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>okay Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald did nice with their tweak to the story, bringing the legendary pokemon into the spotlight instead of keeping them as secondary quests, what should we do with the story of Diamond, Pearl and the future Platinum? >I know, let's make you pick your starter in a rush because some "emergency" as excuse, then let you keep it, like in Hoenn >I know, let's make the fire starter some humanoid fighting type, like in Hoenn >I know, let's make your gender counterpart the professor's assistant who has a starter but isn't your rival, like in Hoenn >I know, let's make shitty filler contests that nobody sane or with the Y chromosome plays, like in Hoenn >I know, let's make a pompous hottie a recurrent character who helps you so you can see how cool and better they are, then reveal them as Champion, like in Hoenn >I know, let's make the last gym leader have some sort of relationship with the league guys, like in Hoenn >I know, let's make another Battle Frontier island away from the main land in the post game, like in Hoenn >I know, let's make the bad guys attack some important place to steal the only thing that will allow them to control the deities, except it really doesn't work, like in Hoenn >I know, let's make the bad guys basically a cult going after the power of a pokemon seen as a deity in the region, like in Hoenn, but worse because it's the same people in both games, going after different forces of nature >I know, let's make the main bad guy a retard who wants to rebuild the world using the legendary, like in Hoenn, but also worse because once again, it's the same people with the same goal but using a completely different force depending on the game >I know, let's make the third edition just bring both legendaries into the plot and have the third legendary show up and solve everything on its own, like in Hoenn, but worse because the MC is 100% unneeded here What the fuck was Sinnoh problem? Even the logos were a copy of Hoenn's.
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>>58047943 Hoenn really felt like the establishment of the norms that we can expect from each new generation. Although the series has indeed changed with new gens, especially Gen 6 and onwards, in a lot of ways that's still true. Gen 4 really stuck hard to Hoenn's example being very next gen.
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>>58047952 This. Hoenn was and still is the blueprint for new generations. Gen 2 was more of a sequel to Gen 1 and hadn't really set itself apart like Gen 3 did.
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>>58047943 >>58047963 And made people think the way the third editions worked was always meant to be like this
>gen 5 had sequels instead of a third edition, a completely different approach >gen 6 actually had placeholders for two enhanced editions and two planned super forms for Zygarde (instead of a super form and an inferior form) so it was probably going to work like USUM >gen 7 managed to do what XY couldn't due to the 20th anniversary rush, no "there are two Nebbys and Lusamine uses both until Necrozma appears" bullshit, it goes from "Solgaleo or Lunala" to "Solgaleo and Necrozma or Lunala and Necrozma" >gen 8 had the third legend and the dual legends role reversed all in the base game, with DLC side stories later >gen 9 had the dual legends and then the DLC is the one including the third legendary with a sequel plot Pokemon Gray, Pokemon Z, Pokemon Stars, Pokemon whatever people imagined for Galar... people expected these because Sinnoh lazily copy-pasted Hoenn's plot.
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>>58047958 >I'm rightwing and I don't read Thank you for your confession.
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>>58047971 Gen 4 sticks to Hoenn's formula, but it works. Honestly my favorite overall generation and it feels like the last generation of the true classic Pokemon experience.
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>>58047958 Btfo libtard op is raped
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gen 3+ were made by a new and less talented team who didn't know what they were doing
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This is the only good Sinnoh game.
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>>58047943 >What the fuck was Sinnoh problem? Perfecting the formula Hoenn created.
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>>58047943 If it's not broken then don't fix it
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>>58047943 >like in Hoenn, but worse RSE have one of the worst plots in Pokemon.
No, it's not a good thing at all Hoenn has two villain teams because Gamefreak also tries to make them interchangable between versions. You get nonsense like Team Aqua wanting more water for no reason, or them having the same aquatic hideout. The writing is also contrived, Maxie and Archie grabbing the wrong orbs is dumb.
The writing is tighter in DPPT because there's only one team to focus on, and things just work better. Cyrus fails because of multiple failsafes the legends had that he couldn't have been aware of, not because he got the wrong colored orb.
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>>58047943 >Hoenn was so cool and perfect, let's do it again! based devs
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>>58048011 that is a Hisui game thoughhowever
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>>58048014 >same thing but worse >"perfecting" Anonymous
>>58048025 The Magma vs Aqua think is based on an actual social event in Japan anon, irl you get people like that
Also the wrong orb meme is dumb, Groudon's energy is blue and Kyogre's is red, it wouldn't be crazy for their orb colors to be swapped SPECIALLY if you only know about one of these monsters
>study big red dinosaur, god of land >big dinosaur body is covered in runes >the runes brim with a blue glow >apparently the there's a blue orb capable of controling its power? >steal blue orb Cyrus having exactly the same plan with a god of time, a god of space or both, and losing at the end without the player's intervention isn't good writing btw, at least in Emerald you had to wake up Rayquaza but in Platinum saving the lake trio or going to Mount Coronet doesn't really matter it's literally filler
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>>58048125 Platinum is objectively better than any gen 3 game.
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>>58047943 Gen 3 contests were great though
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>>58048149 It's not without the player's intervention. Saving the lives of the lake trio is an important event in both games, so was helping calm down Giratina.
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>>58048178 >saving the lives of the lake trio They had no interest in them after taking the red rocks for the red chain which amounted to absolutely nothing
>calm down Giratina Giratina only did one thing and was saving the universe, you are just there pretending you matter
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>>58047943 I remember people were cracking jokes about Giratina pulling a Rayquaza before Platinum came out.
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>>58047943 RS > DP but Pt > E IMO
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>>58048376 And then everyone expected the same shit to get repeated ad infinitum because Giratina actually copied Rayquaza's thing
>Gray will just have Zerkom, Reshiram AND Kyurem solving the crisis! >Z will clearly have Zygarde stopping Xerneas and Yveltal at same time! >Stars will have Lusamine use two Nebbys, a Solgaleo and a Lunala, then Necrozma will appear! Anonymous
>>58047943 doesn't sound like a problem to me
>>58048011 >plass shovelware worse than even bdsp
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>>58047971 >And made people think the way the third editions worked was always meant to be like this They’re literally all 15 minutes of more gameplay + some replayable end content, you seem autistic.
>>gen 7 managed to do what XY couldn't due to the 20th anniversary rush Lol
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>>58048588 >LA >worse than DiaPer playdought Bait used to be believable
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>>58048609 >ugly genderbent balling throwing tech demo indisputabl worse than any ugly chibi demake
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>>58048349 >They had no interest in them after taking the red rocks for the red chain which amounted to absolutely nothing Cyrus says he was about to dispose of them until you arrived. They were going to die.
And the red chain does work, you're confusing them with the orbs.
>Giratina only did one thing and was saving the universe, you are just there pretending you matter The portal Giratina opened was causing damage to both worlds. You have to go in and calm Giratina down. Cyrus was not stopped yet.
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>>58047943 >bro....they redid le thing? Good, the further you stray from Hoenn, the shittier your game is. I like that Gen 4 carried over features like the VS Seeker, Factory, and the copy pasted monkey Blaziken being the last Fire starter that doesn't look ugly as fuck.
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>>58047943 I don’t know about the rest of you, but I was disappointed when I first played DP. Shameless aping off of Hoenn, but slower, in a worse region with a worse dex and a worse looking evil team (singular), with infinitely worse droning music. My thoughts were legitimately “we waited an extra year for this?”
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>>58049556 Half this thread is OP talking to herself.
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>>58048014 This. Same case for the Ashnime
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>>58049642 Nah. Hoenn was meandering dogshit. At least Sinnoh in the anime had a stronger thought process before shitting the bed.
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>>58048125 >wifi but worse dex >no big empty ocean blob but slow straight snow line instead >less water HMs but Defog, Rock Climb >physical/special split but learnsets are still awkward at times >>third versions desu just give me ZA at least the gameplay is different
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>>58049648 >Nah Yah. The Sinnoh saga is better in every way
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>>58049557 based. plasshills are retarded apes
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>>58047943 >Still better than Hoenn KWAB
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>>58049556 Calm down sinnohtard
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>>58050174 >Sinnoh is that much of a copy of Hoenn he has to compare their relationship to RG-GS, when GS is literally an expansion of RG and was even called just "Pokemon 2" That's like defending XY's Santalune forest by showing FRLG's Viridian forest
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>>58047958 >comes to a thread to explain everyone he and everyone who shares his views can't read Based
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>>58047943 >>I know, let's make another Battle Frontier island away from the main land in the post game, like in Hoenn i'll agree with all the others but this one isn't that bad since it's not just copying story beats it's just including a well received gameplay element
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>>58052103 >sinnoh is that much better than hoenn, it even improved its shitty logo as g2 did to g1 uh based
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>>58054373 >it's a copy because it's better okay?! Anonymous
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>>58054473 Try again in English.