>>57982386>Flooding our population centers with cheap labor is not a good thing.Sure but I don't think that's a high priority issue, especially when it's going to happen whether you like it or not. American companies outsource their labor all the time, it's capitalism. I'm not Californian, but I know it's a bigger blue state than even the blue states that don't border Mexico, which is also in part why I don't consider it severe. Not to mention, the notion of open borders is blind to whether they get here legally or illegally, since either way they're coming in. You have to ask yourself why they'd be coming in illegally. Some are doing it for bad reasons, but others are coming under duress because of threat of violence or to seek a better life for their loved ones and the longer they wait the greater chance they're killed. Some months ago, a mayor in Mexico was beheaded for taking a stance against the cartel. More good-intentioned people than bad ones would be the ones desperately trying to escape life there, whereas the bad ones would feel more welcome enough to stay there.
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>>57982434 at the same time, that's not only an issue of legality. It's multi-faceted. Like, blacks are a constant subject of slums, crime, etc and have been here for hundreds of years. It's just a general statistical inevitability that the more the population grows, the more jobs you'll be competing over, the more crime that can happen, etc. People gloss over every good well-behaved entrant just to focus on the bad as if the immigration is specifically to blame for their problems. Even if you kicked all the illegal immigrants out, the narrative would just shift to someone else to blame, i.e. the legal immigrants, then 1st generationers, etc. This is a tale as old as Ellis Island. Italian and Irish people were the Mexican people back then with Americans unwelcoming to them entering the country. It's why I see illegals as bad on paper sure but not worth a bad president to stop.
