>>57551237>Yeah, but Gen 2 came after Gen 1.The entire point you're trying to make is that Game Giovanni does not have actual Charisma:
>>57546852Then, when it was pointed out that Gen 1 did not have much room for characterization (and that your character is not in a position to see Giovanni's charisma since, y'know, you're fighting against him), you promptly went 'nah, show me where he was charismatic in Gen 1, Gen 2 and the remakes don't count'.
If you want an flat, no-frills explanation, it's because, in Gen 1, Team Rocket was just a fantasy version of the Yakuza and Giovanni was likely no more than a common mob boss at the time, with the closest to a hint otherwise being him saying he can't face his underlings after having lost so many times. If he was more than that, it likely didn't make it into the game, because it's an 8-bit RPG on the Game Boy. Generation 2 would build on him by having his followers' devotion to him be so strong that their master plan is to call out for him to come back and lead them.
If there are examples of Giovanni's charisma in Gen 1, it'd probably be from the grunts, but I don't think anybody really memorizes the dialogue of most NPCs in Gen 1.
>What?The point is that the remnants of Team Rocket want him back. None of them want to step up and replace him. Did you think they just pulled Archer's simp characterization out of thin air when they remade Gen 4?
