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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 16:42:39 No.57220146 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>57220189 >>57220686 >>57220707 >>57220841 >>57220857 >>57220893 >>57220904 >>57221153 >>57221836

Is there a consensus on which mythica/legendaries are canonically one-of-a-kind and which are just rare species?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 17:00:28 No.57220189 Report

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>>57220146
No. The games and anime really aren’t consistent about it. It’s probably for the best to treat each legendary as an exceedingly rare species though, as that’s generally closest to how they’re portrayed.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 19:23:54 No.57220686 Report

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>>57220146
In my opinion there's no canon on the matter.

I choose to believe each game is an alternate universe wherein the sole existing legendary was never caught.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 19:29:46 No.57220707 Report

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>>57220146
I like to believe there's one Legendary and a bunch of legendaries in its image.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 19:32:54 No.57220721 Report

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 19:59:28 No.57220834 Report

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>pokemon are species
>Zacian and Zamazenta are individuals
what species are they?
what species were their parents?
why aren't they called [pokemon species] - Hero of Sword/Shield like Bloodmoon is?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:01:07 No.57220841 Report

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>>57220146
No,there's 0 consistency on what gets classified as what

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:04:20 No.57220857 Report

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>>57220146
Every single Pokemon has an infinite quantity due to the nature of spacetime fuckery being as common as an occasional sprinkling of rain from a gorillion different sources, pushing and pulling Pokemon across timelines and universes as GameFreak sees fit to ensure you can always acquire a "one-per-universe" Pokemon that logically should not be present, but is thanks to the aforementioned fuckery.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:10:58 No.57220893 Report

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>>57220146
If you want the pokemon fanbase consensus you might as well just make your own headcanon.
Canon explanation is what you should care about.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:12:33 No.57220904 Report

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>>57220146
I don't think any Pokémon are one-of-a-kind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:13:33 No.57220913 Report

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>>57220904
Mewtwo is (occasionally retconned)

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:17:32 No.57220930 Report

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>>57220913
>Gen 1 Mewtwo
>Gen 3 Mewtwo
>Gen 4 Mewtwo
>Gen 6 Mewtwo
And that's not even counting the Mewtwo that show up in rehashes or ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:25:30 No.57220963 Report

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>>57220930
You are counting rehashes for half of those and the only other is le kanto call back. Do you think the Kalos forest is actually a carbon copy of Viridian too?
Also
>post game non-story related legendaries being actually canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:26:47 No.57220969 Report

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>>57220904
Arceus (true form at least, avatars don't count)

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:28:09 No.57220981 Report

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>>57220969
Debatable, we aren't entirely sure if the story of creation encompasses the multiverse at large or if it's just one specific universe's creation, and that there's a whole-ass network of infinite Aus, one ruling over each universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:33:58 No.57221009 Report

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>>57220913
>Mewtwo is (occasionally retconned)
So it's not.
>>57220969
Debatable, but I don't think you can just say that avatars don't count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 20:40:32 No.57221037 Report

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>>57220913
Only in one universe
>>57220930
>Gen 3 Mewtwo
Its a remake.

>Gen 4 Mewtwo
Not canonically caught

>Gen 6 Mewtwo
Never stated to be a different one.

>show up in rehashes
You are literally counting those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 21:08:09 No.57221153 Report

Quoted By: >>57221190 >>57221427

>>57220146
Its outright stated in PLA that some of the godlike entities can split off a lesser physical form as a Pokemon so I imagine that some of the ones that could literally destroy the planet(groudon/kyogre) or reality itself(the creation trio) probably just split off multiple versions/aspects of themselves to run/maintain reality

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 21:10:07 No.57221159 Report

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>>57221037
Gen 6 Mewtwo is a different one. Trevor mentions he also caught a Mewtwo if you show it to him.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 21:14:32 No.57221190 Report

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>>57221153
>some of the godlike entities can split off a lesser physical form as a Pokemon
Only Arceus has the “received a part of it” entry in the journal, and only it copy pastes itself into your inventory. Not really the case for any other legendary or mythical. In HGSS we see it can just make extra Sinnoh dragons whenever, too.

>>57220981
Or even if Arceus just created Sinnoh. The games say it (in legend) “created Sinnoh and *possibly* the entire world” and Laventon says its light only spreads across Hisui, so we really don’t know the extent to which Arceus/an Arceus actually governs. We probably won’t get an answer.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 21:16:53 No.57221198 Report

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each game is its own instance of canon, and the legendaries are one of a kind

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 21:20:26 No.57221219 Report

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>>57221190
>Only Arceus has the “received a part of it” entry in the journal, and only it copy pastes itself into your inventory. Not really the case for any other legendary or mythical.

Don't be dense, you're trying to argue the in game personifications of spacetime itself the fundamental bedrock of reality itself as we can conceive it, cant otherwise be in more than one place at once or spit themselves? Come on...

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 22:03:23 No.57221427 Report

Quoted By: >>57221809

>>57221159
That's just your favorite poketuber not understanding what a video game is.
>>57221153
Not really. Only Arceus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 23:42:47 No.57221799 Report

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>>57221219
The game never even suggests it for them, unlike Arceus. No one cares about your baseless headcanon.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 23:45:04 No.57221809 Report

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>>57221427
>poketuber
Anon, Trevor is a character in XY. I know you didn’t play the games but come on.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 23:45:15 No.57221812 Report

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>>57220930
Mewtwo isn't in ORAS.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 23:46:57 No.57221817 Report

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>>57221198
this basically, which is essentially what I said >>57220686

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 23:51:43 No.57221835 Report

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>>57221190
You can rematch Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus and use them against themselves

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 23:52:05 No.57221836 Report

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>>57220146
All box legendaries are most likely one offs

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2025 23:58:15 No.57221860 Report

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>>57221836
Solgaleo and Lunala are explicitly not, they're just aliens that became legendary by defeating the Tapu in battle

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2025 08:42:31 No.57223506 Report

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>>57221799
>The game never even suggests it for them, unlike Arceus. No one cares about your baseless headcanon.
>>57221835
lol, lmao even

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jan 2025 09:42:06 No.57223663 Report

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>but what if there are parallel universes where-

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