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itt we give powercrept Pokemon reasonable buffs

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 02:48:21 No.58095095 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>58095099 >>58095120 >>58098446 >>58099333

>Replace Early Bird with Analytic
>Run Away now prevents the user from being trapped
>Give him High Jump Kick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 02:50:22 No.58095099 Report

Quoted By: >>58095107 >>58095127

>>58095095
Being "Reasonable" is boring give it an ability to use any move three times in a row

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 02:53:37 No.58095107 Report

Quoted By: >>58095112 >>58098459

>>58095099
Mega Kangaskhan was very abused. I like the idea but it'd have to be maybe secondary effects suppressed and definitely power of hits overall reduced

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 02:54:36 No.58095108 Report

Quoted By: >>58098446

Give tough claws to both forms
If you need an explanation please see an eye doctor

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 02:56:00 No.58095112 Report

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>>58095107
>secondary effects suppressed
But that's the whole point... you know they're bringing Power-Up Punch back JUST because Mega Kangaskhan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:00:38 No.58095120 Report

Quoted By: >>58095124 >>58095129

>>58095095
I thought this thing already got High Jump Kick.
>it only got Jump Kick
>Jump Kick was removed from the games
>this thing got actively nerfed even though it’s total shit
Why? Just… why?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:01:33 No.58095123 Report

Quoted By: >>58096761

There's one minor change GF could do to Miltank that would both make complete sense and give it a genuine niche that no other Pokemon in the game can currently pull off.
Give it Rapid Spin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:02:09 No.58095124 Report

Quoted By: >>58095138

>>58095120
>remove Jump Kick
>create Axe Kick
For what goddamned reason?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:02:26 No.58095127 Report

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>>58095099
Triple uses of
>Acupressure
>TriAttack (~50% status chance)
>Swords Dance
>Helping Hand in doubles
>Whirlwind (hazard wet dream)
>Echoed Voice (40 + 80 + 160)
>Headbutt (about same as Jirachi)
Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:02:39 No.58095129 Report

Quoted By: >>58095192 >>58095230

>>58095120
Dexit was completely necessary and GF needed to remove unimportant moves like Jump Kick, Aromatherapy and Pursuit please understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:05:49 No.58095138 Report

Quoted By: >>58095147

>>58095124
Speaking of kicking moves, I still don't fucking understand why Triple Kick hasn't been buffed to be on par with Triple Axel. Give Hitmontop some love damn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:10:22 No.58095147 Report

Quoted By: >>58095180

>>58095138
The surprising part is how it hasn't been removed yet. It's a weak move with limited distribution. Triple Axel is twice as strong and way more Pokémon learn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:19:23 No.58095180 Report

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>>58095147
>limited distribution
It's a signature move outside of that short stint when they gave it to an Ultra Beast for some reason, which tend to be somewhat safe unless they're really redundant (see: Heal Order on Vespaquen when it already got Roost).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:25:10 No.58095192 Report

Quoted By: >>58095360

>>58095129
Call me a conspiracy theorist but the removal of Aromatherapy was 100% targeted towards Meganium.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:25:17 No.58095193 Report

Quoted By: >>58095210 >>58095223 >>58095299 >>58098537

Make her overpowered. I literally can't imagine how you could make a bug/flying wall even decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:30:51 No.58095210 Report

Quoted By: >>58095219 >>58095508

>>58095193
Just retcon her type. You could very easily justify making her Bug/Rock, but honestly even just plain Bug would be better than what she is now.
If you really want to keep the type I guess at least give it Filter or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:35:07 No.58095219 Report

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>>58095210
Beside new type introductions when have they ever retconed a pokemon's type? Seems off the table, stuff like magcargo or parasect would have been retconed by now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:36:01 No.58095223 Report

Quoted By: >>58095243 >>58098446

>>58095193
If Radical Red can give Ledian and Delibird literal overhauls, then there's no such thing as an unsalvageable Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:37:40 No.58095230 Report

Quoted By: >>58095238

>>58095129
Wait, isn’t Aromatherapy still in the game?
>Heal Bell is in the game
>Aromatherapy was removed
Genuinely what the fuck is the reasoning here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:38:44 No.58095238 Report

Quoted By: >>58095372

>>58095230
To kick Meganium while it's down.
(and all the Pokefags clapped)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:41:36 No.58095243 Report

Quoted By: >>58095250 >>58095270 >>58096734

>>58095223
These are both very fan fictiony changes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:45:12 No.58095250 Report

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>>58095243
THEN WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE IF IT'S NOT IN AN OFFICIAL GAME
YOU QUINTUPLE NIGGER

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:52:51 No.58095270 Report

Quoted By: >>58095280 >>58095306

>>58095243
Point still stands in the context of ROM hacks.

>>58095243
>These are both very fan fictiony changes.
Like Flygon having 560 BST and now having Compound Eyes & Tinted Lens.
And interestingly enough Archeops (567 BST, so 7 more points that Flygon) still has fucking Defeatist (and only that) in this for some fuck-ass reason. And don't get me started on Aurorus still being Rock/Ice with its same shit stats in the same damn ROM hack that gave Delibird an overhaul. There's no excuse for that and it reeks of Leddit """advice""" of the Pokemon being le unsalvageable.

I don't care what people have to say but fossil Pokemon matter too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 03:58:45 No.58095280 Report

Quoted By: >>58095296 >>58095306

>>58095270
>And interestingly enough Archeops (567 BST, so 7 more points that Flygon) still has fucking Defeatist (and only that) in this for some fuck-ass reason.
Ultimately this is a major issue most of these overcorrecting hacks run into, if you start handing out these massive buffs you just make the other mediocre Pokemon that don't get buffed feel even worse to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:05:25 No.58095296 Report

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>>58095280
Or it could just be a dick measuring contest to see who can give Ledian the most buffs to the point it may as well not be a route 1 bug anymore.

>if you start handing out these massive buffs you just make the other mediocre Pokemon that don't get buffed feel even worse to use.
Bonus points if the ROM hack is one that that's oriented towards "difficulty" (aka the first gym having a legendary Pokemon + it being VGC/Smogon simulator). Leddit FINALLY gets to see the Pokemon they cry over being unusable in the official games actually be unusable.
(and ironically enough they say the official games are too easy)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:05:50 No.58095299 Report

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>>58095193
ability that's a bee hazard that also buffs heal/defend/attack order every single turn it's on the field

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:08:04 No.58095306 Report

Quoted By: >>58095309

>>58095270
Archeops is designed around defeatist, a rock/flying sweeper with great attack and speed is crazy.
>>58095280
RR DID buff him though, the ability now activates at >33% instead of >50% like ingame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:09:17 No.58095309 Report

Quoted By: >>58095315

>>58095306
I'd rather Archeops have Early Bird instead of Defeatist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:10:52 No.58095315 Report

Quoted By: >>58095327 >>58095369

>>58095309
You're missing the point, how can you not understand that the ability is fundamentally designed around this specific mon? Archeops IS defeatist, that's its core design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:14:19 No.58095327 Report

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>>58095315
>you're not allowed to make it usable for anything other than a suicide lead because uuuuuh game freak said so, okay?
Fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:28:39 No.58095360 Report

Quoted By: >>58095372

>>58095192
wrong, game freak actually likes meganium

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:31:40 No.58095369 Report

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>>58095315
One day I'll make a ROM hack that intentionally makes fossil Pokemon OP.
and to BTFO Pokefags I'll make Aurora Veil exclusive to Aurorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:32:52 No.58095372 Report

Quoted By: >>58095387

>>58095360
and to add to that,
>>58095238
meganium isn't "down" retard. meganium has been winning harder than ever as of late

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:36:50 No.58095383 Report

Quoted By: >>58095496

Hidden Ability : Magic Guard
straight to 80% usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 04:39:02 No.58095387 Report

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>>58095372
inb4 its all one giant fake out by Game Freak because then people will become VERY UPSET the very moment they can't shit on Meganium anymore.

Can't have something worse than the Holocaust, can we?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 05:27:16 No.58095496 Report

Quoted By: >>58095526 >>58096723

>>58095383
Anon you realize you just made Shedinja totally unusable right? You realize changing Shedinja’s ability is really stupid and totally unhelpful, right? Anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 05:32:10 No.58095508 Report

Quoted By: >>58095658

>>58095210
Hear me out, make her Bug/Dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 05:41:25 No.58095526 Report

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>>58095496
Counter argument: give him Sturdy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 07:00:48 No.58095658 Report

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>>58095508
Kind of shitty but anything but ice or grass as a second type would be better really. Just bug or maybe bug/ground since most bees live underground. I would say bug/poison but they probably want to avoid that despite letting her be one of the now few non poison types with access to toxic still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 16:08:20 No.58096723 Report

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>>58095496
I mean it'd be a really funny prank to pull on people not in the know.
>Play assuming your opponent isn't retarded and ran Wonder Guard
>Try to toxic Shedinja
>PRANKED

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 16:10:46 No.58096734 Report

Quoted By: >>58096742

>>58095243
>These are both very fan fictiony changes.
Any kind of fan made buff for a pokemon is a fanfiction anon that's the literal meaning of the word

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 16:12:30 No.58096742 Report

Quoted By: >>58098463

>>58096734
There's a difference between "wouldn't it be cool if this physical sweeper got this coverage move instead of that coverage move" and "WE SHOULD MAKE THIS EARLY GAME SUPPORT MON INTO A PHYSICAL ATTACKER AND GIVE IT 70 EXTRA ATTACK"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 16:15:12 No.58096761 Report

Quoted By: >>58096779

>>58095123
Rolling != spinning

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 16:17:28 No.58096779 Report

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>>58096761
You literally spin when you roll you stupid cunt. You cannot, by definition, roll without spinning.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 23:33:37 No.58098446 Report

Quoted By: >>58098460

Give picrel:
Shore Up, Lunge, Magic Powder, Expanding Force, Skitter Smack, Scorching Sands, Silk Trap, Pounce, Psychic Noise

>>58095095
Why would Analytic buff Dodrio? Dodrio is pretty fast. Analytic is better on slow, bulky mons.
>>58095108
Depressing Game Freak seems to think no newly introduced ability seems to fit Sandslash, given it still has an open ability slot. I think Spiky Shield could also fit it as a move.
>>58095223
Delibird deserves Slush Rush. Refridgerate is a soulless choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 23:36:15 No.58098459 Report

Quoted By:

>>58095107
Make it work like Technichian so it only activates on certain moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 23:36:26 No.58098460 Report

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>>58098446
Also - just fix Anticipation to where it just reveals a super effective move for either of your Pokemon. None of this shuddering bullshit. And do it whenever a new Pokemon enters the field.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 23:36:47 No.58098463 Report

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>>58096742
Both of those are "What if" of an already existing pokemon though

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 23:45:37 No.58098497 Report

Quoted By: >>58098510

Burn Up, considering the magnet theme this move actually makes sense for it to have

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 23:49:06 No.58098510 Report

Quoted By: >>58098514

>>58098497
How does it work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 23:50:18 No.58098514 Report

Quoted By: >>58098518

>>58098510
One change is made to the move, it removes all typing not just Fire-type

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 23:52:36 No.58098518 Report

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>>58098514
You’re lying and getting me pissed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Aug 2025 23:57:51 No.58098537 Report

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>>58095193
Needs a Bug/Steel Mega that is a reverse Mega Beedrill where it is instead a min-maxed wall along with bringing back Heal Order

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Aug 2025 04:07:25 No.58099333 Report

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>>58095095
What buff would you give EKANS or Seviper

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