>>57456617Charizard is widely regarded by the community to be a starter, despite the fact that, according to your supposed "I know better than Satoshi Tajiri himself" words, it is not a starter.
And I'm certain that you, too, refer to Charizard as a starter.
>>57456626You said
>Pokémon #157 and Pokémon #157 aren't the same PokémonWhich implies they're truly 1:1. But I can't get those forms in the games the originals debuted in.
So they're new final stages for the starters.
Therefore, Shitsui meets the criteria to be a new gen.
