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Anonymous Tue 07 Jan 2025 10:46:08 No.57190313 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>57190447 >>57190457 >>57190749 >>57191687 >>57198550 >>57198583

Original Dragon lore discussion thread.
What even is the Original Dragon (will be referred to as OD from now on, unless the term overdose comes up.)?
What type would the OD be? Pure Dragon? Dragon/Ice?
What would it look like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jan 2025 11:10:48 No.57190356 Report

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Definitely a Kyurem form. Maybe it'll have a Signature move that's just an amped up Dragon-type Tri Attack but with a higher status condition chance, and also have regular Tri Attack.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jan 2025 12:03:03 No.57190447 Report

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>>57190313
It would be pure Dragon type, have an ability that nullifies others' abilities completely (basically a renamed Neutralizing Gas). It would be largely grey and be a more organic-looking dragon with a combination of Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem's features due to a proper re-merging of its parts (instead of the messes we got through the DNA Splicers).

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jan 2025 12:09:32 No.57190457 Report

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>>57190313
pure dragon with an ability that gives it stab on fire and electric moves, similar to steelworker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jan 2025 14:32:04 No.57190749 Report

Quoted By: >>57191148 >>57191687 >>57192979

>>57190313
I have a headcanon saying it’s a member of the creation trio, representing energy itself. Also wishful thinking, but it would be cool if it was dragon plasma type.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jan 2025 16:57:27 No.57191148 Report

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>>57190749
>Dialga = Steel = Solid
>Palkia = Water = Liquid
>Giratina = Ghost = Gas
OD = Plasma = Plasma
SSSSOOOOVVVVLLLL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jan 2025 16:59:55 No.57191162 Report

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the real question is does it end with "rum" or does it end with "rim"

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jan 2025 18:48:38 No.57191544 Report

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>>57191162
rym

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jan 2025 19:16:49 No.57191687 Report

Quoted By: >>57191927 >>57192979

>>57190313
>>57190749
Don't forget that Ghetsis for some reason had the creation trio items.
Since the creation trio all got their Origin forms I assume Origin dragon stays in its Origin form.
OD likely represents energy and plasma as the state of matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jan 2025 20:10:31 No.57191927 Report

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>>57191687
Wait, actually? That's actually cool world building. Could it be connected to those rocket magma and aqua grunts that also ended up in Unova?

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Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2025 00:29:53 No.57192979 Report

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>>57190749
>>57191687
Giratina's prototype was said to have split into three beings - though those three were Groudon Kyogre and fug. I can see them reusing this idea for Kyurem.

Though, what would complete Kyurem represent within Creation and existence?

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Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2025 12:53:45 No.57194958 Report

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>>57192979
Source? I’m guessing the teraleak but please post it.

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Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2025 18:41:10 No.57196274 Report

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>>57191927
Yeah, IIRC weren't the aqua and magma grunts in BW2 actually the children of the rocket grunt in BW?

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Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2025 19:14:16 No.57196413 Report

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>>57194958
It’s not Giratina’s prototype or whatever that anon is claiming. It was one of the variants of the “Arceus kills the giant(s)” myth they were spitballing. The giant(s) is/are specified by Masuda to not have been pokemon, but in one of the myths they say it was cursed with slowness, so it’s probably closer to proto Regigigas than anything.

Giratina’s prototype is Kimairan, a wrathful god that cries out for other members of its kind. Turnback Cave was made as a temple to calm its rage in the beta version of DP. It’s the thing that looks like Lando-T with angel wings, and was replaced with Giratina at the literal last second of development, as evidenced by its name being Giratina’s internal one in Battle Revolution (something we’ve known since 2008 or so).

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Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2025 19:52:29 No.57196589 Report

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>>57191148
>Giratina
>gas
Giratina is all antimatter, to contrast Dialga/Palkia being all matter. They aren’t specific phases.

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 02:42:31 No.57198498 Report

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>>57196589
They represent Time, Space, and Antimatter (none represent matter) so I though energy was also a universe property the OD could be. The phases of matter are just a secondary pattern between their non-dragon types, with steel being solid, water being liquid, and ghost (admittedly kinda) being gas (the only other one that could would be flying, but wtvr). I thought the OD merging fire and electricity in some way could represent plasma, the fourth state, and complete this pattern. It also fits well with the energy thing.

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 02:57:03 No.57198550 Report

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>>57190313

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 03:08:33 No.57198583 Report

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>>57190313
Pure dragon with an ability that turns every pokemon on the field into a pure dragon type (like soak for water type) on switch in. Pure dragon is actually kinda shit, so it'd need a buff.

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 13:32:41 No.57200144 Report

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>>57198550
Nice creation trio faces

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 13:59:26 No.57200210 Report

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>>57198583
Could be something like a reskinned or buffed Tinted Lense?

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 16:31:36 No.57200772 Report

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>>57198550
left looks like a fairy type

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:25:39 No.57201739 Report

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Dragon/Psychic?

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 20:34:11 No.57201795 Report

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>>57198498
> (none represent matter)
Anon, they outright refer to Dialga/Palkia as matter ingame. Two make matter and three make spirit, shaping the world. Giratina is the manifestation of antiparticles created by birthing Dialga/Palkia (matter) into the world.

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:22:57 No.57202036 Report

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>>57191148
>Giratina is gas

Wut

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:23:50 No.57202047 Report

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>>57202036

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:30:02 No.57202073 Report

Quoted By: >>57202089

>>57202047
That's not Giratina...

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:32:53 No.57202089 Report

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>>57202073
Ghost are often gaseous

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2025 21:36:48 No.57202109 Report

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>>57202089
>often

Yes. But the vast, vast majority are not.

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Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2025 03:17:46 No.57203651 Report

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>>57191148
>>57198550
>>57200772

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