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Pokemon Clover

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 04:53:49 No.57590314 View View Reply Original Report

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Why did Clover succeed but Sage failed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 04:55:54 No.57590318 Report

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>>57590314
Memes, I guess. Plus, Clover is a rom hack, whereas Sage is a full fledged fangame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 05:08:25 No.57590357 Report

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>>57590314
for starters, clover's devs were actually able to release a playable and fleshed out product
while sage is stuck in near permanent development hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 05:18:15 No.57590403 Report

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>>57590314
Can someone draw porn of Psychic and Crush girl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 06:20:54 No.57590583 Report

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>>57590314
because three reasons, fairy types, original designs and a full packed team quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 06:46:07 No.57590649 Report

Quoted By: >>57590752 >>57594060

>>57590314
Are these sprites in? They look great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 07:26:58 No.57590752 Report

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>>57590649
Apparently yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 11:50:53 No.57591572 Report

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>>57590314
By actually making the fucking game instead of jerking off on discord for 10 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 12:45:44 No.57591816 Report

Quoted By: >>57595358

I liked Wack more desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 13:12:57 No.57591894 Report

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>>57590314
>Clover
>succeed
If by succeed you mean being played solely by radical reddit tryhard compfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 14:17:45 No.57592229 Report

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>>57590314
It released.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 14:22:21 No.57592254 Report

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>>57590314
One of Sage's devs fucked off to make her own game, which is also permanently stuck in development hell now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 14:26:07 No.57592275 Report

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Succeeded in what? Being cringe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 14:31:07 No.57592298 Report

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Succeeded in what? Being based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 14:38:31 No.57592335 Report

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>>57592254
>her

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 15:24:41 No.57592549 Report

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Crush girl can crush me if you know what I mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 15:32:23 No.57592594 Report

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>>57590314
Having a game out helps, for starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 15:34:06 No.57592606 Report

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>>57590314
by actually getting it done

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 15:34:58 No.57592611 Report

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>>57592549
Crush your self-esteem? Don't you get plenty of that from 3D girls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 15:45:15 No.57592650 Report

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>>57592254
QRD?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 15:47:41 No.57592657 Report

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>>57590314
Sage devs became obsessed with democracy, to the point where every little decision had to be voted on and re-voted on before anyone could go ahead and do something. So this slowed down dev, and over time they just slowly bled people until there was no one left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 15:48:07 No.57592662 Report

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>>57590314
Well, actually releasing, for one. I know Sage seemingly is still being worked on but NPC that makes a crack at Sage only gets funnier and sadder as time goes on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 16:13:28 No.57592747 Report

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>>57592611
I don't have any self-esteem. I meant my cock and balls, actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 16:19:52 No.57592778 Report

Quoted By: >>57592785

What's actually the deal with sage? Anybody still browsing 4chan that work on it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 16:20:44 No.57592785 Report

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>>57592778
No they all trooned out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 16:59:31 No.57593008 Report

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>>57591572
>>57592785
this is pretty funny considering the shitposting that clover gets in /rheg/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 18:46:36 No.57593543 Report

Quoted By: >>57593987

Psychic on the left side crush girl on the right both feet where you want them to be

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 18:56:33 No.57593587 Report

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>>57592335
Is it a troon? I honestly don't know, but considering the fact said "woman" stays on discord 24/7, I wouldn't put that possibility out of question.
>>57592650
One of Sage's devs went on to make a fangame based on Reborn and Rejuvenation called Azure, it rips off Legend of Whora's artstyle and right after it released it's first version years ago, it immediatelly went into development hell and version 2 got cut into 1.5 and then 2.5 and now the faggots behind the game went completely radio silent despite promising an update to release more than 2 years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 20:06:29 No.57593987 Report

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>>57593543
Thanks doc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 20:20:13 No.57594060 Report

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>>57590649
Confirmed to be in 2.0

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 21:36:56 No.57594453 Report

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That means Channeler and Hex Maniac are getting new designs. Wonder how those will look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 00:42:21 No.57595319 Report

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>>57590314
Surprised Beauty, Crush Gal, and Chaneller aren't as popular as Ace Girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 00:45:50 No.57595339 Report

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>>57595319
Those used to just the existing FRLG ones. Not much for people to latch on at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 00:46:14 No.57595343 Report

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where battle channel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 00:46:52 No.57595347 Report

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>>57590403
i want the crush girl to hold my hands while riding my dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 00:48:37 No.57595358 Report

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>>57591816
if you relied on wonder trade mons you didn't beat the game
this applies to every game with wonder trading btw

>>57592657
if they wanted that they'd be genuinely better off with making the game open source so at least progress could be made, like, at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 01:12:48 No.57595474 Report

Quoted By: >>57595672

is noon good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 01:50:51 No.57595672 Report

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>>57595474
whoon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 03:15:10 No.57595944 Report

Quoted By: >>57597247 >>57598203

>>57594060
Damn, I'm excited. Only two more weeks to go, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 03:19:09 No.57595960 Report

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>Chantruth was actually supposed to be called Merchantruth
Had my mine blown today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 12:16:17 No.57597247 Report

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>>57595944
Try two more years

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 16:31:39 No.57598203 Report

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>>57595944
5 days

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 19:12:09 No.57598933 Report

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>>57590314
Clover actually delivered a 95% complete game before it fell for the Discord Circlejerk meme (and even then, the Clover server is private, so it's just a typical faggy circlejerk from the pre-Discord days).
Sage floundered until it became a Discord Tranny project (a public one, so the faggotry is at a maximum) that quickly became fully ashamed of its 4chan heritage, and ever since then has been an unregulated perfectionist spree because no one wants to moderate how much needs to be reworked completely from the ground up with every passing instance of "remove 4chan influence".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 19:22:18 No.57598984 Report

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>>57593587
you must be new to the internet. "women" who are into programming for videogame ROM hacks are never actually women.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:14:13 No.57599764 Report

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>>57598203
*minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:21:25 No.57599792 Report

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>>57592254
>>57593587
>Azure
>Lead Developer: pkchu, darius, vincenzonova
I worked on Sage a long time ago and I have no idea who these people are. Unless they changed their handles this sounds like a nothingburger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:25:21 No.57599816 Report

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>>57599792
Troons love completely changing their usernames to reflect their "new selves" and do so regularly, unless you're schizophrenically obsessed with someone you have no chance of keeping up with their name changes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:30:51 No.57599839 Report

Quoted By: >>57599890

>>57593008
I don't know anything about /rheg/ but I imagine people who play a lot of romhacks or even make them sit in there. Clover is the kind of thing most players will love and those people will hate, if it were a film it'd have 2/5 critic score and 5/5 audience score.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:44:54 No.57599890 Report

Quoted By: >>57599913 >>57599918 >>57599945

>>57599839
the claim is regularly made that the clover devs trooned out and retreated to their discord server, abandoning /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:47:37 No.57599908 Report

Quoted By: >>57599935 >>57601670 >>57601691 >>57602684 >>57602838 >>57602851 >>57602968 >>57604324 >>57606344

I have never played a romhack before. Is clover a good start?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:48:07 No.57599913 Report

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>>57599890
I know someone who is in the project and he told me they even removed the tranny trainer class, instead just gave some female trainers male names because "the joke wasn't funny".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:49:59 No.57599918 Report

Quoted By: >>57599936

>>57599816
>>57599890
Sage is troons, Clover is troons, you're troons, I'm troons. Find me something that HASN'T been accused of secret trannyism by 4chan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:53:27 No.57599935 Report

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>>57599908
No. Clover is a huge in-joke. It's probably a perfectly fine second game, but if you're just starting you should try something traditional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:53:33 No.57599936 Report

Quoted By: >>57599958

>>57599918
>accused
>secret trannyism
they are all extremely public

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:55:06 No.57599945 Report

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>>57599890
>the claim is regularly made
lel
honestly most anons have abandoned /vp/ over the years so it wouldn't be strange if they did too
Besides, not really a reason to have constant generals for a project where the concepts have been finished for 5-10 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:57:34 No.57599958 Report

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>>57599936
Extremely public... in their private Discord. Of which you're a registered member so you can spy on all their trooning secrets.

I'm not a member because I don't like Discord, and I'm not afraid to admit this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 05:16:01 No.57601670 Report

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>>57599908
You can do a lot worse than having Clover as your first. If you're interested then play it, just note the difficulty is much higher than the vanilla games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 05:20:05 No.57601691 Report

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>>57599908
Yes, do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 05:28:20 No.57601710 Report

Quoted By: >>57604626

>>57590314
Sage never got finished

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 14:20:28 No.57602684 Report

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>>57599908
It's a bit hard for a first time but so are most hacks because romhack revs are obsessed with flexing their teambuilding skills and filling their games with compshit.

Try Gaia.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 15:07:08 No.57602838 Report

Quoted By: >>57603447 >>57603840 >>57604324

>>57599908
No, it's way too fucking hard. Good thing is that when Clover 2.0 comes out you can select an easier difficulty so it's closer to regular pokemon games, but in its current state I couldn't possibly recommend it to anyone unless they are a compfag.

Try Rocket Edition instead. It's FireRed with a good plot and you can steal people's pokemon.

https://rocket-edition.com/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 15:10:20 No.57602851 Report

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>>57599908
As a start? No, start with something simple like a hack of FireRed or Emerald with "all" 386 Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 15:47:39 No.57602968 Report

Quoted By: >>57604058

>>57599908
No, Clover expects you to know Pokemon pretty well and be well versed with compfaggotry, the game does not hold it's punches. The AI doesn't input read, but it knows pretty much everything you have, which makes it pretty hard to handle sometimes.
I would recommend something simpler like Gaia, Odyssey, Peridot or Rocket Edition. Gaia is a bit boring though, it's a very faithful fangame to the main series, both to it's praise and detriment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 17:22:44 No.57603447 Report

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>>57602838
I wouldn't say clover requires you to be a "compfag", you just have to do some actual teambuilding instead of sweeping the game with random mons. You don't have to EV train or anything too autistic. And certain tactics make the whole game way easier, like having a mon with Sticky Web.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 18:36:41 No.57603840 Report

Quoted By: >>57603863

>>57602838
I hadn't played Pokemans in over a decade before Clover and I appreciated that it pulled no punches. It forced me to depend on status effects and finally find out what Sp.Atk means. The rival battle on the boat was complete horseshit though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 18:42:26 No.57603863 Report

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>>57603840
>he rival battle on the boat was complete horseshit
You signed up for the ruse cruise, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 19:25:00 No.57604058 Report

Quoted By: >>57604138 >>57604190 >>57604951

>>57602968
>The AI doesn't input read
I've actually heard the opposite, supposedly Clover DOES read your input before it selects a move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 19:41:40 No.57604138 Report

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>>57604058
Huh? I've switched in lots of resistant and immune Pokemon for opponents to waste their turn on. Is this restricted to late game trainers or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 19:55:07 No.57604190 Report

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>>57604058
It doesn't input read, I've made the AI waste turns loads of times. But many trainers have coverage moves and if a non-SE move can cause a KO anyway the AI will use it, which can mean your switch-in gets hit with a SE move.
e.g. you switch out a low-HP grass type for a water type to wall a fire type, but it uses energy ball since it'd kill the grass type anyway. This might seem like it "knew" you'd switch to a water type. But it doesn't know what you selected, you're just being predictable and not taking coverage moves into account.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 20:30:12 No.57604324 Report

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>>57599908
for a pokemon game it's a breath of fresh air, even if the memes have gotten stale. Definitely try it
>>57602838
>No, it's way too fucking hard
I just savefagged on my first playthrough. Still a fun experience

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 21:27:38 No.57604584 Report

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>>57593587
>One of Sage's devs went on to make a fangame based on Reborn and Rejuvenation
already off to a really great start
>it immediatelly went into development hell and version 2 got cut into 1.5 and then 2.5 and now the faggots behind the game went completely radio silent despite promising an update to release more than 2 years ago.
i'm pretty sure you already mentioned it was based on rejuvenation, you don't need to remind us that it's gonna have an extremely bad update schedule within the same sentence

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 21:41:08 No.57604626 Report

Quoted By: >>57604675

>>57601710
also
never got the fairy type
never got original designs
never got a decent team arsenal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 21:52:53 No.57604675 Report

Quoted By: >>57604759

>>57604626
>never got original designs
huh? the entire dex is original designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:08:50 No.57604759 Report

Quoted By: >>57604767

>>57604675
>huh? the entire dex is original designs
plagiarized from official designs, many times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:10:05 No.57604767 Report

Quoted By: >>57604882

>>57604759
Such as?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:28:18 No.57604882 Report

Quoted By: >>57604894 >>57604914 >>57604979 >>57604988

>>57604767

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:30:47 No.57604894 Report

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>>57604882
Some of these aren't even animal+element levels of overlap.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:34:49 No.57604914 Report

Quoted By: >>57604946

>>57604882
I wish you were trolling but you really went through the effort to shoop this together, so I'm having second thoughts. I don't even have words for this. Like if you think the computer bug is plagiarized from the purple slime, I don't even know how to respond. This is just weird

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:40:52 No.57604946 Report

Quoted By: >>57604965

>>57604914
>I don't even have words for this
I do: retarded autism. Just ignore it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:42:09 No.57604951 Report

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>>57604058
It doesn’t. I know Unbound will if you predict the AI enough though. You can test each with save states for instance.

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:43:18 No.57604963 Report

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>>57590314
neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:43:23 No.57604965 Report

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>>57604946
you can't ignore the truth, sagetard, your game will NEVER be finished because legal troubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:45:24 No.57604979 Report

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>>57604882
I'm warning you, devs! If you know what's good for you, you will NOT have legs AND you'll NOT have wings!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:46:54 No.57604988 Report

Quoted By: >>57604999

>>57604882
Man this just reminds me how fucking cool sage's designs are. Someone's got to steal them and put them in an actual game. It's not like they can sue or anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:48:58 No.57604999 Report

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>>57604988
>Man this just reminds me how fucking cool clover's designs are
ffty

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 01:59:17 No.57606078 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 02:51:28 No.57606344 Report

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>>57599908
No, definitely not. Clover is probably top 3 Pokémon ROM hacks but it's way too hard for anyone that isn't an autistic child, save it for your fourth or fifth fangame. Rocket edition is probably the best way to start fangames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 14:01:30 No.57608272 Report

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>>57590314
Clover actually came out

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