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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 18:32:22 No.57961287 View View Reply Original Report

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>There is no official way to watch this episode as it was censored because it features Jynx with black skin.
This is so stupid, couldn't they just paint Jynx's skin purple in the few frames she appears?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 18:40:12 No.57961312 Report

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>>57961287
They censored an episode because of a fucking gun, when this has been done for years

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 18:42:16 No.57961319 Report

Quoted By: >>57963235

4kids was always retarded when it came to censorship
I always wonder how they would have handled One Piece if they managed to get to Enies Lobby or Marineford

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 18:44:48 No.57961326 Report

Quoted By: >>57961340

>>57961287
Imagine how history would have changed if Jynx and Machamp had exchanged colors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 18:47:15 No.57961332 Report

Quoted By: >>57961428 >>57961471 >>57963270

>>57961287
I think the real stupid thing is that Pokemon to this day still hasn't done official subbed releases of the anime.
I can understand maybe not wanting to go through all the old shit but not even for the newly released episodes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 18:52:08 No.57961340 Report

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>>57961326
now give him red lips

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:11:54 No.57961399 Report

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>>57961340

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:24:16 No.57961424 Report

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>>57961287
They did for the Japanese versions. What's stupid is that these edits haven't been transferred to the dub.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:24:39 No.57961428 Report

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>>57961332
the anime is for kids and kids don't watch subbed stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:30:53 No.57961442 Report

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>>57961428
Just this week they announced Detective Conan is going to start releasing on Crunchyroll so it really does seem like Pokemon's just refusing to get with the times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:33:02 No.57961450 Report

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>>57961287
I've never bothered to check, but is Jynx inspired by some Japanese folklore shit?
As racist as asians are, I still feel like it wasnt a blackface pokemon by intention

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:35:26 No.57961452 Report

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>>57961450
She's a Yama Uba mix with Gyaru fashion subtype Yamamba

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:36:07 No.57961456 Report

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>>57961450
That and gen 1 they just did whatever and didn't think things were going to pop off like it did. It's like how celebs and e-celebs only say the wildest shit before their careers begin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:40:31 No.57961471 Report

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>>57961332
just show tpc doesnt give a shit to pokemon anime in the west

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:41:46 No.57961474 Report

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>>57961287
in japan they just changed jynx color and jynx has not appeared in the anime since battle fromtier episode lol

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:45:20 No.57961482 Report

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>>57961450
I wouldn't say that asians are racist per se, they're just far less neurotic about offending people.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:45:58 No.57961486 Report

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>>57961450
She is a mountain yokai. Her hair can be white or platinum blonde. Her kimono is tattered and red with the blood of her victims.

She can be benign or malignant depending on the story. Smuchum is based on the baby Kintaro, who was raised by one of these yokai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:50:52 No.57961497 Report

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>>57961452
>>57961486
Neat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 19:53:01 No.57961505 Report

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>>57961486
>Smoochum is based on the baby Kintaro

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 20:16:55 No.57961585 Report

Quoted By: >>57961710

>>57961287
>This is so stupid, couldn't they just paint Jynx's skin purple in the few frames she appears?
...anon, they literally did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 20:18:05 No.57961588 Report

Quoted By: >>57963236

>>57961442
Fucking Chibi Maruko-chan is on Crunchyroll, and the target audience for that is considerably younger than Pokemon's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 20:55:40 No.57961710 Report

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>>57961585
well, TPC are just lazy fucks for not applying this to the dub.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 20:57:17 No.57961714 Report

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>>57961710
>>57961471

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 21:00:36 No.57961723 Report

Quoted By: >>57961771

all the censored episodes could easily be fixed with cheap edits in order to air them, except maybe the beach episode. They just don't care

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 21:15:01 No.57961771 Report

Quoted By: >>57963242 >>57963609

>>57961723
Why is that episode banned? It can't be because of the scene with James' fake tits because that part was edited out from the dub version in the first place. I've seen some people mention it's because of how Misty is lusted after or "objectified" in the episode, but 4kids kept all the other instances like it from other episodes aside from the kangaskhan kid asking to suck her boobs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 06:56:24 No.57963235 Report

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>>57961319
they didn't even want to do One Piece. Toei forced them to take the license so they could get the license for I think Kinnikuman. Toei told them to do to One Piece what they had done to Pokemon and YuGiOh in the hopes OP would be as big of a success as the other two were. 4kids' deal with WB was only for Saturday mornings, which had a younger target demographic than primetime blocs like Toonami. They had no choice. I think remember reading they made it as awful as possible so Toei would pull the license and give it to someone who could actually do the series justice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 06:57:24 No.57963236 Report

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>>57961588
the people watching it in the west aren't going to be little kids and you know it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 07:00:20 No.57963242 Report

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>>57961771
it isn't any one scene, it's that the whole episode is like that. the FCC is notoriously fickle, they might let one scene or line wink and nudge slip through because it doesn't linger on it, but when the whole episode is about girls in bikinis and guys being perverts then it's going to bother somebody.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 07:22:25 No.57963270 Report

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>>57961332
>>57961428
>>57961442
They subbed the first waves of news videos about Horizons, they have the capability to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 07:34:18 No.57963287 Report

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>>57961287
It wouldn't be good enough, Jynx has effectively been blacklisted from the anime even after it was turned purple.
The controversy's lingering sting on the franchise as "Pokemon is... RACIST!?!?!?" from Americans was bad enough that they scrapped any plans of making Mega Jynx period, and that's probably why we got Mr. Rime, another Ice/Psychic related to a Gen 1 humanoid, as a result.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 07:45:00 No.57963304 Report

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>>57963287
nobody actually thought Jynx was racist. it was one black woman who had made a career out of filing frivolous racial discrimination lawsuits hoping for a big payout from a company wanting her to go away.
Good on shueisha for not taking a knee and keeping Mr Popo black.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 07:46:43 No.57963306 Report

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>>57963304
Either way, it was damning enough that what I said still happened.
It's unironically even worse a case than Porygon, who at least still gets love and attention in the games and spinoffs. Jynx doesn't get shit aside from everyone begrudgingly going "...oh yeah, this thing's part of the original 151... alright... guess we gotta put her in... sigh..."

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 07:51:36 No.57963311 Report

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>>57963306
it wasn't damning. All they had to do was say "we ain't changing it" and nothing would've happened. I bring up Popo because the woman tried the same thing with Toei around the same time and they told her to pound sand. She knew her suit had no merit, it was purely a PR attack. TPC and 4kids are/were cowards too concerned with their family image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 07:53:59 No.57963318 Report

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>>57963311
But by deciding "yep, she's got a point, we're not saying 'fuck off' and blacklisting Jynx indefinitely" it IS damning in Pokemon's case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 08:06:15 No.57963344 Report

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>>57963318
it's damning in the sense it speaks to the strength of their backbone to defend their creatives' talents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 08:09:44 No.57963351 Report

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>>57961450
>>57961482
>>57961486

No one ever gave a fuck about blackface, it was so irrelevant to the minds of actual people that Nintendo saw Jynx and didn't even think there was gonna be an issue.

Being offended by blackface is a modern invention born out of resentment and jealously. As Schopenhauer said, people are easily offended because they take reality personal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 11:06:11 No.57963609 Report

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>>57961771
It's not "banned", it was just dubbed as a standalone special, so the dub doesn't treat it as "part of the series". This happened with the mega specials from XY too, which is why a lot of countries never got them.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 11:34:25 No.57963646 Report

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>>57961450
No. That was just people speculating for years because they assumed it had to be based off something. Once we got the gen 1 production leaks, it became a lot more obvious: There was originally a third ice counterpart of Magmar/Electabuzz based off pic related from Ultraman. Jynx was meant to be a female counterpart to it.

That's why it has the "blackface".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 12:09:31 No.57963694 Report

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>>57963646
Which then became Tangela....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jul 2025 22:17:45 No.57965151 Report

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>>57963646
Don't pass off your speculation as fact, pal.

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