Still more popular than literally any other E4 member not named Lance and maybe Acerola and Lacey, as well as probably the most popular female E4 member, period.
Koga and Larry don’t count, they have the privilege of being gym leaders before hand, and yet that couldn’t save Hala nor Olivia
The only thing people remember from Karen is her one quote “something something, strong Pokémon weak Pokemon, something something you should win with your favorites”
And I say all this as a enjoyer of Lorelei, said Karen, Glacia, Shauntal, and Olivia
