Ohmori has directed 0 games that I genuinely like. Sun/Moon had potential though

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:13:42 No.56433616 Report

Quoted By: >>56433677 >>56434011 >>56434074

>>56433576
They have improved greatly thoughever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:26:49 No.56433677 Report

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>>56433616
>SV
Sure, I'll conceded SV only. PLA a little.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:27:50 No.56433685 Report

Quoted By: >>56433697

>>56433605
Yes there absolutely are. There were many new issues people talked about with 3D specifically that didn't apply to the sprites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:30:34 No.56433697 Report

Quoted By: >>56433739

>>56433685
Nope. Find better arguments, sagefag.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:33:13 No.56433704 Report

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>>56431864
>Tajiri
Ideal
>Masuda
Good ideas, middling execution
>Morimoto/Kawachimaru/Unno
Fine games but mostly just built on what was there
>Ohmori
Black list this man from the industry immediately
>Iwao
Mixed bag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:44:09 No.56433739 Report

Quoted By: >>56433749

>>56433697
>Nope
Yep. Why are you seething about boogeymen? Can you not handle civil discourse>

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:46:57 No.56433748 Report

Quoted By: >>56433761

>>56431864
These 3 should legit take over the franchise and Ohmori should get fuckin' fired

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:47:07 No.56433749 Report

Quoted By: >>56433842

>>56433739
you’re not fooling anyone bro

must be lonely being the only one seething over kalos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:49:02 No.56433761 Report

Quoted By: >>56433788 >>56434029

>>56433748
>3 people who’ve never made a game should take over the franchise
no thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:54:07 No.56433788 Report

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>>56433761
>game is already made
>come to the meeting room once and say just switch up some encounters and make a battle frontier copy there
>leave
damn making games is easy as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 19:54:20 No.56433791 Report

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>>56431864
Tajiri is the GOAT
Masuda plays it extremely safe but has consistent results
Ohmori takes more risks with the story instead of just copying the same formula each game; has higher highs than Masuda but also lower lows
Iwao is the best at making good singleplayer gameplay

The rest are interchangeable/may as well not exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:06:14 No.56433842 Report

Quoted By: >>56433859 >>56433861

>>56433749
>seething
Saying "it isn't perfect" isn't seething. You crying about boogeymen for no reason is seething.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:10:27 No.56433859 Report

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>>56433842
>Saying "it isn't perfect" isn't seething.
No, but perpetually obsessing over it while spamming the same copy/pasted low quality debunked arguments every single day in multiple threads is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:10:52 No.56433861 Report

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>>56433842
Went from being laughed at and soulless to not perfect real quick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:38:49 No.56433984 Report

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>>56431864
>kanto but on the beach
>kanto but a remake
>kanto but in the mountains
>kanto but in new york
>kanto but in france
>kanto but a lazier remake
>kanto but in the mountains but a remake that is lazier than the last kanto remake
he sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:43:38 No.56434011 Report

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>>56433616
>Looks like a laser beam instead of water.
Bad animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:47:40 No.56434029 Report

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>>56433761
Platinum and BW2 are vastly different enough from their base versions. Stop being stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:48:21 No.56434033 Report

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>>56434029
>Platinum and BW2 are vastly different
bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:51:35 No.56434046 Report

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>>56434029
they're romhacks buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:53:29 No.56434055 Report

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>>56434029
platinum ruins the comfy atmosphere of sinnoh with some gay ass edgy fanfic romhack tier distortion world

bw2 actively works against masuda's magnum opus (Black and White) by infesting the region with KANTOOOOOOOOO shitmons

horrible examples

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:55:29 No.56434063 Report

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>>56434029
Platinum is more different than other third version like Yellow, Crystal and even Emerald, but it's not vastly different. The majority of the game is still essentially the same as DP. BW2 is the third version that's the most different. But it also didn't make the original BW obsolete like Platinum made DP obsolete and Emerald made RS obsolete.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 20:56:48 No.56434074 Report

Quoted By: >>56434094

>>56433081
>gen 3 and gen 5
I mean at least 5 had a national dex, 3 didn't even have that.

>>56433616
Took them 4 generations to do so, but I'm glad that they have. Unfortunately I've been too hurt to invest into the new generations...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2024 21:01:49 No.56434094 Report

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>>56434074
>Took them 4 generations to do so,
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