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Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 02:56:10 No.58186597 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>58186623 >>58186790 >>58187024 >>58187027 >>58187040 >>58187111 >>58187171 >>58187176 >>58187198 >>58187516 >>58187847 >>58187888

>Samurott gets a regional form
>Emboar gets a mega evolution

How are the Serperior bros feeling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 03:00:48 No.58186609 Report

Quoted By: >>58186619 >>58186717 >>58186883 >>58187473 >>58187843 >>58188268

Getting a regional replacement is the biggest insult a pokémon can get and it’s always funny seing sammushitters try to pretend it’s a good thing for their precious pooltoy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 03:02:25 No.58186619 Report

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>>58186609
>Getting a regional replacement is the biggest insult a pokémon can get
This. And It's even worse when the regional evolves but the original don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 03:03:11 No.58186623 Report

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>>58186597
I bet she gives the best hugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 03:26:50 No.58186717 Report

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>>58186609
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 03:27:47 No.58186720 Report

Quoted By: >>58186788 >>58186926 >>58187691 >>58188291

Serperior doesn't need a regional. What it needs are MORE FUCKING MOVES

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 03:54:46 No.58186788 Report

Quoted By: >>58186878 >>58186926

>>58186720
Meganium too.
Pokefags are too stupid to realize this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 03:55:25 No.58186790 Report

Quoted By: >>58187017

>>58186597
Serperior is one of the most viable starters in the franchise. Snek can wait. This is the nigga that needs attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 04:35:39 No.58186878 Report

Quoted By: >>58186882

>>58186788
Actually, Meganium is already a perfect Pomémon. It doesn't need anything more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 04:36:44 No.58186882 Report

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>>58186878
>pomémon
I however am not perfect. I need a more responsive internal spellchecker

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 04:37:11 No.58186883 Report

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>>58186609
I like Samurott and I'm happy with its new form. I'm not sure why you think I'm supposed to be upset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 04:49:53 No.58186926 Report

Quoted By: >>58186938 >>58188291

Serp is great though, it's set for life so long as it has Contrary Leaf Storm,
>>58186720
>>58186788
Why does GF hate giving Grass mons coverage so much? Every single water type has had Ice Beam since the dawn of time but I can count the grass Pokemon that get stuff like Thunderbolt, Earth Power or Power Gem on one hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 04:53:38 No.58186938 Report

Quoted By: >>58187045

>>58186926
Because Grass types get access to Leech Seed, Stun Spore, and other useful support moves at the cost of generally poor coverage and Water has no utility moves at all but generally decent coverage. Types are supposed to have unique strengths and weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 05:29:38 No.58187017 Report

Quoted By: >>58187028

>>58186790
Sinnoh starters are never getting megas, regionals, gigantamax or anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 05:32:56 No.58187024 Report

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>>58186597
both are fine but i like regionals waaaay more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 05:33:25 No.58187027 Report

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>>58186597
It's already overpowered. It will probably get a gmax in the next legends game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 05:34:02 No.58187028 Report

Quoted By: >>58187061

>>58187017
Also worth nothing, TPC and Gamefreak want people to forget about Sinnoh in general, they are embarrassed about what they did that gen, and BDSP was made haphazardly so people would shut up about Sinnoh remakes. Hisui was made to replace Sinnoh entirely. The one gen 4 mon they do pay attention to is Lucario who is a Hoenn mon who debuted in the Advanced Generation anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 05:41:53 No.58187040 Report

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>>58186597
I expect serperior to get whatever the next main gimmick is gonna be. Custom moves, maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 05:44:14 No.58187045 Report

Quoted By: >>58187104

>>58186938
You say that when Incineroar gets constant additions to its movepool every game it's in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 05:58:05 No.58187061 Report

Quoted By: >>58187072

>>58187028
>TPC and Gamefreak want people to forget about Sinnoh in general
So that's why they developed an entire spinoff game to expand the lore of a shit region. And now that everyone knows that XY & megas were a mistake, we're getting a spinoff with brand-new megas, so nobody will think about them ever again. That's real 5D chess level strategy there.

>/s

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:04:48 No.58187072 Report

Quoted By: >>58187109

>>58187061
>So that's why they developed an entire spinoff game to expand the lore of a shit region.
As I said earlier, they developed an entire spinoff to replace that region. Kalos in ZA still gets to be Kalos, but in PLA we get "Hisui", a totally different region with only a few references to Sinnoh here and there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:20:26 No.58187104 Report

Quoted By: >>58187149

>>58187045
It's a Dark type and Dark is also a type with a lot of utility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:21:34 No.58187109 Report

Quoted By: >>58187184

>>58187072
> a totally different region with only a few references to Sinnoh here and there
Play the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:22:14 No.58187111 Report

Quoted By: >>58187121

>>58186597
Serperior doesn't need anything. It's already miles better than the other 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:27:21 No.58187121 Report

Quoted By: >>58187130 >>58187158

>>58187111
Once it loses Tera it's back to being shit. It's only offensive moves are Leaf Storm and Dragon Pulse may I remind you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:33:23 No.58187130 Report

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>>58187121
Contrary serp is an objectively strong niche for a starter. It's one of the strongest ones in the vanilla state.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:40:27 No.58187149 Report

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>>58187104
By that logic Incineroar should have a limited movepool.
Rillaboom too, but Pokefags would shriek about how the two "would be dragged down to Meganium's level" and cry genocide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:46:13 No.58187158 Report

Quoted By: >>58187162

>>58187121
Interesting how despite Serperior and Sceptile are guilty of the same shit as Meganium they're given immunity from the same criticism that Meganium is crucified for.
Pokefags are biased and hypocritical as fuck, and "Meganium bad" is a fucking circlejerk that bloats the video list of the average CuckTuber because not a single one is capable of creating any original content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:47:52 No.58187162 Report

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>>58187158
Because those mons are meant to be cool, intimidating attackers. Meganium is clearly defensive and passive in both its design and moveset. Yes, Swords Dance Meganium exists, but why would I even want to use that over Sceptile or Serperior even if they are technically weaker due to questionable design choices?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:54:55 No.58187171 Report

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>>58186597
Serperior got the best hidden ability out of the Unova starters so it evens out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 06:56:28 No.58187176 Report

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>>58186597
Serperior quite literally got Contrary. I think that's a win all its own desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 07:03:24 No.58187184 Report

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>>58187109
>play game
>starters aren’t from sinnoh
>professor isn’t from the sinnoh
>the only returning character isn’t from sinnoh
>all the hisui fanfare for the pokemon is for kanto/johto/unova/kalos etc
>map isn’t called sinnoh
>region itself is an empty wasteland that doesn’t resemble sinnoh
>random ancestors for other region characters but certain important sinnoh characters are absent i.e beni obviously being a callback to the hoenn rival wally, yet the sinnoh rival barry has no presence in the game whatsoever
>none of the ride pokemon are from sinnoh
>none of the noble pokemon are from sinnoh
>origin dialkga and palkia are shitmons that look even more retarded than their regular forms
>the hardest fight in the game are genies not from sinnoh
>only “revisit” to not have a return in the anime or pokespe
he’s right though lol

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 07:06:34 No.58187188 Report

Quoted By: >>58187322 >>58187694

>serperior finally gets its HA
>/vp/ says it will be a nothingburger
>shoots up to OU from shitmon hell
>3 months later /vp/ is swearing the new toy syndrome will wear off any day now
>present day it's undebatably one of the best mons in ORAS and very very good in SM too
I will never forget this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 07:11:50 No.58187198 Report

Quoted By:

>>58186597
Ser-perior

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 08:15:41 No.58187322 Report

Quoted By: >>58187720

>>58187188
It's called adapting to the meta. People were probably hyping up shit like Tornadus and Talonflame. But lo and behold, type advantage is but a small fraction of the pro scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 09:52:25 No.58187473 Report

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>>58186609
>getting something is bad
convince yourself
>only Pokémon they hate receive regional variants
Sure, like Arcanine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 10:21:06 No.58187516 Report

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>>58186597
Lessons learned: don't be a jewish vorenigger.

Asuka

Asuka Sat 30 Aug 2025 11:58:26 No.58187691 Report

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>>58186720
This. To have a decent moveset for him in Gen 5 you are forced to use the move tutor in BW2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 12:00:55 No.58187694 Report

Quoted By: >>58187717 >>58187720 >>58187934 >>58188039 >>58188120

>>58187188
>very very good in SM too
It's UU and not even usable in OU. Even nerfed Talonflame beats it easy. Tera is literally its saving grace right now (hence why Tera should have been banned the first chance they had)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 12:12:35 No.58187717 Report

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>>58187694
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 12:14:15 No.58187720 Report

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>>58187694
See
>>58187322

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 13:06:04 No.58187843 Report

Quoted By: >>58187848

>>58186609
>Pretend

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 13:08:16 No.58187847 Report

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>>58186597
>Got Leaf Storm with the absolute most broken ability to go with it.
Serperior would Unironically get ruined by a Mega because it would change its perfect ability. Can't imagine a regional outperforming it either unless it was intentionally broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 13:08:19 No.58187848 Report

Quoted By: >>58187914

>>58187843
>Gf would rather shill the cooler, stronger and more marketable replacement than the original flop
thanks for proving my point anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 13:13:14 No.58187869 Report

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Give her Draco Meteor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 13:24:29 No.58187888 Report

Quoted By: >>58187893

>>58186597
It's the best Unova starter, it doesn't need a gimmick form to be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 13:25:36 No.58187893 Report

Quoted By: >>58187900

>>58187888
> It's the best Unova starter
the lowest of bar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 13:29:22 No.58187900 Report

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>>58187893
The OP is literally only talking about the Unova starters you fucking goalpost mover

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Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 13:37:31 No.58187914 Report

Quoted By: >>58188086

>>58187848
They rather shill it because it’s both newer and harder to get. Not rocket science

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 13:45:44 No.58187934 Report

Quoted By: >>58187959 >>58187990 >>58188145

>>58187694
>Hence why Tera should have been banned the first chance they had

I don't think tera is likely to carry over to any next gen. Shedinja can't exist in the Pokedex if tera exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 13:56:15 No.58187959 Report

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>>58187934
Omni Rings in Champions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 14:06:11 No.58187990 Report

Quoted By: >>58188120 >>58188310

>>58187934
>electric Tera Shedinja holding air balloon
>still dies to sandstorm chip damage

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 14:27:00 No.58188039 Report

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>>58187694
>It's UU and not even usable in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 14:45:54 No.58188086 Report

Quoted By: >>58188285

>>58187914
>because it's newer

They wouldn't never ever shill the original one though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 14:57:33 No.58188120 Report

Quoted By:

>>58187694
God forbid smogontards adapting. They need to fight so the competitive scenario remains as unchanged as possible for decades to come
>>58187990
Because Sandstorm is so pervasive…

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 15:04:16 No.58188145 Report

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>>58187934
You realize they can just code Wonder Guard to only consider the type matchups of the base types right? Electric Shedinja could still die to ember.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 15:28:44 No.58188215 Report

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Enjoy your G-mememax Serperior in the next Legends game, I guess (lol)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 15:41:53 No.58188268 Report

Quoted By:

>>58186609
Brown hands

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 15:46:02 No.58188285 Report

Quoted By: >>58189163

>>58188086
>They wouldn't never ever shill the original one though.
Agreed, glad we're on the same page. They wouldn't never shill it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 15:48:19 No.58188291 Report

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>>58186720
>>58186926
Serperior and plenty of other grass types should have weather ball but its distribution is limited for absolutely no reason despite all sorts of random shit getting it that has nothing to do with weather
Tropius even has chlorophyll but is cucked out of it for some reason (should probably have heat wave, too)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 15:52:32 No.58188305 Report

Quoted By: >>58188515

I remember Serperior learning Aqua Tail because I used it in a Sword Dance meme set, but apparently I can't learn it anymore

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Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 15:53:54 No.58188310 Report

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>>58187990
>electric Tera Shedinja holding air balloon
Heh, nice try kiddo
*breaks your mold and outrages you to death*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 16:51:48 No.58188515 Report

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>>58188305
>Using it as a budget Sceptile
Calm Mind is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Aug 2025 19:45:52 No.58189163 Report

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>>58188285
So you admit that regional replacement are humiliation ritual then

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