Server IP: 198.55.127.153:25565
Modpack:
https://mega.nz/file/OAMCmADD#vVl1Np7EKztsLiDzJ6mwdux6iDuBD5sL1TgFCW4Qn_4 (REQUIRES JAVA 21 SPECIFICALLY, THAT'S WHAT SHOWDOWN NEEDS)
also turn off the java path's manual override because the host set the instance to override to his specific java 21 path but didn't unset the manual override beforehand
and also go into edit version and change the LWJGL version to 3.3.1 if it's not launching even after loading java 21
Server Rules: Don't be a nigger (don't steal, grief, kill, fuck with lootr chests, cheat, etc)
Also golden hoe claiming is on but limited to initially 500 blocks and does require renewing claims via activity so we don't have jackasses permanently rendering land unusable via claiming something and never using it
The server host's tripcode is !!wshrwuJLXPB, set your filters to highlight posts with that tripcode so you can know who he is, I'm not the host
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>>57044317 Is Rhyperior in?
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do not strip logs you'll crash
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>Winter gen is actually real
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>>57044317 Oh yeah, by the by, don't forget to add the minimap resourcepack
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>>57044317 >/vp/obblemon (formerly /vp/ixelmon) did you consult with the clique before renaming it? /vp/ixelmon is a fucking trademark you don't get to change it like that
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>>57044737 fuck the clique
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i just crashed
>>57044869 kys
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>>57044737 Ask the summer server, I guess.
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>>57044737 >wahhh wahhhh wahhh Anonymous
>>57044317 why not pixelmon?
it's finished
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>>57045131 have you not played on the 2023 server
that was the last pixelmon server for a good reason
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>>57045131 Pixelmon is soulless.
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Snowpeak... home...
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Note for Lopbunny: right clicking with any axe makes you crash
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Snowpeak is located at -519x -123z for those who want to visit. There is a cobble tunnel at the base of the mountain that leads up to the town for those who don't want to climb the entire mountain to get there.
Anonymous
Another note for Lopunny
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>>57045412 hostile spawns keep it interesting ngl
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>>57045516 Interesting for 5 minutes until 2 baby zombies jump up my ass while building at night
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Can i get an explanation for retards on how to set this up? I wanna join, but other than the /vp/obble server from May i've never played modded MC so i have no clue how to set it up unfortunately
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
Aight so the list of issues as I know them>right clicking axes crashes you >my lag >some random chests don't get lootrd >minor generation errors >tp doesn't work
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57045855 oh yeah a couple more to remember
>>all wild pokemon are 0 IV yeah I heard this snapshot may have the bug. I'll update it to a later one
>>gimmighoul chests and stuff don't work with lootr yeah mod has been notified and there will be fixes hopefully. in the meantime I will periodically regenerate some of the affected ruins so don't build too close to them.
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>>57045849 >Download Prism Launcher (Minecraft launcher for easily downloading various old versions or modded versions >Download link in the OP >Open Prism Launcher, right click > Create Instance > Import >Select the file from OP >Download Java 21 then follow the stuff in the OP If you played the server in May then it's essentially doing the same stuff with some small changes here and there to play
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>>57045904 >also turn off the java path's manual override because the host set the instance to override to his specific java 21 path but didn't unset the manual override beforehand How do you do this? I can't find anything about a manual override in prism launcher
Also I get this error when i try to launch the game:
https://files.catbox.moe/lqtxxs.txt Anonymous
>>57045963 Right-click the instance, click edit, then the settings tab in the new window, and set the java installation to version 21
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>>57045993 When i click auto-detect i see 2 instances of java 21.0.3 and 2 instances of java 21.0.5, but none of them seem to work, am i in the wrong menu, or am i doing something else wrong? Am i retarded? And i feel i should also ask because OP post doesn't mention it, what minecraft version is this server running on?
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have missing mon been modded in or is this server bitchmade
Anonymous
why the fuck is the map so big?
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>>57046644 dick measuring competition
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TURN OFF HOSTILE MOB SPAWNS WHILE I AM ASKING NICELY
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>>57045904 Does it work for MultiMC too?
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>>57044317 What version of Minecrap is this? 1.2whatever
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>>57046734 just because it's shit and has zero worthwhile purpose doesn't mean it should be kept
Anonymous
Is this just the vanilla cobblemon dex?
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the turtle dupe glitch
>>57047306 for now but the host did say he wanted to run outbreak events where custom mons/forms would be introduced
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>>57046790 It should work the exact same way on MultiMC too since the two programs are similar to one another
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>>57046790 yeah im running it on multimc right now
just double check your instance's java installation tab
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Torterraryans this is our gen
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some suggestions:
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i feel like i've had an extremely productive first day on the server>fully evolved my starter into a cherry blossom torterra, and fixed its nature problem >captured multiple rather decent wild pokemon, including a golem, crabominable, heracross, marowak, staravia, torkoal, and sandslash >caught a bunch of decent enough pokemon to EV train later >built a nice enough house for myself that also has a fishing pond and herb/berry/vegetable garden in the basement >did a bunch of exploring (about a dozen km2 i think) and mining and now have a few stacks of assorted minerals, and also 187+ assorted pokeballs on hand
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
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>>57047698 I definitely wanna do the gym bad thing but if you want a true, unfakeable certificate, then you should use written books. write down the details of the win, copy the original, and give copy to victorious challenger. Then you can maintain a sign of victors and stuff
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
btw I know there's like, loads of fixes to do but how does the server feel? like is it good? can I improve things in ways that aren't errors or bugs?
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>>57047757 Yeah snowpeak and dirtroit are the first two proper towns (which have multiple residents, houses, communal areas, etc)
Of course since I'm cool I'm part of Snowpeak and I'm also the owner of the torterra in
>>57047745 and I've been enjoying the server a lot, only major complaint is how mob spawns are way too often and annoying to deal with, especially if you're battling at night/in a dark area where you have to wait a while for turns to finish before you can move around and deal with mobs
Turn hostile mob spawnrate to like a third of what it currently is and you'll get less complaints about hostile mobs
also you should probably check biome spawn rates for pokemon; so far I've only encountered three ice types in an entire day of playing when at Snowpeak
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>>57047757 >>57047774 oh yeah also at least 2 people are making some town in the cherry blossom biome somewhere between dirtroit and snowpeak
would be kino if at some point we get a route/town map made by people in these threads
i'd make it if I had a flymon to easily fill out the map in the first place
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
I'm not gonna disable or nerf regular hostile mobs because we are extremely easy mode already>easy mode >no pvp (yet) >keep Inventory >food directly heals >people want the drops >mitigated once towns and routes are made
Anonymous
Is the server down right now or something
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57047825 ahh yeah shoulda announced on thread. See the post with the critical issues? They're being fixed.
Anonymous
>>57047837 Cool no worries, says I wasn't whitelisted and thought it was a me issue. GL updating stuff, hope it goes smoothly.
Anonymous
have you considered adding the challenge commands addon? its pretty convenient imo
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>>57047839 thanks! yeah I'm doing some things on the server and its just easier to whitelist. this isn't a whitelisted server so when whitelist is up that's gonna mean maintenance. Should be back up within a few hours I felt US Monday morning would be low activity for the most part
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57047845 I hadn't but if people have mod and plugin suggestions now it the time to mention them. Give me a link.
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>>57047819 just make the mobs spawn less often so they're not a constant chore to deal with
a problem with them (besides getting attacked when you can't react because you're in a battle) is that the server's low tickrate makes them take longer to kill, so maybe halve the spawnrate but increase the drops per mob to compensate should be considered; you'll satisfy people who need their drops and people who don't like fighting them
and yeah I guess iron armor does give players the buffer to survive rats long enough to take a break from a battle or other activity to clean out the rats but they're still kinda annoying due to knockback
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57047849 I'll leave a book on the server for people to cast their opinion. I'll provide an incentive, one ability capsule and one ability patch for anyone who puts their opinion down with their name.
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>>57047848 mcmmo could be fun to try out; basically you get slight improvements to performing activities over time as you do them and gain experience with them kinda like MMORPGs
and you also get to activate abilities if you're at a high enough level with the related skill by holding the relevant item and shift right clicking then performing an action
like getting a burst of mining speed with a pickaxe and super breaker, or chopping down one or more trees instantly with tree feller and an axe
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EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57047890 I intend to trickle in this content but atm since we're running snapshot a lot of addons just aren't ready.
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>>57047854 my vote will be for lowering spawn rates but multiplying mob item drop amounts (for stackable items) or drop chance (for non-stackable items) by whatever the spawnrate was divided by to make them less annoying while keeping item availability the same
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snowpeak if she real
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>>57047917 Forgot to write a comment oops lol
Adds a Cog block that makes vertical redstone a lot easier, as well as a myriad of decorative and functional blocks designed to fit in with vanilla.
Anonymous
>>57047848 I know it's a mod and not a plugin but waystones would be nice if we're not going to enable teleport plugins or rideable pokemon.
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/waystones Anonymous
>>57047954 basically just the same thing as teleportation; free, instant, and long distance
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>>57047961 I would prefer rideable pokemon over that, but let's face it, not having any sort of mobility at all is going to kill the serb just as fast as having too much.
Nobody wants to walk across an entire game world every time they want to visit a town, especially not with hostile mobs dogging you at night.
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>>57047893 that point in cherry blossom biome is Shin Neo Weaboria
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57047998 yeah no worries on that. I'm definitely going to have SOME kind of teleport system tonight.
I'll probably start small with just sethome and home, and I considered adding waystones, but making it so that only I can place them. So when a town makes a decent public spot, like a Pokecenter, we can put waystones at all the major hubs.
Anonymous
>>57048034 can you fucking fix the lag already?
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
Hbeejee: Seen 49, Caught 35
Anonymous
>>57048034 a problem with waystones was with the 2023 gen where literally everything had a waystone
and since some waystones could be setup to not require going to them in person first to use them at all
the supposed restriction on having to go somewhere first before fast travelling became completely irrelevant
also pixelmon’s pokestop feature pretty much crumpled the game’s progression, balancing, and economy with all the free shit each pokestop gave
and when someone made a teleporter network that’d let you easily claim your daily bundle of stuff from them one by one, with dozens of pokestops in the network
you had effectively unlimited exp candies, potions, pokeballs, etc and any sense of progression or balance was shattered and pretty much the only reason to play was to build stuff since the battle engine was just falling apart due to shitcode
obviously we’re not having that game breakingly stupid pokestop feature in cobblemon and since we have a host who actually gives a shit about the game, but it’s still just something worth mentioning and even without the game breaking potential it’d kill the point of exploration or travelling between towns if there’s just no reason to do it instead of taking the teleporter
besides if there’s no reason to be outside of a tiny percent of the map then you really might as well just delete the rest
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57048086 I hear you on this which is why I'm just gonna gradually trickle stuff out after it's been sufficiently discussed. I think everyone wants access to things like /home and /sethome
captcha IXNAY
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>>57048061 I'm doing some chunk pregen to reduce lag from you guys exploring.
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>>57048079 Don't dox me, bro!
Anonymous
>>57048079 >Pokemon board >Those pitiful catch numbers Some poser trainers on this server
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>>57048104 Ok retard you show us how its done then
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>>57048079 Yay I’m 4th place
…as someone not even trying for dex completion, mostly because I have a tendency to take the “tall” approach in games like these (find something and focus on becoming very powerful at it; as opposed to spreading out across a bunch of other things and specializing later)
and in Cobblemon that translates to finding some good, high potential mon and focusing on EV training and leveling it up ASAP
in this case it’s kinda influenced by grinding time costs; it’ll be easier and less resource intensive to train up one mon to be PVP ready than an entire team
I basically took this exact same approach last gen; except with a garchomp instead of a torterra and a cult out for my blood instead of a sane playerbase
also some other miscellaneous quality of life things like being able to check a mon’s nature and ability immediately upon catching, which helps to check if something is worth investing time to grind for or not
Once I get my adamant cherry blossom Torterra fully trained then I’ll direct my focus towards filling out my team
Considering I already have a Golem and a Sandslash I could theoretically just grab a few more ground types and just start calling myself the ground gym leader lol, but I’m not specifically speedrunning that
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Posting my pack to give you some ideas and fish for suggestions
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>>57048079 wow you can't just call me out like that
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>Not whitelisted so I can't join despite playing earlier
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>>57048094 yeah homes are fine, i just think a waystone system would be overdoing it
>>57048165 serb’s undergoing maintenance because the host is working on implementing feedback from players
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>>57048168 Oh
Glad to know I'm just retarded
Saladave !!lGGCe8wpUkl
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>>57048079 i got into the habit of just scanning things for no reason
Anonymous
>players got in early and already mined all the netherite >already using netherite gholdengo
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I know one shiny that exists so far, are there any others?
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>>57047848 Oh yeah if it wasn't already on the shortlist,
>reinforced chests/shulker boxes/barrels https://modrinth.com/mod/reinforced-chests/versions >was about to suggest Joy of painting and immersive painting but I saw the signed paintings mod in there, so oh well Also in regards to the FramedBlocks suggestion from last thread, that one's f*rge only, and the fabric alternative to it is a version behind. Shouldn't be an issue in future gens, but at least for now if anyone has other ideas for custom blocks
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>>57044317 >whitelist why are you gae?
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
We're about to come back online, loads of changes. I'll need to upload a new client modpack but very little on the client side has changed aside from updated cobblemon. I recommend you pick and choose the bits of your instance you update if you have your configs and stuff the way you like it.
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>>57048706 >literally nothing about the lag EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
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All right we're good to go. Gonna drop whitelist when this post goes up. Here's the updated client stuff you need.
https://mega.nz/file/jEkwzZqA#Kf4tTVArScy1AO1dagg4NHz179vZUUiUhcV9jJQ03EI I mostly just updated and stripped some mods. I got rid of Farmer's Delight and tweaked a few configs for Lootr and other stability improvements. I added the aforementioned TP commands for a single home teleport.
Hostile spawns are unchanged. I tried and failed. We'll revisit it. No new content mods have been added yet, this was just a stability and maintenance update. I'm happy to add more just as soon as we're sure we're running as efficiently as we can.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57048779 I did plenty for lag, fuck you. I added loads of server optimization mods. I reduced draw distances so clients have maybe have the potential chunk load impact. I added a few things to make mobs and entities less impactful, and I configured the server to restart a little more often. Let's try to hit peak and see what happens this time.
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oh and a bunch of terrain was pregenerated so now you have to go out unreasonably far to load new chunks.
Anonymous
>>57048706 Do we get some kind of item to booat up mons seriously affected by the 0 IV curse?
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>>57048895 Not right this second, but I promise to implement a future mitigation to bandage that effect, like rerolling them ivs once.
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>>57048797 it's still lagging.
Anonymous
welp.. it's already over one pack update in.....
Anonymous
>>57049245 did you update the client stuff to v2
https://mega.nz/file/jEkwzZqA#Kf4tTVArScy1AO1dagg4NHz179vZUUiUhcV9jJQ03EI buncha other people worked it out
farmers delight got removed from client list, and cobblemon was updated. I don't intend to update client mods frequently but it was necessary this time.
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>>57049303 it's good i tried drag and dropping the instance onto the past one, it cause the problem
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>>57045855 its actually so jarring having a server owner that WANTS to fix issues and have their players have fun (cough cough, PIGGER!)
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>The java binary "" couldn't be found. Please fix the java path override in the instance's settings or disable it.
Anonymous
it's not working help
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EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57050039 if you use my config it will do that.
I recommend you just replace the folders if you already had a working v1 instance.
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>>57050135 yeah i decided that it'd be easier to just replace the mods folder with the new instance's while keeping the rest the same
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I can't connect anymore
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>>57050069 looks like your java was changed to 23 instead of 21 (showdown requirement) which might happen if you copied over the instance.cfg file. I recommend you not do that I just provide it cause ???
if you check pack setting s and switch to 21 you should be fine
Anonymous
fix the fucking lag this is unplayable
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>>57050637 works on my machine
Anonymous
why is this still on page 7 despite recent activity
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>>57050778 its back on page 1 now
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>>57050821 pretty sure we have it already
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>>57050637 Why are you playing on your father’s 10 year old laptop?
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>find an ayy >have 8 ultra balls >gonna catch the ayy >throw ultraball >sorry, you can't do that here! >ultraball is dropped >repeat 4-5 times >can't pick them up again, they're glitched or something
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>>57051014 it's because of the claims
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>>57050988 >pack updates >can no longer fucking join and the internet yields useless results :)
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57051071 bro its cause you didn't read thread
replace JUST the mods folder with the new one
you have to specially make sure farmers delight is deleted
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>>57051014 yeah you can't really catch things in other peopple's claims unless you're trusted or some shit
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>>57051083 farmers delight was the first thing i got rid of
Anonymous
>>57051083 wait you removed farmer's delight? bring it back wtf
Anonymous
>>57051101 too buggy and didn't really add much
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>>57051083 horses mod pls?
Anonymous
>>57051112 add it back, it's not lagging anything they're just items the lag is because you didn't pregen the world retard
Anonymous
>>57051129 it kept crashing players' games
and we're not forcing people to change their clientside mods again
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>>57051129 It crashed the game if anyone right clicked with an axe bruh
Anonymous
>>57051137 >and we're not forcing people to change their clientside mods again so it's gonna stay with this lame as modpack for years?
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>>57051163 are you pretending to be retarded or actually retarded
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I love my spooks so much bros
Anonymous
Did cutting down trees by chopping the bottom trunk get removed?
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>>57051530 Should still be a thing if you crouch with an axe
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>>57051530 the tree detection is finicky sometimes because of overlapping trees or weird tree generation
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delay seems to be the server saving the world
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SHUT IT DOWN SHUT IT DOWN
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the server's so fun and peaceful without some abhorrent cultists who don't deserve to be named
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it was all dandy until i got that AGAIN !!!
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I dont care for aggressive mobs
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>>57053573 I don't care for you, rat.
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bros.... I think I finally fixed lag
Anonymous
>>57053333 checked
to celebrate these quads I'm building an arena in Snowpeak Town for battle events, since it's the largest player town on the server
Anonymous
I wonder if anyone has found my shitshack yet...
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>>57053750 is it in an amethyst rainforest
saw some wooden commieblock surrounded by big log walls
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>>57053750 i did
and there were two torches on the floor for some reason
Anonymous
>>57053730 coming along nicely
just need to get more wood for tools
Anonymous
>>57053771 found it
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/bukkit-plugins/custom-player-models-bukkit/files/5689830 hopefully host sees and adds it before next serb reset, otherwise cpm will just collect dust in the modpack
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>>57053929 and it's now complete; Snowpeak is officially the first town with a proper arena at the league standardized minimum size of 9x15 (torterra for scale)
Admittedly it's rather basic but still I put in a lot of effort and resources into digging this out by hand, alone, with just iron pickaxes
and I'm proud of it
Anonymous
>>57047819 Not going through the chore of avoiding hostile mobs.
Not playing.
Anonymous
>>57054019 it’s getting toned down anyways for quality of life reasons and lag reduction
Anonymous
Tried it but I don't really care for minecraft on an even more casualized easy mode. I hope you fags have fun, though.
Anonymous
>>57054132 if you’re just playing it for the minecraft survival experience you’re seriously missing the point of the modpack
besides minecraft mobs are boring and haven’t been meaningfully touched in over a decade anyways, you are REALLY not missing much here
Anonymous
>>57054144 >missing the point of the modpack what point? there's two mods in your modpack and a million qol shit
Anonymous
>>57054147 specify or gtfo
preferably gtfo since you clearly don’t care about playing on the server in the first place
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>>57044331 yes but you have to get a specs weedle first and find one of the average nu-minecraft single use mobs to get a protector
Anonymous
>>57053771 >>57053984 I see you guys and I will do what I can to fix the problem, easier to fix if it's just a server side issue and now that i'm finally happy with performance, I can focus on these things
>>57054019 >>57054092 >>57054132 >>57054144 >>57054147 Sorry, guys, it turns out the hostile mob versus pure cobblemon experience is really hard to hit here. The right thing to do is to use You shall not spawn to reduce the hostile spawns by a massive fraction, like fifty percent. However the 2.0.0 version of that mod isnt available on fabric for 1.21.1 and we don't have any plug in capability, because I don't actually know how to do that yet. That means the only mitigation is to completely turn them off, and that might have knock on effects for their drops that are necessary because i'm not confident the cobblemon mod can make up for the missing drops. It was originally my understanding that people would spend time building more infrastructure that would keep mobs at bay. But most people have been focusing on the typical minecraft experience, or building up their own towns. Which is fine? It's only been a couple days in, but it means that spawn is a little undeveloped, and there aren't any safe routes to places. I promise I we'll be looking at this more thoroughly now that the performance problems are fixed. I was far more concerned about the lag issues, and i'm glad everything has finally stabilized. I talked to the dev for ysns and they promised to backport the new version of their mod but I don't have timing for that, so i'm open to suggestions short of turning off hostile mob entirely. For the valley criticism that there isn't so much mod content, this was always meant to be a test server. Performance was top priority and now that we achieved it we can slowly add new things. I might wait a week and then release a new client pack with clearer instructions that includes mods people asked for like supplementaries and stuff
Anonymous
>>57054018 If you surrounded this entire arena by diagonal ice spikes made of different kinds of ice blocks and other blue blocks.
It might look really nice. Also, would add some flavor to the mountain, if there were ice spikes at the top of it. You should clean up that water cascading down from the city cause it looks gay
Anonymous
>>57054987 cobblemon is unplayable without mob drops, turn it back on and let shitters suffer if they can't handle a creeper or two
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>>57054987 >now that the performance problems are fixed it's still laggy as shit
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>>57055001 Yeah I was thinking of adding ice to the arena once I get a silk touch pickaxe
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>>57053771 >>57053984 all right! sorry friends, I went and got some support from the CPM discord and discovered that the mod needs to be present on client and server for this feature to work. The intitial confusion is that on modrinth, CPM is labeled specifically a client-only mod and nowhere does it say the mod needs to be on the server in order to function correctly. I have now moved the mod to the server, and when it reboots as scheduled in an hour and five minutes, it should be working after that.
regarding hostile mobs, there is a mod called Cardboard that implements the bukkit/spigot API in Fabric. It's not supported particularly well but if it works, then I might be able to find bukkit plugins to address the hostile mobs issue. I intend to start by trying to reduce their spawns by 50% rather than remove them entirely to try to hit a balance between "pro mob" and "anti mob" opinions. I did try Mobstacker, but it wouldn't ignore the Cobblemons themselves despite being configured to and shit itself.
A new issue was discovered. Turns out the rule for mobgriefing (set to false to prevent creeper holes mostly) have also rendered villagers sterile because mojang thinks picking up bread is griefing. I'll mull over a fix, but for now if anyone has captive villagers, I'll bend the rules (really just no admin cheating) and spawn a few in for them.
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>>57054163 You must learn to differentiate between anons, faggot-san.
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>>57055071 multiple posts have already suggested the idea of toning down spawnrates (to compensate for mobs taking longer to kill due to the tickrate drain they cause) but increasing drops to compensate
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
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so I haven't technically turned down the spawnrates, but I have enabled servercore's spawn caps so they're less numerous when more people are playing. This is mostly to mitigate lag. Additionally, I tweaked cobblemon spawning so they spawn less frequently for people traveling through lots of chunks on boats or horses or elytra.... why waste resource spawning cobblemon for people who aren't sticking around? You only need to stay in place a minute or so for the population to go back up.
Anonymous
jigglypuff larp arc begins now
Anonymous
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>>57056449 >oddish used acid! you suck shit
Anonymous
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Server status?
Anonymous
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dunno what it was an hour ago but it's on w/ a dozen people
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
There's going to be a surprise catch event in the server in 30 minutes. Only a few people will be able to succeed so it'll be first come first served.
Anonymous
was there an update to de pack or something i cant seem to join the server
Anonymous
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>>57057908 How do we go to the event?
Anonymous
>>57057950 ok i did something wrong:
Description: Packet handling error
io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: Failed to decode packet 'clientbound/minecraft:recipe'
Anonymous
>chuck ultraball at what i thought was a jigglypuff >it wasnt a jigglypuff >it was a player
Anonymous
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>>57058143 blame the resident furfag diaperfag roughpuff
Anonymous
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>>57058004 You just have to disable farmer's delight before joining the game. Right now the server has restarted
Anonymous
bvaiot/bladeandswitch is an lolcow
Anonymous
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>>57058185 >rage about a free shiny magikap >release it >wonder if people captured it >released it via pc >lmao nobody cares lol i bet this guy is an underage
Anonymous
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>>57058143 >the jigglypuff throw the ball back >you're the mon now Anonymous
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lazy fuckin bastard
Anonymous
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>>57056449 this post crinkles
Anonymous
Rabbidx
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ATTENTION TRANNY JANNY BUNNY BITCH
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
Today was eventful. Snowpeak got tented for pests.
Anonymous
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>>57059081 How much duping was it?
Anonymous
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>>57059081 why was i banned for duping
Anonymous
>duping is... le bad
Anonymous
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>>57059324 but if you don't get banned for it it's not a crime at all so it loses the thrill
Anonymous
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>i-it's a test server! it's ok if things are janky admin-side! >s-s-stop duping! this is i-i-illegal! you're banned! >but also if you grief you'll just be warned once
xPIGx
go take a look at spawn to see what happens when you fuck with my territory... bitch! /vp/ixelmon belongs to ME.
Rabbidx
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>>57059479 oh yeahhhhhhhhhh boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii *dabs*
HisuianQwilfish
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>>57059081 faggot thiefs in my town? this is not good for our reputation
HisuianQwilfish
Anonymous
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hey so why was i banned for supposedly duping? i wasn't even online when the bans went out so how could i have been
Anonymous
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>>57059479 total pigger death!!!!
Anonymous
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I have singled out the ip address of the leaker, if anyone wants to ddos him he's located at: 127.0.0.1
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
I've got a limited ability to investigate things so for all except like 2 people bans are negotiatiable just post your ban message here so I know who you are.
Anonymous
>>57060457 add it now, why wait?
Anonymous
ive got a shulker full of duped elytras (i assume blades, found in his house) what should i do with it
EpicLopunny
>>57060486 keep them, finders keepers
Anonymous
>>57058451 can jannies add a clover mod?
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57060534 happy too if I had one
Anonymous
>>57060542 can't you just make one?
Anonymous
>>57060534 They could if someone actually made a Clovermon mod though last I checked there wasn't a whole lot of custom mons made yet so it'd have to be up to /vp/ to actually make that happen
Anonymous
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57060557 >>57060546 Basically this. We could start working on developing it by at least putting together the data tables for it and have some kind of placeholder graphic, but the modeling is probably the most effort requiring part.
Anonymous
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Free my nigga brett, his only crime is being british
Anonymous
There are wild duped shulkers on the road between spawntown and niggasaki
Anonymous
Let this be a lesson to you, OP.and then they'll blame you for it.
Anonymous
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>>57060836 hi Roo, hows the ban?
Anonymous
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I don't know who that is.
Anonymous
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brett0007
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This slight against me will not be overlooked.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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SERB DOWN JANNIES REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous
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>>57060905 Tournament Theme: Original 151 KANTOOOOOOOOOOOO mons
Time: Saturday the 12th 7:00 PM EST
Rules: 3v3, Held items only, levels set to 50. You may use moves added to the game after gen one.
Upcoming Planned Events:
Bug Catching, Screenshot Contest, Football/Soccer and Racing
hiddenleviathan
>>57060570 If anyones's willing to do the other side of the work, I'm happy to keep modelling these.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57061228 I admit I've never played Clovermon, but I could put together the basics of a datapack addon for cobblemon if you want to do the models. I'm sure SOMEONE else here can provide the species data and movesets and stuff.
The only problem is it has to be Showdown compatible, Cobblemon supports custom creatures, but more effort is required for moves and abilities.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
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>>57060471 New content updates require sending out a new client pack, which is a major disruption. I only wanna do it sparingly. So in a week or so or whenever I feel like it I'll make a new client pack that has the new mods and a new snapshot of cobblemon
like how annoying would it be to have a new client pack every day
Anonymous
>>57061296 >I admit I've never played Clovermon It's cool it's actually a 4/10 hack with a lot of content. Anyway can you unban me
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57061425 yeah you were borderline, I just didn't have a way to talk to you. Get in and reclaim and I'll help you recover any potential lost items. The actual dupers put shulkers in everyone's claim they had build access to and implicated everyone. Just goes to show don't share your claim thoughtlessly.
Anonymous
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>>57061459 I haven't claimed anything yet, and I haven't touched a shulker
Anonymous
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the great pig clique will never let this mockery of /vp/ixelmon go, count your server's days Lopunny because this is only the beginning
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
Server TODO (no apparent order)
Anonymous
>>57061535 >dragon dance arcanine >add alolan sandshrew don't do these
>give everyone access to /checkspawn make this top priority
Anonymous
>>57061535 consider fixing the awful server lag
Anonymous
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>>57061561 day 1 loser that never saw it improve
Anonymous
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>>57061556 sorry buddy but snowpeak needs more ice types
Anonymous
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oh fuck this is so good fuck uuuhhhh im gonna DUUUUUUUUUPE annnnghrhthhhfhhggahggaggaaaa
Anonymous
Anonymous
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Shit isn’t the same without the Dragon type fags.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
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>>57061690 roger that. Iron chests or something?
>>57061556 I was joking on those
and DONE, /checkspawn is now live
guys who don't know, use these commands to see what Pokken will spawn anywhere
/checkspawn common
/checkspawn uncommon
/checkspawn rare
/checkspawn ultra-rare
also teleports are officially unfuck
/sethome
/home
/back
/spawn
Like they should have fucking been from day one.
hiddenleviathan
Anonymous
I've won.
Anonymous
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57062033 but what happened to the un-despawnable magikarp?
Anonymous
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>>57062041 idk
probably came ashore and suffocated?
it's not unkillable
Anonymous
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REST IN PIECE COOTIESVILLE
Saladave !!lGGCe8wpUkl
HisuianQwilfish
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ill be the only one left at this rate
HisuianQwilfish
also heres a complete clover dex with every pokemon and moveset
https://clover-wiki-replacement.netlify.app Anonymous
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what happened at spawn? thjeres a crater
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57062227 That's super helpful
>>57061972 >>57061228 Do you have a handy list on which clovermons you've done?
I could start with a very basic addon but I wanna talk with you about your models.
hiddenleviathan
>>57062259 Only the ones I've shown in these threads: the starters and Mimimie (my beloved).
Saladave !!lGGCe8wpUkl
>>57062259 you're just going to ignore my appeal and move on?
after all the time i've wasted on this?
you can't get dragon backpacks anyway, because Chesri has the only one.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
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>>57062285 Yeah, actually truth, they were enderman backpacks. I might've made a mistake. Looking into it. Did you mine out all those rocks?
Anonymous
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dupechuds lost
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57062283 lets definitely connect sometime and see if we can make them real
Anonymous
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
Anyone watching the server, we're dropping traveler's backpacks since it seems core to the dupe. We're gonna replace it with something else. We're also going to replace flan with something more compatible.
Anonymous
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>>57062764 the dupe has nothing to do with backpacks lol
it can dupe anything, people did shulkers too
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
So here is some new content we're going to try out in a bit, wait for the impending client pack!
Anonymous
>>57062764 Fuck, really? I had just filled out a creeper backpack I got from a zombie. I see the server is down atm too.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57062969 New stuff is being installed. I know this is a major inconvenience but I feel my hand was forced. I'll accommodate all reasonable request to recover items.
Anonymous
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>>57062991 I don't remember what I had on the backpack that's the issue lol
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57062901 All right, after a bit over an hour of downtime and testing, I think we're good to go. The reason for a lot of the delay is that the new protection mod is far more strict on which events can fire inside zones that aren't yours. Issues ranged from backpacks/pokeballs/pokerods/pokedexs not activatable at all, to issues like pokeballs deleting on contact with pokemon, to pokemon deleting on contact with ball, to some other crazy nonsense. However I've hit all the likely exceptions and if we discover any more I can add them.
Everything I mentioned in that post, save for pvp (didn't pass crash test) is now implemented. Yes, I tested the axes.
I don't know exactly what all OPAC can do, but it does integrate with Xaeros, allowing people to claim chunks on the map. I started with 6 per person, and we can adjust later.
Here's the new pack, and this time I'm going to make it really easy. Delete your mods folder first. Just get rid of it. Apply this mod folder in the zip. Copy over the DH folder if you choose (it's mostly the same data). Re-apply your chosen client mods. If you're new, sorry, you need to work out the config particulars. What's important is that we're running Fabric 0.16.9 on Minecraft 1.21.1 and you need to run it with Java 21.
https://mega.nz/file/qdcH2TwR#QNrwiu7X32dx_IOydgoXej5hMQ27jtFq-WWIkyTfisE I'm lowering the whitelist now, what you'll want to do is stake your claim, and this might be contentious for very close neighbors inside the same chunk. Some rebuilding or close coordination will be necessary, but at least OPAC does have a party system. Please bitch at me for any issues.
Anonymous
you should put together a retard proof guide for the next OP
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>57063237 >>57063375 Hows it go? Im not good at computers
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57063430 whats your setup anon
Anonymous
>>57063435 uhh prism launcher I was fine until this patch
Anonymous
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praying no one finds my hoard of shit since i won't be back home for another 4ish hours
Anonymous
>>57063237 Damn, chunk based? sounds like pretty much all existing towns build are useless then if people are going to claim entire parts of builds over chunk lines. People are going to have demolish entire areas of towns to not fuck with builds.
Also all my shit was in my backpacks. What counts as a reasonable claim for an item? Cause all my balls, regular shulkers, tools, and other resources was in my backpack.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57063484 yeah, I know. close knit towns might need a redesign to accompany the chunk format, but ideally towns should be made with people who trust each other... people who do so can form parties and share their allocated claim blocks as if it was all one claim. You need to look at OpenPAC to get the full list of what you can do.
In regards to backpacks, depending on who you are some of your stuff might have been saved. The bag on people's backs was not easily accessible but as few other bags were. As far as within reason, I know people had ammased a lot of items, so provided you don't pester me for "a stack of netherite blocks" I'll hand over whatever you ask for. It's up to you whether to abuse this or use it as a chance to go back to something normal.
>>57063471 So fortunately I use the same launcher. Assuming you still have v2 set up from before this update just now, it should be very easy to update. Right click your instance and go to FOLDER. Go into the "minecraft" folder. Delete the "mods" folder. Copy and paste the "mods" folder from the zip file in
>>57063237 (should be called Cobblemon Lopunny v3.zip) into the "minecraft" folder to replace the "mods" folder that was there before. You're done! Provided you didn't fuck with the working pack from before any further than that, you should be good to go.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
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>>57063409 Genuinely sorry to you and anyone else that feels this way. I really stumbled on this having not run a server in a long time, I didn't have the general knowledge of the modern day Minecraft admin user, and the constant revisions can be demoralizing. I can only apologize and point out this was always meant to be an experimental server that is a precursor to the more long-lived one I'd like to have. FWIW it's a good thing this community has such high standards for their /vp/ixelmon experience. I'm hoping this will be the last we have to deal with the Dupening Crisis
Anonymous
>new Cobblemon Lopunny v3.zip is corrupted and prisim can't recognize it
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57063604 it doesn't include the normal prism configs cause i keep messing that up but I could try to upload again. Have you looked at
>>57063524 ?
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57063604 >>57063615 actually in retrospect prism might not recognize it cause it ought to be minecraft \ mods and Distant_Horizons_server_data instead of just mods and Distant_Horizons_server_data like it was the last two times. I've uploaded it again for you where it might work better if you're just trying to import it.
https://mega.nz/file/iAVTTLZT#PxPDrX3n6nYQt8DVUc4EZp2P53WJrMoaNP2SQcM4yLA but this doesn't include configs so... yeah. Make sure you include yours.
Anonymous
How do I claim stuff with the new claim mod?
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
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>>57063641 open the world map and right click the chunks you want.
Anonymous
>>57063640 I really don't get why you feel like we need a claims mod at all. The main server during summer managed just fine without it. I think we only had one case of griefing and the dude was banned pretty soon after.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57063707 Right, this was discussed in the previous thread. Claims weren't really a thing because "tranarchy faggots were shown the door by competent jannies"
I am not a competent jannie. I am hoping to set up the server in a way that could require minimal day-to-day attention so I could focus on writing code for new interactivity. The idea was "hey, if people could protect their own shit, then getting fucked is their fault, and not mine." In retrospect, I was enormously naive in nearly every respect, from the average behavior one could come to expect from explicitly seeking a channer audience, to how well any of these mods are actually set up to work together - see the absolute fuckton of work it took to fill the loot tables of terralith's structures with Cobblemon items (and this might have been completely unnecessary but who knows?). Not to mention the galling dupe bug that was apparently exploited immediately. I should have participated more in the previous seasons and I might have had more of a clue. Some idea of which buttholes were just there to create problems and which ones are reasonably invested in this experience who might have been competent jannies themselves. But I was spurred on by what seemed to be great interest so I might have dived in and got in a bit over my head.
I think claims can be a good idea for the health of a server that's meant to last longer than a single season. Maybe I'm wrong. People didn't seem opposed to the idea in the last thread. People are still warning me the interest burns out frequently. I'm still ok with this, I think. It could be that I'm just approaching this from the wrong angle. People weren't trying to grief spawn until the guys duping netherite, coins, and candy got banned. Then the "clique war" got started or something, I don't really know who the players are in this and suddenly the server was targeted. Taking away their specific way of having fun seemed to be a faux pas in the immediate sense.
Anonymous
>>57063773 As someone who helped run my high school's semi-official server way back in 2010-2012, I completely understand the feeling of being in way over your head. Managing any public minecraft server is a challenge and modded is a whole other beast, especially when you're working with snapshots of updates to mods that aren't ready for full release yet - there's going to be bugs and exploits and every time you change/fix something you're going to create new problems, it's a vicious cycle of trying to make a good experience without becoming a control freak. Don't burn yourself out, pace yourself and you'll find your way.
As for making the server require minimal attention, realistically the only way to do that is to get a team of jannies to moderate 24/7 until interest dies down enough that only the regulars who are invested enough to moderate themselves are around. You'll always have griefers popping in just to cause trouble from time to time, there'll always be a rule you didn't lay out that turns into a dispute once someone does something unexpected, even reasonable people are going to disagree on what's okay and what's a problem occasionally - how close to another's claim is too close to put yours or a misunderstanding of something typed in chat creating tension. Sure you could try automated tools to prevent major problem behavior but even human moderation gets false positives like today's bans for duped items even getting people who didn't do anything so automating it could lead to more time spent correcting for it, and someone will find a way around them if they're determined enough. Even the claims, you can only trust people who've earned it, but a patient troll could always be friendly long enough to gain access to stuff before breaking out the tnt and lava buckets. Unless you actually know everyone playing you'll never get it to a state where you won't have to have an admin pop in every few hours to see what's going on and handle potential issues.
Anonymous
>>57063773 >People are still warning me the interest burns out frequently. Because these retards don't know what the fuck they want. They'll complain about the survival mechanics and demand you set the server on easy baby mode with mods that further trivialize the game and rush the little content they have only to find themselves with nothing left to do.
They don't need to build defenses, they don't have to build a farm, there's no real incentive to explore besides dex filling and, most importantly, there's nothing to stop these idiots from rushing to the end content within the first couple of days.
>b-but muh tedious team building Niggers.
Also, add something like Dimensional Doors so people can build something a bit more personal outside of the griefers' reach. Anonymous
>>57063773 With all due respect, I think a lot of the griefing and such is likely coming from the fact that you were too gung-ho banning people regarding duping without much investigation into the matter of who did exactly what. Because of this you've put yourself in a situation where players don't respect you because you haven't taken the time to respect them first, which I get since you're trying to iron out bugs and clashes and other such things, but not taking the proper time to investigate is the wrong way to go. Just jumping into the deep end like you have hasn't been the correct way to go about this. You don't have any other jannies besides yourself, I don't know whether or not you've joined other pixelmon servers in the past but from your performance it seems like you haven't, because you look like you're drowning whereas if you at least gathered some information from previous gens first you might have had a better start in understanding how the servers function both mechanically and culture wise. This isn't to say that what you did wasn't justified but from an outside perspective you made yourself look like a tryhard.
Anonymous
>>57063773 >host a server for people he has no idea how they're like >wants it to be longer and better than what was before without caring about the why >also puts in barely no effort, constantly complains about doing shit like fixing loot tables >go ballistic and hyper aggressive at the first bug exploit >turns a blind eye towards some grieffers, punish other merely because they're suspicious >go in thread and cries about things not going well Anonymous
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>>57063930 >>57063948 >>57063954 >>57064026 I appreciate the perspective, and I'll endeavor to be more thoughtful going forward. I've also got a couple of people helping me out that I'm going to try to rely on. Despite the problems this week, I do think this is the best iteration so far. If I get a moment, I'll make the server pack available later today (it's already thursday).
I briefly looked into Dimensional Doors when you mentioned it. I remembered liking it a lot. However, it's trapped on the previous version of Minecraft. I'd be open to something similar if anyone finds it.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>winter gen will have lasted one entire thread
Anonymous
>>57064376 At least lopunny will have learnt a valuable lesson. always expect the worst if you're hosting something for /vp/ chuds, that's why summer serbs have like 5 jannies
Anonymous
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57065011 uh, which one do you have,
>>57063237 or
>>57063640 I'd advise you to open the archive manually and replace the mods folder in the old instance with the new one (don't merely copy it over, a couple mods were removed).
This time I used Prism's "Export" feature, so I think it should work, so Prism should recognize it as the correct type. I even corrected the javapath, I think. It still might need to be adjusted. But this time I made sure Prism could import it. If someone makes a new topic, use THIS link.
Official unfuck version of the client:
https://mega.nz/file/zNN0BZID#P8KOA3znhcNkaCRNkuEAZLB_74mTJMHNo4TsmKpzeso And here's the server I kept promising to share:
https://mega.nz/file/PdN3RRLa#2Y2CsazdCoYN2MF_kvLDi3QB0-PQ5xN2m1rhPFMpgaA >>57064376 >>57064495 I paid too much for 30 days of server time and I'm thinking we could still wring a lot out of that. Give me one last shot to get it right. I've got two or three people pegged I'd like to ask to be jannies, but I'm always willing to consider nominations.
Anonymous
>>57065140 >willing to consider nominations bladeandswitch got framed by the clique, the least you could do is name him jannie
Anonymous
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Mega is taking ages to load wtf
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57065217 I'd let him back if he appealed (I'd let most people back if they appealed cause I'm counting on the dupe exploit being addressed) but Blade threw that nasty tantrum over a magikarp that was really funny but also really enlightening.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
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Experimenting with openpac, claims start out as being pretty locked down, but there's a huge amount of control you can have by pressing the single quote button (or whatever you map it to). You can enable/disable all kind of interactables like doors and levers. Some things should always be interactable tho, but I can adjust the config as those issues come up.
brett0007
>>57065290 can I appeal my ban? Especially since you banned me for spawn when DIDNT FUCKING DO IT.
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57065601 ban message please? just to confirm who you are
brett0007
>>57065660 Super duper, have a nice xmas
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
Anonymous
Can we mount certain pokemons like it was in pixelmon?
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
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>>57067048 At the moment, because I'm running a 1.6 snapshot of Cobblemon, I can't until the addon mod author decides to release his, and he's chosen to wait until 1.6's formal release. I will definitely include it the moment it's out
Anonymous
If this is a test server, unban everyone and spy on them to see how they dupe.
Anonymous
>>57068502 the dupe was putting stuff on your pokemon in a claimed area. That was the whole thing.
you could do this with anything, including shulkers, so why janny decided to delete backpacks and thus most of the belongings of everyone who wasn't online when he declared that is a mystery since it was purely a flan+cobblemon thing
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
>>57068718 It's not a big mystery. I merely tested it and changed the pack based on the results that I got. I worked out the dupe glitch could happen with traveler's backpacks anywhere, regardless of the location and whether a claim existed. I couldn't replicate the flan+cobblemon thing specifically and I couldn't witness it either, but I thought it was better to take precautions on the flan and replace it.
Anonymous
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>>57068749 The only duping that will happen. and never again.
Anonymous
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Does it really matter if people dupe? All it does is make the building aspect and grinding bearable for something that will eventually die
EpicLopunny !!wshrwuJLXPB
