>>58202567there's a lot thats contributed to starmies fall, not just boltbeam, it just cant keep up with the times.
if it was in gen 9 it would be laughably out of place in terms of power level. 115 speed doesn't cut it for offensive mons anymore unless you hit as hard as an atom bomb, which starmie doesn't with its measly 100 sp.atk.
in a meta with ghold it wouldn't be able to rapid-spin effectively at all
gets cucked by gambit sucker punch.
if it wants to be strong it would have to run specs, in which case its slower than the likes of darkrai and iron valiant, and if it wants to be fast it has to run scarf, which makes it laughably weak.
even something as nuclear as barrascewda in rain is all the way in NU. I'd be surprised if starmie didn't end up untiered.
