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Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 01:05:29 No.58167664 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>58167708 >>58167964 >>58167967 >>58167969 >>58168067 >>58168142 >>58168185 >>58168193 >>58168324 >>58168474

Black and White were not good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 01:09:22 No.58167674 Report

Quoted By: >>58168529

Good thing they made Black 2 and White 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 01:20:00 No.58167708 Report

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>>58167664
I completely agree. They are completely ruined by the amount of meaningless dialogue, and it feels like they tryed to make a side quest for every gym, but they completely failed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 01:48:22 No.58167816 Report

Quoted By: >>58168154

they're probably the closest to an actual solid JRPG experience any pokemon game ever gave.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 02:23:23 No.58167964 Report

Quoted By: >>58168319

>>58167664
OP's name is Captain Obvious

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 02:25:05 No.58167967 Report

Quoted By: >>58168058

>>58167664
Sun and Moon killed Pokemania

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 02:25:36 No.58167969 Report

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>>58167664
You're right, they were great

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 02:48:10 No.58168058 Report

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>>58167967
the second Pokemania yeah absolutely true

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 02:50:13 No.58168067 Report

Quoted By: >>58168081

>>58167664
Correct. But they look like flawless masterpieces next to anything from the 3ds or switch.

They bummed me out after hgss. They werent an improvement in anything but story.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 02:53:42 No.58168081 Report

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>>58168067
>But they look like flawless masterpieces next to anything from the 3ds
they didn't then and still don't though
>They werent an improvement in anything but story

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:12:38 No.58168139 Report

Quoted By: >>58168148

Dude do you guys talk about anything else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:13:27 No.58168142 Report

Quoted By: >>58168144

>>58167664
The majority of the modern fanbase would disagree

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:14:44 No.58168144 Report

Quoted By: >>58168554

>>58168142
They dont play anything that isnt 3d.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:15:51 No.58168148 Report

Quoted By: >>58168266

>>58168139
80 threads in the catalogue and you choose to zoom in and complain about a few of them

because these particular ones personally offend you; because you're bitchmade in addition to shit-tasted

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:17:07 No.58168154 Report

Quoted By: >>58168169 >>58168178

>>58167816
I don't think the people that say this really know what they are talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:20:49 No.58168169 Report

Quoted By: >>58168264

>>58168154
I say this and I know what I'm talking about. Tell me why I'm wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:22:47 No.58168178 Report

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>>58168154
My favorite game is Xenogears and i think BW is a "decent" JRPG.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:24:05 No.58168185 Report

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>>58167664
Lies snd slander

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:25:36 No.58168193 Report

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>>58167664
>The threshold for how many people compliment an underappreciated game has tipped too far and now it could be considered popular
>Game actually bad???

Fuck off, engagement bait parasite. All Pokemon games are bad. It's just the third least bad game or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:37:49 No.58168264 Report

Quoted By: >>58168304

>>58168169
Because BW is not particularly different from any other Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:37:53 No.58168266 Report

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>>58168148
I’m not even complaining I’m genuinely curious because most of the time it ends up in “yawnfag” and another dude arguing in a loop, surely you realize you can’t change each other’s opinions right?

Also wym “shit tased” do you think I said that because I hate/love the game or somethin lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:44:51 No.58168304 Report

Quoted By: >>58168423

>>58168264
It has its own identity for one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:48:59 No.58168319 Report

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>>58167964
>kicks anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:50:39 No.58168324 Report

Quoted By: >>58168359

>>58167664
They had many flaws, yes. But you can tell they still tried.
And that's something you can solely tell is missing from the 3D generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 03:57:48 No.58168344 Report

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BW may have the "best" plot, but its still shit. Like its really bad, and its sin is focusing more on the shitty plot than the games before it, and they still haven't corrected course from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:00:24 No.58168359 Report

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>>58168324
>But you can tell they still tried.
Everything in Black/White feels like a first draft finalized with no edits by people who genuinely saw themselves as geniuses that could do no wrong nor make anything bad. It's the exact opposite of trying, it's acting like it was effortless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:17:49 No.58168423 Report

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>>58168304
You're just saying more stuff that doesn't really mean anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:20:37 No.58168429 Report

Quoted By: >>58168444 >>58168563

Only ESLs think BW has a good story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:27:56 No.58168444 Report

Quoted By: >>58168572 >>58168807

>>58168429
I wonder how much of it is just autism. Autists can get really worked up when you criticize a special interest and this board is a testament to the number of autists the franchise attracts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:35:30 No.58168474 Report

Quoted By: >>58168477 >>58168489 >>58168492

>>58167664
Let's Go and Legends Arceus were not good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:36:37 No.58168477 Report

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>>58168474
Other things being bad doesn't make bw good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:39:06 No.58168489 Report

Quoted By: >>58168497 >>58168527

>>58168474
>Let's Go
kino
>Legends Arceus
agreed, plass is a dogshit tech demo
bw is good and better than both for having national dex, more side features, better music, better exploration, online, and better postgame thougheverbeit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:39:56 No.58168492 Report

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>>58168474
Legends arceus is the first new thing they tried in 30 years.
If it isn't allowed to be challenging at least give me novelty

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:41:04 No.58168497 Report

Quoted By: >>58168499 >>58168579

>>58168489
>more = good
Zoomers lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:41:50 No.58168499 Report

Quoted By: >>58168515

>>58168497
yep, unlike plass which put all its effort into a roll button and bidoof catching tasks and still ended up fucking horrible. zoomer faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:47:35 No.58168515 Report

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>>58168499
>no u
Your skin is brown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:52:32 No.58168527 Report

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>>58168489
>better exploration
Red and blue did the best they could on the gameboy with like 8kb of ram and 1mb of cartridge storage to create a sense of exploration. 14 years later BW comes out and is the same but more on rails.

PLA does a way better job of capturing that sense of exploration. It does it as well as something from the mid 2000's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 04:55:06 No.58168529 Report

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>>58167674
Those weren't good either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:04:07 No.58168554 Report

Quoted By:

>>58168144
I think they do actually. You'd be surprised at how knowledgeable they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:07:25 No.58168563 Report

Quoted By: >>58168566 >>58168596 >>58168642

>>58168429
No need to project. You're an ESL and you fail to understand the story, therefore you don't like it.

No hace falta proyectar. Eres un estudiante de inglés como segunda lengua y no entiendes la historia, por lo tanto, no te gusta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:08:34 No.58168566 Report

Quoted By: >>58168592

>>58168563
*kicks munna*

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:09:37 No.58168572 Report

Quoted By: >>58168807

>>58168444
Probably a lot. I know a guy who got so hyperfixated on Gen 5 that he took a writing class in college, wrote about it and why it's so great, then proceeded to get top of his class and even convinced his teacher and a solid chunk of the class.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:11:23 No.58168579 Report

Quoted By: >>58168580

>>58168497
More ≠ good
But when that 'more' is actively fun and interesting, then it does = good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:11:53 No.58168580 Report

Quoted By: >>58168599

>>58168579
>But when that 'more' is actively fun and interesting
so..not gen 5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:13:08 No.58168588 Report

Quoted By: >>58168639 >>58168818

I swear this board hates Pokemon, but you're all so shackled to this franchise that you can't stay away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:13:19 No.58168590 Report

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Yep, it's starting. Sage vs Yawn wars: episode XIIVIIV

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:13:31 No.58168592 Report

Quoted By: >>58168598 >>58168814

>>58168566
That scene actually makes sense in context. Seeing as you're an ESL, you don't understand it.

Esa escena tiene sentido en contexto. Como eres inglés como segunda lengua, no la entiendes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:14:11 No.58168596 Report

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>>58168563
>more no u
kwab (kek what a brown)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:14:23 No.58168598 Report

Quoted By: >>58168666

>>58168592
>That scene actually makes sense in context
please point out what context makes it make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:14:33 No.58168599 Report

Quoted By: >>58168603

>>58168580
Yes gen 5. It's one of the most fun generations in my opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:15:06 No.58168603 Report

Quoted By: >>58168669

>>58168599
>Yes gen 5
how is npcs telling me where to go fun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:22:09 No.58168639 Report

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>>58168588
Theres just so much wasted potential. Its one of the best selling game franchises but refuses to innovate and wallows in mediocrity.
Just look how little it changed compared to other games at the time like final fantasy, mario, zelda, megami tensei, Ys, etc...
We don't even get cool spinoffs anymore, its all mobileslop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:23:10 No.58168642 Report

Quoted By: >>58168645

>>58168563
This is now a Latinx thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:23:49 No.58168645 Report

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>>58168642
this was always a latinx thread o algo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:29:58 No.58168666 Report

Quoted By: >>58168670 >>58168673 >>58168714

>>58168598
It demonstrates that Team Plasma are hypocrits. Despite the fact the group seemingly wishes for the liberation of Pokémon, not all of its members actually agree with that notion. It's a lot more apparent later on in the game where some grunts are clearly assholes while others actually believe in the cause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:30:59 No.58168669 Report

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>>58168603
The games have almost always been doing that.
To me, it's a mix of the battles, story and side areas. But to others, it could be something different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:31:08 No.58168670 Report

Quoted By: >>58168686

>>58168666
>It demonstrates that Team Plasma are hypocrits
ok but what part of this requires needing to have them act like retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:32:01 No.58168673 Report

Quoted By:

>>58168666
>It demonstrates that
Stopped reading here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:35:04 No.58168686 Report

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>>58168670
If you're going on about the whole "there were children present" most people won't believe children. There's a reason why child testimonies are worth less than adult testimonies in courts of law.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 05:39:37 No.58168714 Report

Quoted By: >>58168824

>>58168666
>introduce interesting dilemma of pokemon being treated like slaves
>constantly portray the group as evil
>the only member who isn't evil straight up admits you were right at the end
It looks deep at first glance, but isn't actually any deeper or more thought provoking than gen 3 in the context of the plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 06:06:26 No.58168807 Report

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>>58168444
>>58168572
It's easy to make Black/White's plot sound good on paper. It's when you experience the execution firsthand and start noticing all the inconsistencies threaded throughout that how terrible it is becomes painfully apparent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 06:09:10 No.58168814 Report

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>>58168592
>"Don't worry dear player, the premise of our game's story is total bullshit and this isn't a challenging tale about Pokemon liberation at all, but rather a generic take-over-the-world plot with an easily penerated politico-philosophical veneer!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 06:10:15 No.58168818 Report

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>>58168588
>insult Unova
>"YOU HATE POKEMON!!!"
become less transparent

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 06:12:23 No.58168824 Report

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>>58168714
it's shallower and less thought provoking than both Gen III and Gen IV, plots which actually took their underlying themes seriously and did not go out of their way to undermine them nor shove them down your throat, let alone at the simultaneously

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 06:12:55 No.58168825 Report

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