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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:06:23 No.58142364 View View Reply Original Report

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Why a Luxray over a Jolteon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:07:33 No.58142369 Report

Quoted By: >>58142853 >>58143475 >>58144739

>>58142364
most people prefer using pokemon new to whatever gen they’re playing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:07:59 No.58142370 Report

Quoted By: >>58142419

>>58142364
Shinx appears earlier. People gravitate more towards early route pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:08:20 No.58142373 Report

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It's actually in DP. Most of these Pokemon are, so you're most likely to see them on any Sinnoh playthrough. And with Eeveelutions in Platinum there's much better options like Vaporeon, Espeon or Umbreon. Electric isn't really a good type in Sinnoh, it peaks at Crasher Wake

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:22:23 No.58142419 Report

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>>58142364
>>58142370 this and Eevee is post game only in DP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:29:02 No.58142424 Report

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God luxray is so fucking ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:31:12 No.58142431 Report

Quoted By: >>58142692

why jolteon instead of chadnezone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:47:38 No.58142471 Report

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>Why was the cooler AND more accessible mon more popular?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:49:51 No.58142477 Report

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>>58142364
>Not using Electivire
NGMI

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:53:20 No.58142490 Report

Quoted By: >>58142501 >>58142577 >>58142586 >>58142640 >>58142641

>>58142364
people may bitch that Sinnoh teams are to samey, but at least they're all cool Pokemon. Staraptor, Luxray, Floatzel, Roserade. All great

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 20:55:27 No.58142501 Report

Quoted By: >>58142860 >>58144610

>>58142490
Roserade looks like shit compared to Roselia
Same goes for budew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:01:31 No.58142521 Report

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>>58142364
Luxray is cooler. What else do you need

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:01:58 No.58142522 Report

Quoted By: >>58142881

>>58142364
Staraptor is king, as expected.
Luxray kinda sucks, though. It's slow and can't use it's high attack effectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:20:02 No.58142577 Report

Quoted By: >>58142629 >>58142860 >>58143583

>>58142490
Floatzel fucking sucks. Not even furries care about that thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:22:32 No.58142586 Report

Quoted By: >>58142860 >>58144754

>>58142490
actual lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:33:54 No.58142629 Report

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>>58142577
Wrong on both accounts

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:37:13 No.58142639 Report

Quoted By: >>58142652 >>58142862

It's quite impressive how evenly split the Sinnoh starters are. I don't think we'll ever get a trio as balanced as them ever again.
>inb4 anti-empoleon contrarians

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:37:18 No.58142640 Report

Quoted By: >>58142659 >>58142735 >>58142860 >>58143058

>>58142490
They're all shitmons in competitive. Even Staraptor is eternally trapped in BL because it does too much damage for UU yet is too weak for OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:37:28 No.58142641 Report

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>>58142490
Platinum probably has the best field of mons to campaign with (maybe BW2 is better).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:39:31 No.58142652 Report

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>>58142639
Gen 1, 3 and 4 are those generations where all the starters are solid picks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:40:48 No.58142659 Report

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>>58142640
Infernape, Empoleon, and Roserade were all good in gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:41:29 No.58142661 Report

Quoted By: >>58142696 >>58142707 >>58142731 >>58142822 >>58142869

>>58142652
>Torterra
>4x weak to ice in the snow region

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:49:32 No.58142692 Report

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>>58142431
>Eeveelution shillmon
You know why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:50:53 No.58142696 Report

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>>58142661
>Water starter when every region has like 50 fish to choose from
Torterra's just a cool dude
Though frankly ice isn't even really an issue assuming you're not bumbling through with your starter only or something. It's ice up to the one gym, and then the top of mount coronet I think. You're cruising otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:52:36 No.58142702 Report

Quoted By: >>58142714

>>58142652
Treecko kind of sucks in RSE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:54:57 No.58142707 Report

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>>58142661
>He still only uses his over leveled starters in his team
Grim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:56:22 No.58142714 Report

Quoted By: >>58142720 >>58142802 >>58142825

>>58142702
>Grass type in the "too much water" region
Wdym he sucks in RSE?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 21:57:18 No.58142720 Report

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>>58142714
the two most common water encounters take neutral damage from grass because of their secondary types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:01:16 No.58142731 Report

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>>58142661
It's not actually the snow region. There's a snow route and gym, but that's it.
Tort has a really good in-game learnset. Consistently gets more and more cool toys throughout the whole game. Infernape's probably better objectively, but Torterra feels really good to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:03:16 No.58142734 Report

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>>58142364
the eeveelutions are generally really bad in battle. the only one i'd ever consider using is vaporeon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:04:18 No.58142735 Report

Quoted By: >>58142812

>>58142640
>competitive
who gives a shit
>>58142652
gen 5 too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:26:02 No.58142802 Report

Quoted By: >>58142817

>>58142714
It learns shit moves for half the game. Being strong against Water-types is kind of meaningless when your strongest option is base 20.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:27:36 No.58142812 Report

Quoted By: >>58142875

>>58142735
>gen 5
No. Serperior is an exercise in pain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:28:18 No.58142817 Report

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>>58142802
You get the TM for Bullet Seed before the first gym.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:30:10 No.58142822 Report

Quoted By: >>58142834

>>58142661
>Snow region
Oh sure let us look at the abundance of Ice-type Pokemon on the snow route-...
ZUBAT.
MACHOKE.
GRAVELER.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:30:54 No.58142825 Report

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>>58142714
Too much water meme only applies to the back half of RSE, Treecko is good for Roxanne, dogshit for the entire midgame, then moderately decent in the back half because there's no better options for Grass/Electrics in Hoenn. Part of the reason the too much Water criticism holds any weight is because Water is too fucking OP in Gen III. Most of the Electric and Grass mons are shitmons and your best answer to 90% of Hoenn's Water types isn't either, it's Thunderbolt Gardevoir

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:33:34 No.58142834 Report

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>>58142822
KAAAAAAAANNNNNNTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:37:03 No.58142853 Report

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>>58142369
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:38:04 No.58142860 Report

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>>58142501 >>58142577 >>58142586 >>58142640
contrarians

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:39:04 No.58142862 Report

Quoted By: >>58142874

>>58142639
Piplup is for females and homosexuals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:40:05 No.58142869 Report

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>>58142661
It's called a Pokemon *team*.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:41:17 No.58142874 Report

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>>58142862
but enough about infernape

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:41:22 No.58142875 Report

Quoted By: >>58142886

>>58142812
you might be bad at pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:42:12 No.58142879 Report

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>>58142364
>Zubat, Machoke, Graveler : the region
>thinking you have a choice in team variety

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:42:27 No.58142881 Report

Quoted By: >>58142887 >>58142892 >>58142928 >>58143349

>>58142522
I can guarantee you that Luxray wouldn't be on the list if it was a herbivore like Meganium is.
I personally believe that Pokefags have double standards when it comes to stats and go basedmouth if it's a predator and instantly prepare a cross for crucifixion if it was a herbivore with the same shit stats instead. I wouldn't be surprised Meganium wouldn't get as much shit it is now if it was a theropod instead of a sauropod, which would ultimately expose this form of Pokefaggotry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:43:16 No.58142886 Report

Quoted By: >>58142934

>>58142875
you might have never used serperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:43:50 No.58142887 Report

Quoted By: >>58142911 >>58142930

>>58142881
it's because meganium has no moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:44:57 No.58142892 Report

Quoted By: >>58142911

>>58142881
then why come Gardevoir is Top 3 in Hoenn for popularity

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:47:42 No.58142911 Report

Quoted By: >>58142933

>>58142887
This doesn't help yeah. Luxray doesn't have moves either but it can hit modestly hard with Spark, I guess

>>58142892
Tactical nukemon. It's not just cute, but it hits like a truck and has good coverage with Thunderbolt alone. It's objectively better Electric coverage than all of the Electric mons you can get in Hoenn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:49:23 No.58142928 Report

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>>58142881
>I can guarantee you that Luxray wouldn't be on the list if it wasn't a big cat Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:50:13 No.58142930 Report

Quoted By: >>58142965

>>58142887
Yet people fawn over Sceptile despite having an ass fuck movepool that goes against its stats and a hidden ability that barely does shit for it despite already being fast to begin with.
Meganium also wasn't the one to be cucked out of Leaf Blade not had a mega evolution that doubled down on the ass fucked movepool and wasted ability.

Feel free to nail me to a cross and set me on fire, for I am NOT taking back what I said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:50:32 No.58142933 Report

Quoted By: >>58142957

>>58142911
you were talking about aesthetics and now moved to mechanics

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:50:34 No.58142934 Report

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>>58142886
i have used serperior a great many times. i have used serperior so many times that i have gotten sick of it.
you need to git gud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:54:15 No.58142957 Report

Quoted By: >>58142993

>>58142933
nta to begin with. Mechanics play a major part into the popularity of a Pokemon along with aesthetics. Aesthetically cute mons with good mechanics will be just as popular, if not more so sometimes, than aesthetically cool mons with good mechanics

>Meganium
Cutemon with shit mechanics
>Luxray
Coolmon with shit mechanics
>Sceptile
Coolmon with shit mechanics
>Gardevoir
Cutemon with great mechanics

Only one of these is a franchise darling

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 22:55:44 No.58142965 Report

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>>58142930
>that goes against its stats
no it doesn't
>Meganium also wasn't the one to be cucked out of Leaf Blade not had a mega evolution that doubled down on the ass fucked movepool and wasted ability.
come again

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 23:01:34 No.58142993 Report

Quoted By: >>58143006 >>58143008 >>58143013

>>58142957
>Luxray
>shit mechanics
nope
>franchise darling
was literally the third most beloved Sinnoh mon on the poll and is considered by players to be a foundational team member

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 23:04:08 No.58143006 Report

Quoted By: >>58143010

>>58142993
Lucario and Greninja got more votes than CHARIZARD? SHUT IT DOWN

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 23:04:45 No.58143008 Report

Quoted By: >>58143034 >>58143420

>>58142993
Luxray can either Spark or Elemental Fang. That's literally all it can do. It looks cool, people can try to use it like they can try to use Charizard in any pre-Gen V game, but that's not really going to help it in the long run. Gen IV's variety, especially in DP, is very limited and more people are likely going to use a Luxray over a Bibarel even if the latter has objectively better utility and options

Electric has always been a third class citizen type anyway because Pikachu keeps everyone else oppressed from actually getting good moves. Only it and legendary shillmons are allowed to be viable ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 23:05:37 No.58143010 Report

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>>58143006
This truly is the shoah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 23:06:19 No.58143013 Report

Quoted By: >>58143022

>>58142993
only greniggers and other shillmonfaggots wank off to this poll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 23:09:58 No.58143022 Report

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>>58143013
I'm sorry your boy Chesnaught didn't make it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 23:12:28 No.58143034 Report

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>>58143008
>That's literally all it can do.
Meanwhile the most hated Pokemon (Simisear) gets the strong and reliable Flamethrower for its STAB while the beloved Luxray's best STAB in gen 4 was a recoil move.
>simisear is also faster
lmao, It really is Pokefag retardation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Aug 2025 23:22:44 No.58143058 Report

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>>58142640
>caring about how they deal in VGC and/or fanfic metas when building an in game team
Holy Autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 00:56:01 No.58143349 Report

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>>58142881
>herbivore
What? Shinx is really cute, Luxray is really cool, and Luxio is the rare middle evolution that's a good mix of the earlier and later stages. It's a solid line, has nothing to do with their food preferences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 01:21:03 No.58143420 Report

Quoted By: >>58143436

>>58143008
Luxray does have some things going for it. Almost perfect availability, intimidate is really good, Shinx evolving at 15 is very good, stab spark does work for quite awhile.
Now that I think about it, it might be better to say that Luxio is good, not Luxray. Strong in the early to mid-game, then it falls off, especially compared to Magnezone or Jolteon.
I'm talking about Pokemon like fucking Fire Emblem units, what the hell.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 01:30:52 No.58143433 Report

Quoted By: >>58143475 >>58143486 >>58143491 >>58144498

>>58142364
>Why a Luxray over a Jolteon?
The image you posted said it pulled teams for 5 different games, 4 of which don’t have Eevee available until after the story is complete. Pic related isn’t really representative of a normal person’s play through since they were compiled of a hundred-something nuzlocke teams, but you get what I mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 01:31:33 No.58143436 Report

Quoted By: >>58143486 >>58144581

>>58142364
>>58143420
Why would I spend the one Eevee you get in the entire game on Jolteon instead of Leafeon who is new to gen 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 01:47:34 No.58143475 Report

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>>58142369
Then why do so many people still use Gyarados >>58143433
Because it's easy and available.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 01:50:33 No.58143486 Report

Quoted By: >>58144756

>>58143433
>Not using Heracross
No reason it should rank lower than Milotic or Snorlax of all things

>>58143436
Jolteon is better

Real question is why not use it for an even better Vaporeon, Espeon or Umbreon

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 01:52:02 No.58143491 Report

Quoted By: >>58143540

>>58143433
i always thought weavile was sticking her ass out in the platinum sprite and it makes me hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 02:04:41 No.58143540 Report

Quoted By: >>58143545

>>58143491
That sprite is male

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 02:06:07 No.58143545 Report

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>>58143540
even better!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 02:14:45 No.58143573 Report

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>>58142364
if I remember correctly for me it was
>Empoleon or Torterra, I think I decided to reset from one to the other, don't remember
>Roserade
>Bronzong
>Skuntank
>.....?
>...........?
I remember really wanting drifblim but couldn't be assed to go through the trouble of its autistic encounter requirements. I also wanted Vespiquen but I think I didn't understand how to get a combee encounter. Either that or I ended up only ever running into males. Wish I would have just used it anyway, I guess. I also think I wanted a hippowdon but ended up not using it. I remember being very disappointed in the variety of mons available.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 02:17:16 No.58143583 Report

Quoted By: >>58144459 >>58144495

>>58142577
Floatzel's pretty good, decent speed, attack, and coverage with Ice Punch and Crunch. It takes some shards to get going and being stuck with Aqua Jet until Waterfall is shit, but it's a good mon
>Not even furries care about that thing.
it's a BBW weasel, furries love that fucking line >>58140642

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 08:16:59 No.58144459 Report

Quoted By: >>58144512

>>58143583
I never see a reason to use Floatzel in DPPt when Empoleon, Gyarados, and Gastrodon exist. When I had the opportunity, I even transferred over a Ranger Manaphy egg for one playthrough instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 08:36:37 No.58144495 Report

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>>58143583
>it's a BBW weasel
That's not Mienshao after I gave it few (hundred) Poke Puffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 08:37:40 No.58144498 Report

Quoted By: >>58144673

>>58143433
its retarded they dont let you get bebe's eevee in bdsp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 08:46:18 No.58144512 Report

Quoted By: >>58144522 >>58144557

>>58144459
>Empoleon
for girls and gays
>Gyarados
non-native
>Gastrodon
lame-ish

Floatzel is the coolest and easiest option

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 08:49:53 No.58144522 Report

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>>58144512
>Floatzel
lispy furry shit

Come home, White man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 09:19:06 No.58144557 Report

Quoted By: >>58144710

>>58144512
>coolest
It’s a furry that literally inflates. I could not think of a lamer option if I tried.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 09:39:31 No.58144581 Report

Quoted By: >>58144613

>>58143436
Leafeon sucks ass in Platinum. Its only decent attacking move on its physical stat is razor leaf until level 71. You get better mileage out of using most of the older ones, or even just waiting to pick up Glaceon (but by then you get Weavile and Froslass who aren’t slow as shit).

If you want a grass type, just use Tangrowth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 09:57:19 No.58144610 Report

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>>58142501
Okay faggot, whatever you say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 09:58:40 No.58144613 Report

Quoted By: >>58146024

>>58144581
just give it a fucking miracle seed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 10:32:13 No.58144673 Report

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>>58144498
Is it really when everything surrounding bdsp is flat out retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 10:49:23 No.58144710 Report

Quoted By: >>58144742 >>58145988

>>58144557
luxray and lucario and infernape are also "furries"
you're just jealous it can inflate its third leg to be bigger than yours

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 11:04:10 No.58144739 Report

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>>58142369
Fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 11:04:49 No.58144742 Report

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>>58144710
infernape is just a monkey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 11:07:33 No.58144751 Report

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>>58142364
Luxury mogs the fuck out of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 11:08:34 No.58144754 Report

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>>58142586
Dilate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 11:09:34 No.58144756 Report

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>>58143486
feebas is easier to get than hera

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 15:00:37 No.58145988 Report

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>>58144710
None of those are anywhere close to the inflating rantsona. Infernape and Luxray are literally just cartoon animals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 15:05:53 No.58146024 Report

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>>58144613
Why do that when you can give your miracle seed to Roserade/Tangrowth and actually do damage? Congrats- Leafeon’s razor leaf with a miracle seed now barely outpaces the neutral damage it does when using strength. What a total shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Aug 2025 18:59:28 No.58147349 Report

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>>58142364
mid game encounter
team's full by then
stupid question

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