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Anonymous Tue 08 Jul 2025 23:26:29 No.57982999 View View Reply Original Report

Why would they let turner spitted on kanto’s legacy with these

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jul 2025 23:28:17 No.57983006 Report

Quoted By: >>57983040

>>57982999
Most of these are just bad designs no matter how they're made

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jul 2025 23:28:56 No.57983010 Report

Quoted By: >>57983378 >>57983722 >>57984818

Your boogyman didn't work at Game Freak until 2007 son. That was Nip Freak's own work.
As to why, just look at the fucking things, small wonder they tried to make people give a fuck about them. No-one gave a shit about them in Gen 1.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jul 2025 23:31:45 No.57983016 Report

Quoted By: >>57983040 >>57983042 >>57984517

>>57982999
he didn't design any of these, obsessed retard. also magnezone is a vast improvement, electivire and tangrowth are still good, both lickitung and lickilicki look like shit, and the only good part of the magmar line is magby. rhyperior does suck major ass i'll give you that one. very notable that you omitted the coolest gen 1 cross gen evo though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jul 2025 23:37:23 No.57983036 Report

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>>57982999
Magnezone is a sidegrade, Electivire is better, nobody cared about Tangela and Lickitung, and Rhyperior/Magmortar are downgrades
Average all around

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jul 2025 23:38:26 No.57983040 Report

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>>57982999
Based ESL telling it como es
>>57983006
Truth

>>57983016
I don't like Porygon-Z for the same reason I don't like Arctovish, can't stand when their heads are upside down, so I still prefer Porygon2

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jul 2025 23:38:49 No.57983042 Report

Quoted By: >>57983070 >>57983126

>>57983016
OP likely isn’t include it because it evolves from Porygon 2, a gen 2 Pokémon. Ironically Z probably would make more sense as a branched evolution directly from Porygon but it is what it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jul 2025 23:49:59 No.57983070 Report

Quoted By: >>57983092

>>57983042
Not really. Apart from the obvious fact it's a reference to how 3D effects progressed IRL alongside the game's development, file sharing apps were ubiquitous in the 00's and opening a dodgy file from them could nuke your computer (just as the Dubious Disc glitched your pokémon out).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jul 2025 23:58:32 No.57983092 Report

Quoted By: >>57983124

>>57983070
>Game Freak never gave Porygon a true new evolution to parallel modern game development

Either Pikachu REALLY cucked this line or even Game Freak realized how badly gaming stagnated in the 2010s

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 00:04:10 No.57983112 Report

Quoted By: >>57983257

>>57982999
Lickilicky is rad and only bitches hate him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 00:07:34 No.57983124 Report

Quoted By: >>57983151

>>57983092
I think it's because Rotom kind of replaced Porygon as the defacto digital pokemon. All the modern places Porygon would fit, Rotom was already chosen to be put there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 00:07:50 No.57983126 Report

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>>57983042
Z is a distorted 2 it makes much more sense to be its evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 00:11:03 No.57983134 Report

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>>57982999
I like 3 out of those
Magnezone could do without the bolts on his shoulders(?)
Rhyperior needs the top of his head fixed it looks like the world's worst haircut. give it ears at the very least

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 00:14:55 No.57983151 Report

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>>57983124
i love both of these mons and i wish they'd do something like have an inuniverse rivalry with them. like say silph co can be putting out porygon products whereas devon corp puts out rotom products. just make the products less like actual smartphones if it'd be too real.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 00:53:59 No.57983257 Report

Quoted By: >>57983265 >>57983269 >>57983492 >>57983495

>>57983112
More power to you for liking him but let's not pretend that people don't have good reason for hating him.

Lickitung was clearly meant to be seen as an unsettling Japanese monster with its blank stare (at least in the first couple of seasons in the anime) and disproportionally long and grotesque nonlizard-like tongue despite being a lizard-like creature. Everything I described here is faithfully expanded upon by Lickilicky's beta design which was universally praised.

Then the actual Lickilicky comes, throws all that away, and makes him a cute and safe mascot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 00:55:51 No.57983265 Report

Quoted By: >>57983278

>>57983257
There is nothing unsettling about this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 00:57:06 No.57983269 Report

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>>57983257
I don't like beta Lickilicky or final Lickilicky but I would prefer beta if I had to choose

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 00:59:35 No.57983277 Report

Quoted By: >>57983348

>>57982999
>magmortar learns thunder punch
>electivire learns fire punch
crossgen evos are ultimate soul

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 01:00:29 No.57983278 Report

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>>57983265
It is objectively more bizarre than final Lickilicky and having a long tongue hanging open out of an agape mouth is more unpleasant than final Lickilicky making that cutesy "sticking tongue out while keeping its mouth closed" that you typically see from characters that are designed to be cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 01:07:16 No.57983298 Report

Quoted By: >>57983314 >>57983345

>>57982999
Tangrowth is alright I guess. Rest are unfortunate

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 01:13:18 No.57983314 Report

Quoted By: >>57983345

>>57983298
Literally my exact thoughts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 01:23:35 No.57983336 Report

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>>57982999
>Why would they let turner spitted on kanto’s legacy with these
Can you say that again? In english?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 01:29:03 No.57983345 Report

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>>57983298
>>57983314
It's weird that the designs share similar trends among themselves. Rounded heads. Comically over-exaggerated features. More organic-looking designs into more geometric ones. They look like they belong together more than with any of their prevolutions.
I agree Tangrowth is the least offensive. But with the GS beta design sitting in their archives...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 01:31:11 No.57983348 Report

Quoted By: >>57984891

>>57983277
i dunno when they decided these two were the blowjob bros but i love it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 01:50:16 No.57983378 Report

Quoted By: >>57983404

>>57983010
people actually liked rhydon, and magneton started to see some use thanks to gen3 while magmar and electabuzz would ironically be more popular in vgc than their evos thanks to their speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 02:05:46 No.57983404 Report

Quoted By: >>57983489

>>57983378
>people actually liked rhydon
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 02:30:09 No.57983489 Report

Quoted By: >>57983498 >>57983534

>>57983404
do you laugh when someone says the sky is blue too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 02:31:10 No.57983492 Report

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>>57983257
I never saw a single second of the pokémon anime so I wouldn't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 02:32:11 No.57983495 Report

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>>57983257
turning it around and making him cute is exactly why it's good. it's like he matured.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 02:34:25 No.57983498 Report

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>>57983489
>the sky is blue
ROFL

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 02:46:56 No.57983534 Report

Quoted By: >>57984518

>>57983489
Do you always get your dogshit opinions confused with facts?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 02:49:42 No.57983542 Report

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>>57982999
>"Muh turner" even though none of those are unovabort pokemon
Faggot.

Spinarak Anon

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Spinarak Anon Wed 09 Jul 2025 04:09:29 No.57983675 Report

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>>57982999
I'm a big fan of all of these minus lickylicky if for no other reason than the tongue is less prominent. Magmortar is my favorite fire type for having a really nice cool/goofy balance. I agree that Rhydon felt complete but I'm a huge fan of Rhyperior's piledriver arms and had some cool tools at the time like Solid Rock and Megahorn. I get that Tangrowth just being 'more tangela' might be considered lazy but as someone with a backyard it hits close to home. Magnezone and Electevire are just good and you're out of your mind for saying they 'spit in the face' of incredible pokemon such as 3 magnets and spaghetti guy with shoes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 04:38:06 No.57983722 Report

Quoted By: >>57984012

>>57983010
people still don’t care about them tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 04:59:20 No.57983735 Report

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>>57982999
I only dislike lickylicky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 05:01:04 No.57983737 Report

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>>57982999
They don't ruin the "Kanto legacy" for me. They are neat additions that aren't better and aren't worse than their Kanto counterpart.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 05:13:28 No.57983749 Report

Quoted By: >>57984044

The fact that fans effortlessly improve on these designs all the time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 05:50:47 No.57983792 Report

Quoted By: >>57984005

Crossgens shouldn't be made unless it's only one, maybe two gens later. Further than that and the differences in art and design philosophy becomes too apparent and it looks bad even if the individual designs look fine.
Like, magneton is an interesting concept, and I like magnezone. It's so blaringly obvious they were not made as a set however.
On the other hand, hydrapple not only fits in to the applin line seamlessly but it's also by far the best of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 09:24:59 No.57984005 Report

Quoted By: >>57984536 >>57984720

>>57983792
counterpoint: politoed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 09:33:04 No.57984012 Report

Quoted By: >>57984458

>>57983722
More people do because they're no longer a shitty single or two stager (with a baby form in a few cases).
Your problem is you think the entire world holds Kanto to the same regard your afterbirth arse does. Not happening and never did, hnece why it's only spergy fuckers who probably don't wash themselves throwing tantrums about Game Freak making their children's games how they wish, instead of slavishly copying Anon's childhood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 09:40:29 No.57984014 Report

Quoted By: >>57984810 >>57984818

>>57982999
>JAMES TURNER JAMES TURNER JAMES TURNER
How is this man living rent free in /vp/s head? He had literally nothing to do with any of these mons lmfao, why are you so obsessed with him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 10:05:28 No.57984044 Report

Quoted By: >>57984480

>>57983749
I'll believe you if you'd show me a fixed Rhyperior instead of Boober2 (even if that's a kino redesign NGL).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 15:08:57 No.57984458 Report

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>>57984012
lol no they don’t. They’re both not popular at all. Rhyperiorfags just get uppity when you remind them their fat constriction worker mon is also ugly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 15:19:51 No.57984480 Report

Quoted By: >>57984487

>>57984044
>>57984044
Design-wise the Rhyhorn line would be better off with a baby pre-evo than a evolution for Rhydon. And I personally think Rhyperior is bad enough to abandon entirely. But since this is a Rhyperior redesign and not a new Rhydon evo:
Picrel is definitely lacking... something. But it's one of the better ones

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 15:24:04 No.57984487 Report

Quoted By: >>57984511

>>57984480
I also found this one. It's supposed to be "Mega Rhyperior" but it works better as a modest redesign

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 15:38:50 No.57984511 Report

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>>57984487
I think it highlights issues of Rhyperior as is. The color scheme is tacky and gives you whiplash and the head didn’t need to look like it’s bald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 15:44:39 No.57984517 Report

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>>57983016
i would take a long time slowly cutting out your balls if given the chance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 15:45:05 No.57984518 Report

Quoted By: >>57984530

>>57983534
it is a fact that people liked Rhydon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 15:50:23 No.57984530 Report

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>>57984518
I have yet to find any Gen 1 polls that imply this. Not that its ugly evo is better, of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 15:52:49 No.57984536 Report

Quoted By: >>57984720 >>57984746

>>57984005
Politoed is an answer to Poliwrath being too similar. They over corrected.

Still prefer poliwrath.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 16:06:41 No.57984572 Report

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 16:09:59 No.57984582 Report

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>>57982999
Fuck you, I like him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 16:18:48 No.57984603 Report

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>>57982999
Electivire and Magnezone are fantastic. The only offensive one is Lickilicky and only because it would fit better as a Lickitung prevo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 16:23:55 No.57984621 Report

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>>57982999
The only downgrade is Rhyperior. Magmar was already hideous so logically it follows that its evolution would be equally hideous. The other 4 are upgrades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 16:41:30 No.57984670 Report

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>>57982999
Imagine disliking Electivire and Magmortar.
Tangrowth is also good, but I am a Tangelafag so it overshadows the evolution to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 16:44:11 No.57984676 Report

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>>57982999
I would be fine with Lickilicky if the tongue wasn’t that stiff.
It looks like someone painted a cardboard as a tongue and it’s holding it in his teeth. Looks awful, even move considering Lickitung’s tongue looks fine

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 16:58:47 No.57984720 Report

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>>57984005
>>57984536

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 17:07:33 No.57984746 Report

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>>57984536
If Poliwhirl had a tail, I think Poliwrath could have worked better without changes to itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 17:31:25 No.57984810 Report

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>>57984014
>>57984163

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 17:36:46 No.57984818 Report

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>>57983010
>>57984014
what's funny is that most of Turner's mons have gone between okay and kino, the only true misses being the ice cone family and maybe obstagoon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 18:09:20 No.57984872 Report

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>>57982999
>First: Turner was not designing Pokémon or even at Game Freak when DP were being developed.
>Second: Magnezone is fantastic, Tangrowth and Electivire are pretty good, and at least Rhydon can use Eviolite since Gen 5. Lickilicky sucks, and Magmortar is just okay.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 18:19:09 No.57984891 Report

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>>57983348
since Platinum

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jul 2025 18:50:46 No.57984980 Report

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>>57982999
Tangrowth is good. I give Magmortar and Electivire a pass since them existing buffs magmar and buzz with eviolite.
Licki is just disapointing, but not that important. Same for Magnezone.
Rhyperior is fucking heinous though. Mechanics wise its fine by why does it have to look so fucking ugly.

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