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Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:39:56 No.57599872 View View Reply Original Report

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Another tierlist thead - middle starter evo edition

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:40:38 No.57599875 Report

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>>57599872
I tend to judge a good middle evo on how simultaneously cool yet still adolescent feeling it is. Some of these fit that metric but I still think they're ugly and stupid regardless though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:41:42 No.57599882 Report

Quoted By: >>57599902 >>57599921

Alright anons, you know the drill by now. Post it.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:46:45 No.57599899 Report

Quoted By: >>57599912 >>57600310 >>57600452

>>57599872
Always love middle-evo threads

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:46:50 No.57599902 Report

Quoted By: >>57599911

>>57599882
why are you telling other people to post theirs while not posting your own

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:47:47 No.57599911 Report

Quoted By: >>57600429

>>57599902
Oh that's not what I was insinuating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:47:52 No.57599912 Report

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>>57599899
we have very similar tastes. I can't get past how goofy marshtomp looks though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 22:50:58 No.57599921 Report

Quoted By: >>57600435 >>57600452

>>57599872
>>57599882
k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 23:33:26 No.57600171 Report

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>>57599912
goofy face but he still cute

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Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 23:41:08 No.57600203 Report

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>>57599872
That was easy

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Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 23:48:29 No.57600246 Report

Quoted By: >>57600251 >>57600310

>>57599872

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 23:49:33 No.57600251 Report

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>>57600246
>Braixen in the bottom tier
Based as fuck

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Anonymous Sat 22 Mar 2025 23:54:20 No.57600268 Report

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>>57599872
Here is mine

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:00:00 No.57600298 Report

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>>57599872
A middle evo's job is to bridge a gap, so that's how I've ranked them. Personal preference would be wildly different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:02:53 No.57600310 Report

Quoted By: >>57600357 >>57600370 >>57600443 >>57602858

>>57599872
>>57599899
>>57600246
>>57600268
>>57600298
Surprised at the amount of dislike for combusken. I never knew it was so unpopular

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:11:15 No.57600357 Report

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>>57600310
I don’t dislike it. It just exists to me. Doesn’t help that it looks like a cock in multiple ways lol. Did like May’s a good bit in the anime though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:14:04 No.57600370 Report

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>>57600310
I don't dislike Combusken, I just don't like it that much

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:14:13 No.57600374 Report

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:15:12 No.57600377 Report

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Many great ones ended up in A solely because their final evo retroactively sours them for me, like Torracat.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:21:18 No.57600406 Report

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:25:25 No.57600429 Report

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>>57599911
no one knows what you were insinuating

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:26:25 No.57600435 Report

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>>57599921
why are your paldea starter desaturated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:27:33 No.57600443 Report

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>>57600310
i dislike birds in general and combusken is shaped like a penis so that doesn't help

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:29:17 No.57600452 Report

Quoted By: >>57600489 >>57600508 >>57600634

>>57599899
>>57599921
>>57600203
what's the rationale behind the frogadier hate? I genuinely think it's close to the best designed one on the list

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:35:42 No.57600489 Report

Quoted By: >>57600508

>>57600452
I don't hate it. I just don't find it interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:39:35 No.57600508 Report

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>>57600452
This >>57600489
Also its the poofyness of his scarf, looks like a cloud or loose cotton or somthing, doesnt sit quite right with me.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:40:44 No.57600515 Report

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:49:58 No.57600560 Report

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 00:58:45 No.57600607 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 01:03:02 No.57600634 Report

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>>57600452
I do not like it's head shape and the mask thingy. I don't like greninja line in general so don't take it too personally

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 01:06:10 No.57600649 Report

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>>57600607
wrong thread dipshit

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 01:08:21 No.57600667 Report

Quoted By: >>57600691 >>57605572

>>57599872

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 01:14:58 No.57600688 Report

Quoted By: >>57600696 >>57601157

>>57600649
Now now, no need to get your dick in a knot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 01:16:08 No.57600691 Report

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>>57600667
this is a fun idea. I cannot wrap my head around liking Brionne over either of its other stages though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 01:17:10 No.57600696 Report

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>>57600688
oh god and your taste sucks too. please exit the thread, you've failed at every step here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 01:22:53 No.57600720 Report

Quoted By: >>57600757 >>57602720

Why don't people like Crokonaw? Is it because it's too different from the other two stages? Personally i really like it, it really stands out on its own

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 01:30:54 No.57600757 Report

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>>57600720
It's just kinda meh for me.
I put him in upper D tier, but really i could bump him up to lower B and it wouldnt really make much difference, because i dont have a strong enough opinion on him.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 02:35:48 No.57601039 Report

Quoted By: >>57601086

for me, it's dartrix

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 02:44:20 No.57601086 Report

Quoted By: >>57601514 >>57602623

>>57601039
Finally another Dartrix fan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 03:05:15 No.57601157 Report

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>>57600688
>Crocalor number 1
How on earth does someone have that bad of taste?

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 03:53:32 No.57601372 Report

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>>57599872
Sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 04:30:52 No.57601514 Report

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>>57601086
oh yes brother, we're out here

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 06:13:48 No.57601778 Report

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>>57599872
I didn't realize how much middle evo starters sucked. The nailed it with Charmeleon and Wartortle first shot, but then they couldn't really consistently recapture that magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 13:58:13 No.57602623 Report

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>>57601086
yeah, she was in my favorites list before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 14:35:54 No.57602720 Report

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>>57600720
for me, it's because the mohawk hair and caveman pattern.
neither Totodile nor Feraligatr had caveman theme

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 14:51:06 No.57602775 Report

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>>57599872
Shit taste coming through.
The "fine" ones are mons I still kinda like but don't find as interesting as their evos and pre-evos. This list isn't static, if I'll be honest - kinda changes with mood.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 15:11:59 No.57602858 Report

Quoted By: >>57603140 >>57604748

>>57599872
Here goes...
>>57600310
Just doesn't appeal to me as much as the others.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 15:49:39 No.57602975 Report

Quoted By: >>57603238 >>57603746 >>57603854

we all know it's you samefagging ivycuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 16:26:26 No.57603140 Report

Quoted By: >>57604631

>>57602858
I think you're the first person to have quilladin that high. What about it appeals to you? I personally can't stand it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 16:42:40 No.57603238 Report

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>>57602975
meds

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 16:44:10 No.57603242 Report

Quoted By: >>57603351 >>57604748

I almost forgot to put Brionne on this list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 17:04:11 No.57603351 Report

Quoted By: >>57604843

>>57603242
dewott hate is crazy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 18:12:54 No.57603746 Report

Quoted By: >>57603775 >>57603854 >>57604631

>>57602975
Yeah, there cannot actually be that many S tier Ivy rankings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 18:21:29 No.57603775 Report

Quoted By: >>57603787 >>57603812

>>57603746
Why not? Do people think Ivysaur is a bad midstage?

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 18:23:04 No.57603783 Report

Quoted By: >>57604748

>>57599872
I really value mid stages that can both stand on their own and act as proper lead-ins to their evos either design-wise or thematically. That said, some of these are too fucking ugly. I still like most of them though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 18:23:27 No.57603787 Report

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>>57603775
I'm a gen 1 fag, and I don't really like Ivy or Venu even though I picked Bulbasaur as my first starter, which I still like to this day. Bulbasaur only gets worse as it evolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 18:29:42 No.57603812 Report

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>>57603775
don't reply to known trolls

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 18:32:42 No.57603823 Report

Quoted By: >>57603985 >>57604748

Typical Grassfag list, I'd say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 18:39:57 No.57603854 Report

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>>57602975
>>57603746
I put Ivy in S, but I wouldn't say I absolutely adore it. It's actually my least favorite of that evo line, I just really love the Bulbasaur line as a whole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 19:06:29 No.57603985 Report

Quoted By: >>57603992

>>57603823
what do you have against servine and dewott? They seem really out of place surrounded compared to the rest of that tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 19:08:17 No.57603992 Report

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>>57603985
Oh I hate all the Unova starters. Pignite by itself is a little less egregious but it still barely keeps pace with Croconaw and the rest of that tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 21:42:37 No.57604631 Report

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>>57603140
> What about it appeals to you?
I enjoy the design and overall concept of it, though mind that I'm probably one of very few to have the entire line as a top favourite.

Shame about the absolute shafting it got amidst the shilling of everything else.
>>57603746
I just really like it, simple as.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 21:45:20 No.57604643 Report

Quoted By: >>57604891

I hate the cat starters final evos, their middle stage is way better.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:06:32 No.57604748 Report

Quoted By: >>57604843 >>57605070 >>57605091 >>57606825

Wartortle will forever be my favorite Pokemon, and I will be forever mad that Game Freak didn't go with the look-alike design for mega blastoise.
I'm also one of those people who love Torracat but hate Incineroar.

>>57603823
Pretty good list, one of the better ones in the thread!
I am a bit appalled that you rate Brionne so "high".
>>57603783
I agree with your comment, but then I look at your list and it doesn't click for me. It seems like being ugly isn't a true factor for you if the design is unique enough on its own.
Though for me, the design is ugly if I don't associate the character with being a Pokemon.
>>57603242
This is also fairly solid.
>>57602858
I don't understand why people like the scrobunny line at all.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:21:32 No.57604843 Report

Quoted By: >>57604850 >>57604891

>>57603351
I don't hate it or Samurott, I just don't really care for the Unovan starters, it's especially sad Pignite and Emboar hogged the Fighting type, because Samurott absolutely looks like a Water/Fighting Pokemon.
>>57604748
Pretty much every single one of Mega Blastoise's beta designs looks infinitely more interesting than what we got, Mega Blastoise has a really retarded face. We could have gotten fancy French moustache blastoise or even Blasthanos, but nope.
Also danke anon, pretty solid picks as well.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:22:49 No.57604850 Report

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>>57604843

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:30:22 No.57604891 Report

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>>57604643
Didn't refresh when I posted, so didn't see you.
This is pretty good, but I don't like the bunnies, or everything after Rowlet in it's line.
>>57604843
Agreed.
I remember this board exists one every 4 years or so, wish I was here when these leaks dropped.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:44:11 No.57604973 Report

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repostan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 22:53:09 No.57605022 Report

Quoted By: >>57607002

>57604973
Posted early on accident, here are some rankings
no (You)s because I got hit with the spam filter bullshit

>57599872
another Frogadier enjoyer :)
It’s weird, our taste is either almost the same or very different

>57599899
same anon, wish there were more of them. These guys are really under appreciated.
I gotta say though your taste really sucks
at least it’s unique though

>57600298
interesting way of ranking things, what would your personal preference look like?

>57600377
yeah, that always sucks :(
hoping Litten gets some kind of non-Incineroar final evolution in the future. Please. Anything. I love it so much

>57601372
a man with very good taste

>57602775
pretty sure everyone’s tier lists mostly depend on how they’re feeling, don’t worry about it anon

>57602858
what’s so offensive about Servine?

>57603783
same, it’s my main criteria. If it can stand on its own while also fitting within the line it’s golden. I can also appreciate the weird one-offs that don’t really fit at all though, if only for the change of pace

>57603823
anon, you have more fire types in your higher tiers than grass types

>57604643
100% agree, Meowscarada is a scourge and Incineroar is a travesty

>57604748
another opinion I agree with, though honestly Torracat is kind of pushing it
I’d like it a lot more if the body was more proportionate (less emphasis on the forearms and shoulders, just looks weird) and it didn’t have a random floating orb in the middle of its neck. I know it’s meant to look like a cat collar, but it doesn’t fit and it’s really rather awkward

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 23:03:06 No.57605070 Report

Quoted By: >>57605091 >>57605210

>>57604748
Well, to be fair, Brionne isn't that "high". My list is ordered all the way through "Not Bad" but the lower tiers are less ordered and things can change pretty easily.
Maybe I should've put a disclaimer that Brionne is is only serviceable as a female starter but I genuinely don't *hate* it. It's alright, it's there and everyone knows the real objective is to get to Primarina, anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 23:06:52 No.57605091 Report

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>>57604748
>>57605070
Ah, forgot to mention that your list is pretty solid. Kind of shocking that Grovile is that low given how popular it is with the fanbase at large, but I can't really fault your list in anyway. Good job.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 23:08:44 No.57605099 Report

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>>57599872

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 23:10:58 No.57605110 Report

Quoted By: >>57605113

>>57605099
>Bayleaf in faggot
>while soccer bunny and emo lizard are in A

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 23:11:34 No.57605113 Report

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>>57605110
Yes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 23:28:05 No.57605210 Report

Quoted By: >>57605222 >>57605529

>>57605070
I think mine and most anon's issue with Brionne is that it doesn't look like it came from Poplio, you have this cute seal pup that randomly becomes extremely effeminate and in it's final stage has trannie colors, maybe it's just coincidence but still. Not helped that a lot of people expected Poplio to evolve into something with clown or circus inspirations given it was shown balancing bubbles. I don't even hate Primarina, but the way the line was handled was pretty crap, Gamefreak should have done male and female variants for certain starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 23:31:16 No.57605222 Report

Quoted By: >>57605626

>>57605210
That's understandable. I absolutely adore Rowlet and Decidueye, but dislike Dartrix, so I get people having issue with just a single point in the evo line. I'm probaby just not attached enough to Popplio and/or Prima to be that "offended" by Brionne, I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 00:24:04 No.57605529 Report

Quoted By: >>57605626

>>57605210
>getting rid of my femboy Pokemon because you can't stand animals not conforming to human standards of gender stereotypes
Horrible idea

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 00:28:39 No.57605572 Report

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>>57600667
Suppose I should do an actual list

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 00:35:33 No.57605626 Report

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>>57605222
Understandable, I also don't get why Dartrix randomly has a fancy lad look when neither Rowlet or Decidueye have that going for them, it's not like middle stage starters developing features that go nowhere or get removed on evolution is a new thing, but it's just odd.
>>57605529
Trump won.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 00:42:53 No.57605674 Report

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>>57599872
ok now what

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 00:48:53 No.57605717 Report

Quoted By: >>57605769

>>57599872

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 00:49:48 No.57605720 Report

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>>57599872

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 00:58:00 No.57605769 Report

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>>57605717
you and I could not have more differing tastes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 05:07:12 No.57606825 Report

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>>57604748
I don't really get the hate for it, aside from the "bipedal therefore bad" meme.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 05:58:00 No.57607002 Report

Quoted By: >>57607911

>>57605022
>I gotta say though your taste really sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 12:09:29 No.57607911 Report

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>>57607002
yourself included

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