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Pokémon Maker

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 04:34:32 No.57709413 View View Reply Original Report

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Mario Maker was a huge success. With all the vivid Poké mods out there and the relative success of RPG Maker, it's a no brainer that an official take would be an instant best seller.

Let's pretend that (You) are on the development planning team. Help throw Game Freak/TPC the winning pitch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 04:40:04 No.57709438 Report

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>>57709413
If this were to be a thing and for it to be successful, it would have to be outsourced to another studio to handle. After seeing how trash SV turned out, them making something like this would be a worldwide catastrophe for Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 04:45:25 No.57709454 Report

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>>57709413
Mario Maker is 99% dogshit levels flooding the algorithm and the ability to find decent levels.
Pokemon Maker would be even worse. Just make ROM Hacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 04:47:12 No.57709458 Report

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Have the Switch make their parental controls useful. Don't outright deny creativity if the script is not detected [E]SRB. Handle public or private distribution with a more intuitive approach than le' mandated E rated TOS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 04:51:50 No.57709476 Report

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>>57709454
It's a lot harder to mess up top-down game design. The worst you can do is gay puzzles and retarded encounter distribution. And the last two gens already do the latter.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 05:03:35 No.57709508 Report

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>show game a complete regional pokedex from any game
>new game rewards you with regional template
>now you can make your own story in that said region without having to replicate it from scratch

It always felt empty to complete the Pokédex and not get anything else out of it. That would be the most kino way to tie everything together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 05:28:33 No.57709597 Report

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>>57709476
It's just going to be mostly idiots scribbling random blocks across the screen for 10 seconds then submitting it. Like Mario Maker.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 05:37:51 No.57709616 Report

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>>57709413
Pokemon is too slow of a game to have a maker game work.
A good Mario Maker level is pretty snappy. A level can't be more than 9 minutes, and there's pretty much no sunk cost to moving on to a new level.
A Pokemon game? That's gonna be, at absolute bare minimum, 20 minutes. I'm not spending that time on little timmy's Pokemon Event Horizon.
The closest thing you could get would be like the battle CDs in XD. Mini puzzles that use the battle system with preset Pokemon. But that would not capture the audience's imagination much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 06:55:25 No.57709815 Report

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>>57709413
How'd that work?

You make a wholeass game?

Mario Maker was just levels, eventually 2 added worlds but it was just a string of levels

A Zelda maker is more likely as you can easily just design a simple dungeon.

Pokémon maker would require you to design towns, routes, trainers, encounters, dungeons, gyms etc.
It'd be way too much work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 07:17:53 No.57709870 Report

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>>57709815
That didn't stop talentless hacks from buying RPG Makers back in the day.
>can't make a game?
>Skill issue
>No refunds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 07:32:45 No.57709911 Report

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>>57709616
On the contrary, between that and Gen 3's Trick House there's probably something to explore there. I've also thought about how a mission based structure could be applied to Pokemon, although the big benefit of that sort of structure is the rating you receive for good play and Pokemon unfortunately has some contradictory features there (catching Pokemon wastes time, turns, and resources, the conservation of which is usually the goal of high level play in other games).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 07:50:05 No.57709935 Report

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>>57709413
Way too ambitious. Making an entire RPG is magnitudes more effort than just making platformer levels. There are already romhacking tools and RPG maker suites for Pokemon that are just about as simple to use as anything could be, and still only a handful of fangames ever get completed. Would having an official version of Essentials really change anything? Doubtful. It's a fun idea but it's just not realistic.

I think something more grounded would be a gym designing feature, kind of expanding on what you could do with secret bases in ORAS. You could set up a little puzzle and some trainers for people to beat. I think that's about the extent of what a creation tool in Pokemon could realistically be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 07:52:04 No.57709942 Report

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>>57709476
a Pokemon game is more than just maps though. sure anybody could slap together a top-down map. but an RPG has dialogue, story events, NPC flags, a level curve, and a lot of other moving parts for it to be anything substantial. it's more complicated than you're making it out to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 07:52:31 No.57709944 Report

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>>57709616
>>57709815
This. It's unrealistic to expect the average player to put the time into building a full rpg, or to download and play other's submissions for more than a few minutes. At most I could see them doing a gym creator, basically oras secret bases on steroids.
>set up a puzzle with a bunch of preset tiles like ice sliding or teleporters
>decorate it with different wall/floor tiles and furniture
>add effects like weather and lighting
>design a badge by layering shapes like those call of duty emblems
>place trainers and the leader in the gym
>assign each of them a trainer sprite
>build their teams
>unlock stuff by beating other people's gyms
>get some kind of unique reward for other players losing to your gym to encourage putting thought into it
>get a different (possibly better) kind of reward for others defeating your gym to disincentivise building impossible gyms
Not sure if connecting to home so you can go on your own gym challenge adventure with your bros or having the gym creators assign rental teams so the battles can be a creative part of the puzzle too rather than challengers just crushing everything with a full team of legendaries would be better. Maybe make it some kind of rule system where the gym can allow or ban certain things like level caps and item clauses, but then you run the risk of players not having eligible teams ready so you'd have to have rentals available. But allowing the option to choose either leads to the balance getting thrown off for imported teams by legal but unforeseen options making it easier than intended with the rentals or much harder because it was designed around the rentals only, and forcing preset rentals becomes limiting on the challenger's end. Which would work best would depend entirely on what kind of players are active and what specific goals the game as a whole is aiming to achieve.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 07:52:56 No.57709945 Report

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>>57709413
Those were cute, it sucks they removed them in Maker 2

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 10:55:00 No.57710268 Report

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>>57709413
the average mario level takes you less than 10 minutes
the average pokemon game takes you 40 hours

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