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Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:23:18 No.57919908 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>57919926 >>57919932 >>57919950 >>57920274 >>57920632 >>57921554 >>57922779 >>57922912 >>57922982 >>57923227 >>57923395

This shit honestly ruins Unova

The only good/original mons in the entire game and they all have ridiculous evo levels (AND you can't even get them until right before the E4)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:27:05 No.57919926 Report

Quoted By: >>57919935

>>57919908
>makes the game harder
>you get to keep lower stages for longer
win-win

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:29:06 No.57919932 Report

Quoted By: >>57920210

>>57919908
>The only good/original mons in the entire game
that's the bait part, anyway those are like 4/5 mons, it's not a big issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:31:24 No.57919935 Report

Quoted By: >>57919941

>>57919926
>you have to keep them for way longer than they're useful with their abysmal BST
>and when they do evolve there'll be barely anything left to use them on before postgame
>assuming they even evolve before reaching the league proper
>also this assumes you're mad enough to actually use them for most of their evolution grind instead of just boxing them until you get far enough to where grinding for their evo levels finally becomes reasonable, because otherwise they're just not worth a teamslot
come the FUCK on retardnigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:32:56 No.57919941 Report

Quoted By: >>57919947

>>57919935
>with their abysmal BST
This game introduces eviolite

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:33:02 No.57919943 Report

Quoted By: >>57919994

I think evolutions should be high actually, I always found it lame how little time you spend with non fully evolved pokemon in these games
I also think it's lame how the series has gone on for over 25 years and the final boss levels are still pretty much identical to the first game in the series especially with how much more exp gets pumped out to your team in modern games, the games really need to start pushing for longer campaigns with higher level thresholds

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Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:35:13 No.57919947 Report

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>>57919941
good luck knocking out anything in a reasonable amount of time with unevolved mons' low attack stats compared to literally anything else you could be using
if anything they'll just take more damage than evolved mons with comparable defensive stats after eviolite, due to lower speed resulting in moving last more often and lower attacks meaning foes take more hits to knock out, letting them get off more hits

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:36:33 No.57919950 Report

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>>57919908
I kinda understand why they did it. Your pokemon evolving is always an hype moment and in previous game you basically had all your team fully evolved by the 5th or 6th gym so having pokemon evolving late allow you to have the hype of having a mon evolving even late into the game. But then there is the problem of having a NFE with bad stat in your team so they need to be put late into the game to not have you having a shitmon for most of your playthrough. Honestly they should have made all of them a 3 stage evo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:38:25 No.57919953 Report

Quoted By: >>57919957 >>57920210

Bonus, postgame-exclusive mons are prefectly fine actually. It's only bad when it carries on to another gen where they're likely easier to get

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:42:03 No.57919957 Report

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>>57919953
This. GF should retcon some levels

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 19:56:05 No.57919994 Report

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>>57919943
That'd be more effort so will never happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 21:03:33 No.57920210 Report

Quoted By: >>57920216 >>57920266

>>57919932
>>57919953
So Houndour and Larvitar in Kanto are a good thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 21:04:39 No.57920216 Report

Quoted By: >>57920233

>>57920210
The problem there is that you find them at low levels

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 21:10:57 No.57920233 Report

Quoted By: >>57920238

>>57920216
Houndour evolves in Houndoom as low as 24 lmao
Also Larvitar is available halfway through Crystal at level 40, 15 levels away from Tyranitar.
Deino you catch at 40 in BW, 24 levels away from Hydreigon.
Stop being a hypocrite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 21:13:08 No.57920238 Report

Quoted By: >>57920261

>>57920233
You catch Deino at level 40 while your team is around 40
You catch Houndour at level 20 while your team is around 40
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 21:17:56 No.57920261 Report

Quoted By: >>57922943

>>57920238
A good player knows how to bring lower leveled mons up to the rest of his team. Don't blame the game for your own inadequacies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 21:19:31 No.57920266 Report

Quoted By: >>57920280

>>57920210
NTA but imo the alternative (no new mons in Kanto) is worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 21:20:59 No.57920274 Report

Quoted By: >>57920288

>>57919908
just another problem from the region being linear dogshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 21:21:58 No.57920276 Report

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>mons you find later in the game require more effort to evolve
Shocking, I know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 21:22:37 No.57920280 Report

Quoted By: >>57922760

>>57920266
they should've put the new mons in johto and then have "new" old mons in kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 21:24:14 No.57920288 Report

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>>57920274
hi yawnfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 23:26:00 No.57920632 Report

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>>57919908
>another whiny assmad unova complaint thread.
Get some new material

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 05:42:19 No.57921554 Report

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>>57919908
nah I like this

grind or go home

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 17:45:10 No.57922760 Report

Quoted By: >>57922766

>>57920280
What's a new old mon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 17:47:37 No.57922766 Report

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>>57922760
old mons that you find for the first time in the new game

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Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 17:53:12 No.57922779 Report

Quoted By: >>57922786 >>57923440

>>57919908
>This shit honestly ruins Unova
More than the terrible graphics, awful music, the worst starters, legends and dex of all time? The failed gimmicks of dream world, black city and white forest? Worse than the arbitrarily locked Hard Mode? The weak champions, forgettable characters, and the ridiculous Mary Sue who talks to animals hogging the plot?

Face it, Bortnova has bigger problems than late evos. There's a reason it's widely acknowledged as the worst generation.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 17:56:45 No.57922786 Report

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>>57922779
>Mary Sue
Most literate yawninfant

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 18:39:48 No.57922912 Report

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>>57919908
I remember when the full dex was first posted online, I had planned a team literally with Braviary, Volcarona, Hydreigon and Bouffalant. I was so disappointed when I found out they're only catchable after badge 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 18:49:01 No.57922943 Report

Quoted By: >>57922947

>>57920261
A good game designer knows how to let the player progress without grinding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 18:50:26 No.57922947 Report

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>>57922943
You don't need to grind to get your Houndoom up to level of the rest of your team. Unless you're bad at the game, that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 19:05:45 No.57922982 Report

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>>57919908
It mostly feels lame because they also feed you a lot of stuff that hits a high 400s BST final at like level 20, or that has a third stage that's friendship or a stone or the magnezone thing, which is what you actually use. Then maybe you powerlevel 1-2 of the late bloomers for the E4. They need to change the ecosystem so second stage stuff is what you actually use if they're going to stretch out the evo levels. As it is everything that evolves at around level 50 and isn't Garchomp-tier feels like an insult, never mind shit like Hydreigon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 20:36:08 No.57923227 Report

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>>57919908
And they'll still drop the birds in the earlygame of new gens for who knows what reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 21:30:44 No.57923395 Report

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>>57919908
BW2 rectified most of these. Braviary and Mandibuzz can be caught as version exclusive fixed spawns in Route 4 once a week. Volcarona can be caught in the Relic Castle through an alternate enterance. Pawniard evolves late, but you'll probably have Bisharp during the Giant Chasm, possibly even before your last badge if you're playing on challenge mode due to the increased EXP. Every Unova pokemon except Hydreigon is a viable option.

Deino should have just been locked to a postgame area like Larvitar. A 5% swirling dust spawn at the end of Victory Road would have also been acceptable. Making Hydreigon catchable in XY's Victory Road was really cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Jun 2025 21:47:59 No.57923440 Report

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>>57922779
>and the ridiculous Mary Sue who talks to animals hogging the plot?
The one who loses to you five times over the course of the game? The one whose entire character arc is coming to terms with the fact that his worldview on how people and pokemon are incompatible is not only flawed, but repeatedly disproven throughout the story? Some Gary Stu he is

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