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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 20:05:38 No.56441772 View View Reply Original Report

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why did they remake the first movie but make it look cheaper and not really change much

inb4 nostalgia inb4 money

lets pretend this was an artistic choice; what were they thinking?

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 20:08:35 No.56441788 Report

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>>56441772
They look like ayy lmaos

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 20:12:20 No.56441804 Report

Quoted By: >>56441875

Oh no no no no hahahahahahahahah

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 20:18:11 No.56441827 Report

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>>56441772
This baffles me every time I think about it OP, so much effort went into something that was doomed to be a lesser product than the original which is both widely available and an easy first watch today. It's not even a matter of execution - which wasn't great but not complete dogwater either - it's just a dumb fucking thing no one wants. I can only assume it was meant to "re-introduce" an old piece of Pokemon media to younger generations but it's not like they were planning to make more media with the OG gang anyway so why bother trying to spark new interest in their adventures?

This could have just been some celebtratory theatrical re-release of the original movie and some new merch. Literally the only good thing to come out of it was the cool clone & armored Mewtwo Pokemon Go event and I wasn't even playing it at the time so I missed out on those anyway. A whole fucking CG movie added nothing and only took away some small shit like the Minnesota vikings joke; I'm not even mad, I just sincerely don't understand the effort.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 20:30:25 No.56441875 Report

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>>56441804
>it's the bottle mouth from wetting dolls
What did they mean by this?

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 20:47:36 No.56441942 Report

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>>56441772
Jesus Christ, I forgot about this vile shit. I hope it was a commercial failure. It looks so bad it legit makes my skin crawl.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 20:57:18 No.56441977 Report

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>>56441772
I saw this movie recently and it was pretty 1:1, just kinda ugly and dark with poor lighting everywhere for some reason. There were some incredibly minor changes like introducing moves used in later gens. I'm genuinely surprised that they were able to bring back so many of the same voice actors for the side characters. It really was just the ugly CGI, if it just looked better I think people would've been fine with this.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 21:01:45 No.56441993 Report

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>>56441942
It very clearly was, or the very least didn't do anywhere near as well as TPCi hoped it would.
The Pokemon movies had been flopping for 10 years at that point, and remaking the First movie was their desperation play, banking on nostalgia to give it a free ride.
Considering there's only ONE other Pokemon movie after this with the whole franchise as movies being dead in the water, it didn't work and I doubt we'll see another Pokemon anime movie for years, if ever again.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 21:09:05 No.56442013 Report

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Looking into it, the company that did the CG is the same company that did the Pac-Man Ghostly Adventures show
That explains a few things

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 22:35:29 No.56442263 Report

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>>56441772
Same reason Disney remakes all of their movies but worse, to appeal to the modern retard that will dismiss the originals because they're old.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 23:20:32 No.56442457 Report

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>>56441993
So they make a shitty remake of the first movie and instead of thinking "our inferior
version of a beloved product flopped, hmm, maybe we shouldnt have burnt money onto a lesser remake of the original product." they think "our inferior version of a beloved project flopped, hmm, maybe people dont want good original moviese anymore, so we wont make pokemon movies ever again!"?

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 23:47:48 No.56442525 Report

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>>56441772

I think they figured they could get away with it because Disney did. They forgot Mewtwo strikes back was already a cheaply made, critically panned stupid kid movie back in the 90s.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 02:09:50 No.56442928 Report

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>>56442525
Post-Walt Disney's Disney has been a disaster for the entertainment world

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 04:19:33 No.56443325 Report

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>>56441772
>lets pretend this was an artistic choice; what were they thinking?
They've explained this. It was director Kunihiko Yuyama's final Pokemon movie, and he mentioned in interviews that he considers Mewtwo Strikes Back the single best part of the Pokemon movie, so he wanted the current generation of kids to get to experience it as well.

Why he went with a fucking 3DCG remake of all things is completely baffling to me, but beyond that it felt like a pretty sincere desire to want to share his personal favorite story with others.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 04:21:34 No.56443332 Report

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>>56441772
>lets pretend this was an artistic choice; what were they thinking?
They've explained this. It was director Kunihiko Yuyama's final Pokemon movie, and he mentioned in interviews that he considers Mewtwo Strikes Back the single best part of the Pokemon anime, so he wanted the current generation of kids to get to experience it as well.

Why he went with a fucking 3DCG remake of all things is completely baffling to me, but beyond that it felt like a pretty sincere desire to want to share his personal favorite story with others.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 09:17:32 No.56443960 Report

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>>56443332
Why didn't he include the Aitwo background story into the movie? Did he think that this would have made the movie too long?
Does he dislike the Aitwo story?
I've heard that the Aitwo stort wasn't originally part of the original japanese release of the movie. Maybe it was a retcon?
That would explain why the scientists wiped out Mewtwo's story at the end of that background story.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 09:26:42 No.56443970 Report

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>>56441772
"Robot Chicken was popular so let's do that" emphasis on "was"

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 09:28:20 No.56443973 Report

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>>56441993
I feel like movies kinda got worse not because people got tired of them or anything but because they stopped feeling like events and started feeling like longer episodes starring a legendary

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 09:31:31 No.56443976 Report

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>>56443973
What do you think about the Detective Conan, the One Piece movies?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 09:40:18 No.56443989 Report

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>>56443976
don't watch them

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 15:08:06 No.56444544 Report

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>>56443973
none of the movies are fantastic by the standards of film, or even by the low bar set by anime movies
i randomly tried to watch the movie with diancie in about a year ago and had to stop 10 minutes in because of how bad and boring it was; i genuinely think the quality was trending towards getting worse as time went on, although ill admit ive not done the proper research required to make that claim

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 15:18:02 No.56444589 Report

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>>56444544
I'd argue Power of Us is probably the best Pokemon movie, and probably stands highest as a legitmately good movie
But that's not saying much

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 15:30:17 No.56444628 Report

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>>56441772
Japan is way behind the West in terms of 3D movies. The art design is so generic and soulless that it's embarrassing how they could approve it. They just didn't care about anything, they had no ambition at all, it looks like they made a remake of this movie out of obligation and to fulfill some contract.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 15:32:27 No.56444634 Report

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>>56444628
TRUTHNUKE

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 15:34:59 No.56444642 Report

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>>56444589
Well you are wrong. The best movies were the first 2 then Deoxys and the Gen 4 movies (except for the Zoroark). Everything else was progressively mediocre.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 16:00:49 No.56444709 Report

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>>56444642
>Not counting movie 3
>Thinking the Deoxys movie is good
>Thinking the Shaymin movie good
You really think this taste is good?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 16:05:40 No.56444727 Report

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>>56444628
>>56444634
First of all, Lupin the First came the same year, don't use the "all anime CG is bad" line. This is just the usual TPCi laziness

Secondly, it wasn't even animated in Japan, it was done by Sprite Animation Studios, which is an American studio (albeit one owned by Japanese business men), who's biggest claim to fame before this was the Pac-Man show

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 16:08:21 No.56444734 Report

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>>56441772
Looks like a soulless husk like everything else these days

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 16:08:56 No.56444735 Report

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>>56443960
>I've heard that the Aitwo stort wasn't originally part of the original japanese release of the movie. Maybe it was a retcon?
Yes, it was added to the "directors' cut" about a year later. The English dub was based on this cut, which is why it includes the first few minutes of that story (the stuff with the researchers searching for Mew in the jungle) despite cutting most of it. It was based on a movie tie-in radio drama.

So yeah, most likely it was just skipped because it was never part of the original experience, and it's also kind of a pointless addition to the story since obviously nothing in it is ever referenced in any way in the material that was written long before.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 16:29:52 No.56444783 Report

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>>56441772
>inb4 nostalgia inb4 money
Those are literally the only reasons why though.
>lets pretend this was an artistic choice; what were they thinking?
They were thinking about appealing to the retard normalfags that also drop money to see the live action Disney garbage movies. Normalfags LOVE when visuals are needlessly detailed to TCPI wanted a piece of the pie by making Pokemon: HD for the Pixar/Disney audience. Seriously, look at it for 4 seconds and tell me anyone with any artistic integrity had anything to do with it, from the top to the bottom it the whole thing just bleeds "corporate".

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Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 22:47:03 No.56446243 Report

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>>56441772
I have the theory that it was an experiment to see how the public react to a CGI Pokemon movie because they wanted to make the entire Pokemon anime CGI. But it failed for them.

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