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/ptsd/ - Pokémon the Series Discussion #6

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 06:43:47 No.58227691 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>58235021 >>58236161 >>58246255 >>58250273 >>58259624

Elite Four Bruno edition

/padt/ is completely dominated by Horizons chat. Talk about the 1,339 original series episodes and associated 23 movies here without butting into and disrupting the discussion of Horizons.

>Pokémon TV on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialPokémonTV

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Boobur

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Boobur Tue 09 Sep 2025 06:45:10 No.58227694 Report

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2nd for BOOBUR

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 06:47:13 No.58227698 Report

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SM is peak, Lillie is peak. Serena deserved to get whored out.

Also where is Scott?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:06:44 No.58227733 Report

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>>58227698
SM is carried hard by Rirrie-chan and the other girls

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:13:43 No.58227751 Report

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>>58227698
Ash should had won in XYZ, so he could've had retire at that point, and SM could have been a reboot with Selene as the MC

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:16:38 No.58227758 Report

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>>58227751
I absolutely hated SM but I think this is a great idea. Squandered opportunity not to have chicken chan as the main character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:18:52 No.58227764 Report

Quoted By: >>58228598

>>58227751
>>58227758

I remember back in the early days post XY, that Chicken would be a companion, and theories saying she's Ash's cousin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:19:20 No.58227766 Report

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>>58227751
Ash should win in XYZ and SM should be his vacations as some kind of additional, material award. After that throw the final arc (maybe crossed over with Rainbow Rocket?) and Gen 8 would have Gou as a protag and go full into shilling GO and other spinoffs.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:35:11 No.58227783 Report

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>>58227766
>Gen 8 would have Gou as a protag and go full into shilling GO and other spinoffs.
Nah, Gou is a faggot. The character should never have been invented. It was years too late to capitalise on the momentum from GO anyway.

The Galar anime should have been a) an actual anime adaptation of the games and not a minor part of Journeys like it was and b) had characters from the games as protagonists.

They should have had Gloria be the protagonist, first Scottish character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:38:25 No.58227789 Report

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>>58227751
This or Gloria for JN to follow up Ash's SM victory could've actually saved anipoke. Chicken chan was minor meme celebrity status and Gloria memes were being spammed everywhere, the two of them could've killed as MCs.
And Nemona should've been the protagonist for the SV anime. Her psychopathic battle tendency was such an easy in and they blew it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:48:30 No.58227799 Report

Quoted By: >>58227804 >>58228632

>Could have had Ash and Marnie as a duo
>Got Pokemon Go shilling instead
God…damn…it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:50:57 No.58227804 Report

Quoted By: >>58227807

>>58227799
>ruin marnie by pairing her with a brown boy
no thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:51:59 No.58227807 Report

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>>58227804
Nips aren't brown you stupid cunt. You need your eyes tested

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:52:44 No.58227809 Report

Quoted By: >>58227811

>>58227807
Don't care. Ash is at least 50 shades of brown darker than Marnie.
Besides, Marnie is for Gloria.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:53:19 No.58227810 Report

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>>58227807
Excuse him. He’s a dubtard and thinks that Ash is brown and Brock is black. They’re too mentally challenged.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:53:51 No.58227811 Report

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>>58227809
Ah you're gay so that's why you're retarded, makes sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:55:15 No.58227813 Report

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>>58227811
Cope however you want. Even if Marnie was Ash's sidekick he still wouldn't love her. Better to not taint her image.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:55:47 No.58227814 Report

Quoted By: >>58227815 >>58227853

>>58227810
AY ASH MY NIGGER GET YO ASS UP OUTTA BED WE GOT SOME PURPLE DRANK FO BREKFAST

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 07:56:34 No.58227815 Report

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>>58227814
The consequences of the Netflix adaptation cannot be understated…

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:08:35 No.58227830 Report

Quoted By: >>58227832 >>58227834

>>58226939
>DP and XY are considered the best seasons
Its DP and OS series that considered to be the best.
>they're the only ones that put any weight behind side characters and rivals
A newbie who only existed to be a punching bag and an edgelord that doomed a region yet got rewarded without facing consequences. This ain't weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:09:28 No.58227832 Report

Quoted By: >>58227833 >>58227835 >>58228583

>>58227830
what the fuck are you talking about retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:09:54 No.58227833 Report

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>>58227832
He’s a delusional faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:10:35 No.58227834 Report

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>>58227830
Seething over Alain 24/7 isn't healthy. Get a job Fagmon, they'll never make your power trip fantasies

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:10:53 No.58227835 Report

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>>58227832
Too much of Brock's purple drank potion

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:21:24 No.58227853 Report

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>>58227814
Ayo you gotta let me rape her, Ash!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:30:29 No.58227871 Report

Quoted By: >>58227888 >>58227896 >>58227898 >>58227899 >>58229400

Every time people complain about Misty it just sounds like they self insert as Ash and want to fantasize about having whatever girlfriend Ash has rather than viewing them as actual characters. It sucks because there are some serious flaws with her writing that get drowned out because 90% of her discussion comes from bitter shippers.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:43:03 No.58227888 Report

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>>58227871
That's the case with all the girls who join Ash's party or even exist in the same frame as him. Discussion about the pokegirls gets drowned out by the self inserters who want to fuck them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:51:20 No.58227896 Report

Quoted By: >>58227897 >>58227900

>>58227871
>people Misty terrible because she offered nothing of worth to the anime
>"90% of her discussion comes from bitter shippers."
We could be here all day talking about Misty's character for ages, and your brain would not compute anything but "le shipping" just to make yourself feel "right".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:52:39 No.58227897 Report

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>>58227896
>*people call Misty terrible
Dammit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:52:39 No.58227898 Report

Quoted By: >>58229391

>>58227871
Every girl after misty had the same personality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:53:10 No.58227899 Report

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>>58227871
You can tell someone's dumb when their issue with the character is "She's too mean to Ash" it usually means they're self inserting and want Ash to travel with companions they can imagine fucking.
The real issues surrounding her are simply that literally all of her subplots are completely terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 08:54:34 No.58227900 Report

Quoted By: >>58227908

>>58227896
I don't know how you read my post saying that the shipping discussion was tiresome and concluded that I somehow meant that all critique ofMisty is shipping.
I am not dismissive of people who like her or Serena, but you know for a fact that for Pokegirls and ESPECIALLY those two the discussion is tainted by angry shippers who's priority isn't criticizing the writing but pushing the legitimacy of their favorite ship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 09:03:54 No.58227908 Report

Quoted By: >>58227911

>>58227900
There have been instances in these threads where issues surrounding Misty's characters have been brought up, some not even involving Ash in any capacity. So why couldn't (You) offer anything of worth to those times?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 09:07:28 No.58227911 Report

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>>58227908
Fair point. That was not my opinion at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 09:27:24 No.58227933 Report

Quoted By: >>58227934 >>58227944 >>58228545

>Shippingshit
>Low tier /pol/shit
>Immediate SM vs XY shitflinging
This is just /padt/ but only with the terrible posts ffs. Just end /ptsd/, this is the rebirth of the cancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 09:28:29 No.58227934 Report

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>>58227933
Or just make it a weekly thread, having a general invites all kinds of mebtal illness

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 09:36:24 No.58227944 Report

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>>58227933
You say this every thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 11:57:17 No.58228153 Report

Quoted By: >>58228247

>>58227751
Ash wouldn't be retired after winning a regional league. Did he retire after Alola? No.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 12:56:05 No.58228247 Report

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>>58228153
>Did he retire after Alola? No.
Unfortunately.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 14:07:31 No.58228407 Report

Quoted By: >>58228919 >>58229101

It does suck that we never had Ash and Nemona interact. They could have gave her a one off episode in MPM

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 15:13:53 No.58228545 Report

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>>58227933
Or maybe you could ignore this thread and stay in your hugbox like the faggots here do about modern /padt/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 15:32:34 No.58228583 Report

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>>58227832
I am talking about XYfags insistence on XY series being the most important despite it got mogged by Youkai Watch. Truth is that the anime only needs three things for another XY series --
> 1. Ash aura-farming
> 2. High budget animation with better artstyle
> 3. An very attractive lead girl as Ash's love interest.
Its that easy, if SM series never changed artstyle and maintain same high budget animation as XY&Z with Ash on cooler clothes and Mallow as his new love interest than all the XYfags would have praised SM series as the best even if nothing else changed.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 15:38:17 No.58228598 Report

Quoted By: >>58228606

>>58227764
Reminder of what we could've had.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 15:39:19 No.58228606 Report

Quoted By: >>58229056

>>58228598
Reminder of what we got instead.

God I hate SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 15:49:26 No.58228632 Report

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>>58227799
They'd probably want Team Yell to last longer than 2 episodes so for a SwSh series they'd probably go with Sonia as the Brock analogue and Misty as the female lead..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 15:54:21 No.58228646 Report

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>>58227758
If Ash is ever confirmed to hook up with any girl from the franchise, I want it to be her, just so everyone can collectively facedesk after hyping up the event six months in advance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 17:11:59 No.58228817 Report

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How would you make a Battle City arc work with Pokémon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 17:51:40 No.58228919 Report

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>>58228407
When we see adult ash, nemona will be his wife. Screencap this post.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 18:24:31 No.58229007 Report

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I'm happy Cynthia's VA got to be on the show one final time...
RIP, never forgotten...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 18:45:54 No.58229056 Report

Quoted By: >>58231598

>>58227751
>>58227758
>>58228606

What kind of niche Chicken chan would even have? The SM cast already felt bloated already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 18:57:12 No.58229101 Report

Quoted By: >>58229153

>>58228407
But Ash isn't addicted to battles like Nemona is. Why do people pretend he is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 19:18:13 No.58229153 Report

Quoted By: >>58229170

>>58229101
Because starting around XY and SM, but especially Journeys, the writers started pushing for Ash to be more of a battle obsessed autist than ever before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 19:23:11 No.58229170 Report

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>>58229153
Not enough to call him an obsessed battle autist like Nemona. Even Leon was more obsessed than him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 20:39:09 No.58229391 Report

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>>58227898
This is not true at all. Dawn and Serena are very much different from Misty amd each other. May had some similar traits but she was different as well. You could say Iris was equal to early OS Misty though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Sep 2025 20:41:32 No.58229400 Report

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>>58227871
I will be really honest. I was shocked by how bad Misty was in the first few episodes of OS. Particularly, the Caterpie episode she was such a cunt.

Though I like when Misty was mean because Ash was kinda mean back to her too. They were just kids that liked getting under their friend's skin and I appreciate that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 01:49:53 No.58230484 Report

Quoted By: >>58230522 >>58230541 >>58231607 >>58232827

What went wrong with Serena?

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 02:00:46 No.58230522 Report

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>>58230484
They made her as a love interest, but Ash has to be dense the entire time.
It's NaruHina without the ending payoff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 02:04:00 No.58230541 Report

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>>58230484
They nerfed her for some reason.
Does Yajima have a misogynist streak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 02:09:54 No.58230562 Report

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>>58227751
Issue is, they didn't give Ash a good final opponent in XY.

Sure the viewer knows Alain from his special episodes, but Ash barely knew him, there's no friendship, there's no rivalry. A victory in Kalos would've been hollow (they should've swapped Alain with Shota/Sawyer and it would've been better)

Ash and Gladion were friends and rivals who respected each other and had many adventures together. Ending the league with a battle against this good friend/rival and then following it with a father and son battle was the best way to handle a league victory

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 02:19:02 No.58230596 Report

Quoted By: >>58230616

Alain would've won against Leon if he actually used his strong Pokemon.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 02:21:34 No.58230609 Report

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 02:23:08 No.58230616 Report

Quoted By: >>58231303

>>58230596
>wasn't allowed to use all gimmicks like Ash was
>didn't get to use his full team against Champion "I'm only known for my Charizard meaning I have an advantage when team sizes are smaller" Leon like Ash did
The director had a hateboner for Alain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 02:53:56 No.58230730 Report

Quoted By: >>58231004

I have an autistic copout that I think only I would like
Pokemon XY or BW should have been a continuity reboot like the I Choose you movie. The entire Kalos series doesn't acknowledge any prior series.
Throw the shippers a bone. Ash marries Misty at the end of Johto. Then Serena at the end of Kalos. It makes no difference because Ash's characterization is so different between those seasons that he's effectively a different character.

I am a shipperfag. A MULTI shipperfag. I have been shipping for years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 02:59:21 No.58230744 Report

Quoted By: >>58230758 >>58230765

>>58230609
>finally give Ash a fully evolved pseudo
>release it shortly after its evolution
>comes back for the league just to job
...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 03:02:31 No.58230758 Report

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>>58230744
It's a callback to OS Ash relying on Charizard even though he hadn't used it in dozens of episodes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 03:04:14 No.58230765 Report

Quoted By: >>58234169

>>58230744

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 03:06:42 No.58230771 Report

Quoted By: >>58230833 >>58234169

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 03:20:56 No.58230801 Report

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they're onto us likobros
https://pokemonbbs.com/post/read.cgi?no=2383902

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 03:31:55 No.58230833 Report

Quoted By: >>58230836 >>58234169

>>58230771
Say whatever you want about the frog but it did have a really cool fighting style

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 03:33:28 No.58230836 Report

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>>58230833
It was robbed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 04:53:44 No.58231004 Report

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>>58230730
>>>>>Misty
If the point was to "throw shippers a bone" it would've been Dawn. It's not like the writers would be aware of all these dub lines that pushed the idea of Misty being in love with Ash, and nips never cared much for that pairing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 08:07:28 No.58231303 Report

Quoted By: >>58231307

>>58230616
> Guy that only Charizard for every fight.
> Take 6 years to get his 2ND onscreen defeat against the World Champion that streamrolled champion of his own region on Master eight after becoming one of the eight strongest trainers in the world
> Oh no, Alain is such an victim, Alain is discarded, please feel sorry for Alain.

Alainfags are exactly like Alain, both share the same victim complex as they thinks themselves to be the only ones suffering in the world when in actuality they suffered absolutely nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 08:09:38 No.58231307 Report

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>>58231303
>ESL
tl;dr opinion discarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 09:49:50 No.58231416 Report

Quoted By: >>58231539

Let's be honest Alain was the only reason people cared about the anime again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 11:11:53 No.58231539 Report

Quoted By: >>58233403

>>58231416
> Alainfags actually thinks that
XY&Z got freaking mogged by Youkai Watch so I guess Alain caused people to stop caring about Pokémon anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 11:39:22 No.58231598 Report

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>>58229056
>What kind of niche Chicken chan would even have?
Gigachad

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 11:42:10 No.58231607 Report

Quoted By: >>58232698 >>58232710

>>58230484
I like her and amour but they shouldn't have toned down her personality from the first couple of episodes. It's been noticed by a lot of people that she is toned down a lot after the very beginning of XY.

Other than that, not doubling down with the romance. The way they ended things was ONLY ever going to be enough if they actually followed it up, which they didn't.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 14:19:16 No.58232283 Report

Quoted By: >>58232715

Comfy kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 15:43:58 No.58232698 Report

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>>58231607
Ash in the early XY series behaved more like SM Ash. Those who doubt this should rewatch the first two XY episodes. It seems the writing staff had a different idea initially, but an executive probably scrapped it, wanting Pokémon to resemble modern Naruto.

In the original Pokémon writing style, Serena would likely be a proper, prim, beautiful lady whom every guy admires but has a temper and odd quirks, like Nurse Joy, Jasmine, and Lacey. Her crush on Ash would be treated as a quirk rather than a subplot. Serena as an assertive simp who openly flirts and makes moves on Ash fits better than a submissive one waiting for her crush to confess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 15:46:10 No.58232710 Report

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>>58231607
>toned down
Nigga she just started interacting with people other than her mom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 15:47:15 No.58232715 Report

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>>58232283
>they put Misty behind the snowman because they knew how dumb it would look to have her standing there building a snowman in short shorts and a crop top.
Heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 16:09:30 No.58232827 Report

Quoted By: >>58233707

>>58230484
I never cared about Serena but the real problem was that they tried to shove romance (one-sided at that) in just another season instead of THE FINAL SEASON, granted you can say they probably tried to end Ash's run in XY and some autist stopped them

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 17:08:31 No.58233070 Report

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 18:33:28 No.58233403 Report

Quoted By: >>58233441

>>58231539
SM got freaking mogged by Youkai Watch even harder. That's because Alain wasn't the protagonist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 18:43:37 No.58233441 Report

Quoted By: >>58233457

>>58233403
>SM got freaking mogged by Youkai Watch even harder.
Please Youkai Watch started to die during SM series, specially when they tied to be mature serious anime like XY&Z and Horizons with Shadowside.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 18:46:34 No.58233457 Report

Quoted By: >>58233581

>>58233441
So Alain freaking mogged Youkai Watch and SM was such a flop that it died even without Youkai Watch. At this point it's obvious Alain was the only reason people cared about the anime again.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:08:08 No.58233570 Report

Quoted By: >>58234209

> Serena interacts with Ash the same way as Mallow.
> Serena and Ash interact like stereotypical childhood friends after the time skip.

Which is better? Serena's new personality in the JN series is fine, but her poor interaction with Ash remains an issue. It took me a while to realize personality and character interaction differ because of MPM episode 02. Koharu shares Rikka's aloof personality from SSSSS Gridman but never gained similar popularity due to her weak interactions with Ash and Goh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:10:13 No.58233581 Report

Quoted By: >>58233588

>>58233457
> Alainfags are trolling again
XY&Z mogged by Youkai watch while SM series perform better than Youkai Watch. It proves Alain to be the reason people stop caring about pokemon anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:11:16 No.58233588 Report

Quoted By: >>58233657

>>58233581
Please Alain is the only reason people got excited for the anime again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:30:52 No.58233657 Report

Quoted By: >>58233664

>>58233588
Yet the XY series is often mentioned for Ash's coolness, his love interest, and its sakuga animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:32:08 No.58233664 Report

Quoted By: >>58233703

>>58233657
not SM or JN so this proves Alain is the only reason people gave a damn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:40:08 No.58233703 Report

Quoted By: >>58233711

>>58233664
>not SM or JN
SM series will always be remembered for Ash league win and fun characters like Lana & Kiawe. JN series will be remember for Ash becoming World Champion, Those two will already be more relevant than a nothing series like XY&Z series.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:40:45 No.58233707 Report

Quoted By: >>58233719

>>58232827
>they probably tried to end Ash's run in XY and some autist stopped them

I'm fully convinced this is what happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:41:06 No.58233711 Report

Quoted By: >>58233712

>>58233703
>SM series will always be remembered
for being a flop. Face it Alain was what saved the pokemon anime but the chuuni executive got jealous and removed him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:43:34 No.58233712 Report

Quoted By: >>58233715

>>58233711
>>SM series will always be remembered for being more successful than XY/XY&Z and performing better than Youkai Watch after Alain ruined the anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:44:21 No.58233715 Report

Quoted By: >>58233727

>>58233712
In fact SM flopped so hard that even Yokai Watch trying to copy Alain and it flopped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:45:28 No.58233719 Report

Quoted By: >>58233722

>>58233707
Nope considering how distant XY and XY&Z were to past series. Even Professor Oak and Delia barely appeared in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:46:23 No.58233722 Report

Quoted By: >>58233734

>>58233719
And this proves that Alain is what made the anime interesting again because there no connection to Ash past

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:47:39 No.58233727 Report

Quoted By: >>58233733

>>58233715
>In fact
XY&Z flopped so hard due to Alain that OLM mimicked Yo-kai Watch with the SM series, which succeeded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:48:56 No.58233733 Report

Quoted By: >>58233739

>>58233727
>XY&Z
More interesting than SM which is why people talk about it instead of SM

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:49:05 No.58233734 Report

Quoted By: >>58233741

>>58233722
>And this proves that Alain is what made the anime interesting again
Which proves Alain was such a bad characters that writers had to avoid mentioned anything from past series, no wonder XY&Z flopped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:50:06 No.58233739 Report

Quoted By: >>58233753

>>58233733
>SM
More interesting than XY&Z which is why people talk about it instead of XY&Z.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:50:17 No.58233741 Report

Quoted By: >>58233746

>>58233734
>Which proves Alain was
Why XY so popular. In fact if it were not for Ash not being interested in girls then XY be even more popular with Ash x Serena.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:52:22 No.58233746 Report

Quoted By: >>58233753

>>58233741
>>Which proves Alain was
Why XY&Z so unpopular to the point kids preferred Youkai Watch over XY&Z.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:52:28 No.58233748 Report

Quoted By:

>Homeless lolcow Famon getting poked around by another bored anon
Can the mods just permaban the former and call it a day? The threads dip in quality the moment that hobo opens his mouth for his fantasies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:54:04 No.58233753 Report

Quoted By: >>58233762

>>58233739
>More
bland and uninteresting than XY&Z because nobody talk about it.
>>58233746
>Why XY&Z so
popular that people always talk about it and cannot go one minute without talk about Alain or Serena.

In fact if you cannot prove that Alain and Serena the whole reason people got excited for the anime again then I not reply to you anymore because at this point it's obvious that it looks like people lose interest in SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 19:57:58 No.58233762 Report

Quoted By: >>58233774

>>58233753
>XY&Z
Bland and uninteresting than SM because nobody talk about it.

>popular that people always talk about it
People always talk about Ash and his series, XY&Z is only mention because Ash was "cool" there and Serena is popular because she simps over Ash instead of Alain.

>In fact if you cannot prove that Alain and Serena the whole reason people got excited for the anime again
I already did with Youkai Watch's performance, you haven't prove a thing,

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 20:00:42 No.58233774 Report

Quoted By: >>58234013

>>58233762
Hmm nope you did not prove anything in fact you only proved even more that Alain and Serena the only reason people gave a damn because SM flop without them and get no discussions.
I am not reply to you anymore because at this point it's obvious you have a hateboner for Alain and Serena and in fact are just a self inserter who angry that Alain stronger than Ash and needed to be sabotaged to lose to Leon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 21:15:26 No.58234013 Report

Quoted By:

>>58233774
>Hmm nope you did not prove anything
I have proved that XY&Z failed to compete with Youkai Watch which lead to SM series being so wakey. The only reason some people are still obsessed with XY&Z is because of their idea of "Cool" Ash and Serena as his love interest.

If JN series had more budget and Serena became the third research fellow with Ash & Goh than all XYfags would have considered JN series as the best series.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 21:19:25 No.58234021 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 22:03:27 No.58234169 Report

Quoted By: >>58234231

>>58230765
>>58230771
>>58230833

We need Yajima back. I can't believe he only worked 1 year as an action director for Horizons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 22:14:51 No.58234209 Report

Quoted By: >>58234219

>>58233570
>Koharu shares Rikka's aloof personality from SSSSS Gridman but never gained similar popularity due to her weak interactions with Ash and Goh.

Anon she was NEVER going to be Rikka's popularity because Rikka is a set of fat thighs. AniPoke post-Adv is too infantile to have sex appeal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 22:17:22 No.58234219 Report

Quoted By:

>>58234209
You're wasting your time on a deranged fucker who wants characters to be virtually everyone else except themselves:
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/search/image/fkWOAuU-rJskITtktud7Lw/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 22:21:11 No.58234231 Report

Quoted By: >>58234235 >>58234478

>>58234169
>can't believe he only worked 1 year as an action director for Horizons.
I'm not interested in that series but the fucker can direct fight scenes good enough, what happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 22:24:27 No.58234235 Report

Quoted By:

>>58234231
Contract expired. Are you morons unaware of different forms of employment for animation work? XY was largely carried by a shit ton of freelancers who did one episodes inbetween.

God the brain cells went down the gutter on this board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 22:49:39 No.58234289 Report

Quoted By: >>58234302 >>58234521

> Game Bugsy is humble, anime Bugsy is witty and snarky.
> Game Whitney is a crybaby, anime Whitney genki and mature.
> Game Jasmine is sweet, anime Jasmine is more serious and strict.
> Game Clair is stuck-up and arrogant, anime Clair is honourable & fair.

Which version you preferred?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 22:52:36 No.58234295 Report

Quoted By:

You seeking employment instead of asking shit about the anime and then getting anal not even a full hour later about not getting the answers you wanted to hear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 22:53:52 No.58234302 Report

Quoted By:

>>58234289
You seeking employment instead of asking shit about the anime and then getting anal not even a full hour later about not getting the answers you wanted to hear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 23:46:21 No.58234477 Report

Quoted By:

Explain this amourniggers lmao
>>58233302
>>58234124
>>58234207
>>58234221

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 23:46:31 No.58234478 Report

Quoted By:

>>58234231
His talent was recognized and he got hired to work on better anime. A lot of the animators and writers also got gobbled up and left after XY.
It really was anipoke's swan song.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Sep 2025 23:56:00 No.58234521 Report

Quoted By: >>58234979 >>58235000

>>58234289
> Game Gary is strong and became champion, anime Gary was nerfed and couldn't even beat an elite 4
> Game Misty is a strong gym leader, anime Misty was nerfed and forced to babysit Ash
> Game May is a proud daughter of a Gym leader and became champion, anime May was a nerfed disappointing daughter of a Gym leader and afraid of pokemon
> Game Serena is a powerful condifent rival to the champion, anime Serena is a nerfed wimp who based her entire life around a boy who doesn't even love her
I prefer the games. The only thing the anime did right was Ash, Brock, Paul, Hunter J, Nando, and Goh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 02:26:49 No.58234979 Report

Quoted By: >>58235006 >>58235012

>>58234521
>> Game Gary is strong and became champion, anime Gary was nerfed and couldn't even beat an elite 4
That is Blue , not Gary

>Game Misty is a strong gym leader, anime Misty was nerfed and forced to babysit Ash
Game Misty never had a Mega Gyarados

>> Game May is a proud daughter of a Gym leader and became champion, anime May was a nerfed disappointing daughter of a Gym leader and afraid of pokemon
>> Game Serena is a powerful condifent rival to the champion, anime Serena is a nerfed wimp who based her entire life around a boy who doesn't even love her
Correction, it was the player's accomplishment..
Anime May definitely the most well written character in the show. She had the most character development among lead girls. Can't defend XY and XY&Z series since it was screwed to glorify Alain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 02:31:39 No.58235000 Report

Quoted By:

>>58234521
>The only thing the anime did right was ... Goh.
Cool bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 02:32:26 No.58235006 Report

Quoted By:

>>58234979
>Anime May definitely the most well written character in the show.
I think she was written alright, but I think she is too good too soon. I think Dawn and Serena are more interesting on that regard. But it's my personal opinion, of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 02:33:48 No.58235012 Report

Quoted By: >>58235080

>>58234979
>That is Blue , not Gary
So you admit Ash got an easier rival than Red
>Game Misty never had a Mega Gyarados
mega did not exist in gen 1
>Correction, it was the player's accomplishment.
Nope this is proof you did not play the games
>Anime May definitely the most well written character in the show
Yep except for the fact she is afraid of pokemon despite being a gym leader's daughter which was done to nerf her just like everyone else was nerfed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 02:35:37 No.58235021 Report

Quoted By:

>>58227691
When will Aldith return to the series? Do you enjoy her character?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 02:47:45 No.58235080 Report

Quoted By: >>58235083

>>58235012
>you admit Ash got an easier rival than Red
Gary wasn't easy however Ashnime Pokémon World was more tougher since Pokémon league are just a building and everybody is programmed to make the players happy.
>mega did not exist in gen 1
Gen 01 wasn't any better than anime Misty.

>this is proof
That you are the one who doesn't understand the game.

>she is afraid of pokemon despite being a gym leader's daughter
You mistook May for Lillie, May simply didn't like pokemon until she met Ash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 02:48:55 No.58235083 Report

Quoted By: >>58235438

>>58235080
So basically everyone was nerfed in the anime.
At this point it's obvious that I rather prefer the stronger game characters. In fact if Serena was not nerfed she probably have beaten up Alain to defend Ash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 04:59:13 No.58235438 Report

Quoted By: >>58235445

>>58235083
>So basically everyone was nerfed in the anime.
Nobody is seeing Steven's Metagross throwing hands with Primal Groudon and Kyogre in the games, that only happens in the anime, so you're wrong already.
None of the game protags are on Ash's level, self-inserter. By design, Ash transcends the game's limitations. If Ash is having trouble, then the game protags would get embarrassed even more in his shoes. Red? A Ritchie victim.
It's a point of exposing who the real frauds are if they can't give Ash a real challenge. None of those characters from the games, the pussies, are built for the anime world. They're fucking twigs and the pokemon they raise are shitters when compared to Ash who transcends the confines of the games canonically. Ash doesn't need his pokemon to win, they would get their entire skeletons shattered from a single tackle from Ash, the guy that will throw hands with any villain on sight. Fact, game characters that are added to the anime and become a complete part of its world are upgraded versions from their game counterparts in terms of being a trainer. Lyra was the weakest of the bunch and couldn't find any meaningful way to survive as a trainer and had to live as a breeder instead. Gold, in his brief appearance in a movie was getting his team flossed by Ash's. The guy who beats Red isn't even worth the effort. Ash when he was added to MasterSex was getting the hype like he deserved and Red wanted to fight him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 05:00:41 No.58235445 Report

Quoted By: >>58235465

>>58235438
How would you react if Alain try to bully Ash but then Serena mega evolve Absol and one shot Alain Mega Charizard X humorosly. This basically prove that Serena only nerfed so chuuni executive can promote he OCs.
Then Serena could mentored Ash to mega evolve his pokemon so Ash can defeat Alain by himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 05:06:37 No.58235465 Report

Quoted By: >>58235472

>>58235445
Never gonna happen, Serena is Lyra tier, aka could not survive in the anime world as a trainer in the transition because she was too weak from the games. Every brief protag appearance shows them to be underachievers because they don't have the players to carry them. The worst case is Red who jobs consistently to everyone once he stops being the protagonist. Gold victim. Nate victim. Selene Victim. The Let's Go Pikachu protag's victim. I could go on. Game protags are not fighting on their own, every fight is actually a 2v1 because they have the players themselves commanding them. This is clear cut that without them they do not go far in the anime. Meanwhile, Ash is a true self-made man who needs zero player input to become what he is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 05:08:42 No.58235472 Report

Quoted By:

>>58235465
How would you react if Tobias met May from the games and she one shot his Latios and Darkrai with her Mega Rayquaza and Primal Groudon humorosly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 05:21:39 No.58235487 Report

Quoted By: >>58235501

So, why is this faggot here instead of his thread baiting that other retard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 05:29:00 No.58235501 Report

Quoted By: >>58235520

>>58235487
What faggot? The ESL one who throws a fit whenever someone doesn't agree with his SI or coom fantasies and can't stop seething about Alain, not realising he's cancer to the discussion or people dip when he's awake and when prompted blames everyone else instead? Or the one mockingly mimic the aforementioned ESL in a case example to make it clear how stupid his tantrums are?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 05:41:39 No.58235520 Report

Quoted By:

>>58235501
Both, Famon goes away if you ignore him but the other guy is just baiting him

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 12:28:51 No.58236161 Report

Quoted By:

>>58227691
For a long time, I thought this guy was Ash's father.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 12:59:28 No.58236211 Report

Quoted By: >>58236687

>>58227751
>>58227758
In any case with SM's formula Selene could easily slot herself in as one of the students. Wonder what her starter or team would be.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 16:37:41 No.58236687 Report

Quoted By:

>>58236211
Gloria also could have been the third research fellow with Ash and Goh.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 19:56:18 No.58237174 Report

Quoted By: >>58237202 >>58237219 >>58238450 >>58239516 >>58239774

Bruh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 20:02:49 No.58237202 Report

Quoted By: >>58239458

>>58237174
That's an alright modern adaption. My only complaint is how zoomed it is on the right, unless for some reason the screenshotter didn't capture the full thing. The little gate at the bottom, the dirt road with large rocks strewn about, and the little guardrail at the corner at important amounts of soul.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 20:08:45 No.58237219 Report

Quoted By:

>>58237174
>removed the two windows on the roof
Sovlless

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 20:10:02 No.58237226 Report

Quoted By: >>58237280

This bitch was evil

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 20:30:43 No.58237280 Report

Quoted By: >>58237281 >>58237293

>>58237226
How long would it take this woman to kidnap Liko and Terapagos and deliver them to Gibeon? My guess: 15 minutes max.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 20:31:12 No.58237281 Report

Quoted By:

>>58237280
>kidnap
Liko would be dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 20:34:43 No.58237293 Report

Quoted By: >>58237314

>>58237280
>15 minutes
That's not how the anime pacing works. It would take at least 60 episodes for her to do anything meaningful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 20:42:31 No.58237314 Report

Quoted By: >>58237319

>>58237293
Please don't compare her to Likonime character. Hunter J is smart, resourceful, has an army of competent grunts and completely unhinged. RVT only has Friede as any actual fighter while everybody else are useless. By the time Friede know what happened, he and the entire RVT would be petrified by J's handgun as she takes Liko and Terapagos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Sep 2025 20:44:18 No.58237319 Report

Quoted By:

>>58237314
Oh you're just a salty faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 03:24:21 No.58238450 Report

Quoted By:

>>58237174
ruined

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 03:44:17 No.58238482 Report

Quoted By: >>58238495 >>58238933 >>58239018 >>58258586

I like Ash's house, also kinda funny how all his friends are basically rich

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 03:49:39 No.58238495 Report

Quoted By:

>>58238482
Home...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 07:04:51 No.58238933 Report

Quoted By: >>58239065

>>58238482
Which makes Ash more accomplished, no magic bloodline or special rich parents.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 07:41:01 No.58239018 Report

Quoted By:

>>58238482

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 07:54:47 No.58239065 Report

Quoted By: >>58239182 >>58240287

>>58238933
He literally has the most special bloodline in the world proven by the lucarios and his mother is rich enough to afford a house near the professor of the region plus all of Ash's travel and pokemon ranching fees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 08:56:51 No.58239182 Report

Quoted By: >>58239189

>>58239065
>He literally has the most special bloodline in the world proven by the lucario
Multiple people has Lucario and cau use Aura as proven by Roy. Forget bloodline, we don't even know who Ash's father supposed to be.

>his mother is rich enough to afford a house
You mean a small house in a countryside too poor to afford a pokemon center? What ? Did you expect Ash's family to be homeless?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 09:01:46 No.58239189 Report

Quoted By: >>58239251

>>58239182
Yeah, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 09:34:09 No.58239251 Report

Quoted By:

>>58239189
Yeah yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 10:36:40 No.58239458 Report

Quoted By: >>58239489

>>58237202
>That's an alright modern adaption.
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 10:40:07 No.58239467 Report

Quoted By: >>58239699 >>58239727

Are Blue and Gary the same person? Since Professor Oak can have multiple grandchildren and we have never seen Daisy Oak in the show despite being Blue's older sister. Maybe she never appeared to cheer for her younger brother because Gary wasn't her brother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 10:48:54 No.58239489 Report

Quoted By:

>>58239458
>noooo the image isn't blurry and washed out with a piss and shit bloom filter!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 10:57:40 No.58239516 Report

Quoted By: >>58239548 >>58239552

>>58237174
ICY mogs. Too bad the real Ashime wasn't like ICY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 11:18:21 No.58239548 Report

Quoted By:

>>58239516
You mean a series where Ash was a massive mary sue? No thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 11:19:22 No.58239552 Report

Quoted By: >>58241648

>>58239516

You mean the movie where Ash was a massive mary sue? No thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 12:14:04 No.58239699 Report

Quoted By: >>58239755

>>58239467
>Are Blue and Gary the same person?
Yes. The "Red" and "Blue/Green" names weren't canonized as THE official names until gen 2, so during 1, official marketing etc was pretty inconcsistent on whether they called the protagonist character "Red" or "Satoshi". The initial announcement of the anime even said the main character would be Red, so it's possible the anime was originally meant to use these names and they got changed to Satoshi and Shigeru later because those sound more normal.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 12:27:57 No.58239727 Report

Quoted By:

>>58239467
Ritchie is "Blue"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 12:35:36 No.58239755 Report

Quoted By: >>58239765

>>58239699
But Ash and Red already confirmed different person so we can't tell if Gary & Blue are same person. Maybe this is why Gary haven't became the gym leader of Viridian city because the anime can't make up their mind on Gary and Blue being separate or same person.

Also Red and Leaf doesn't appear in same timeline except on LGPE. So maybe Ash is in the world where Leaf took Red's place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 12:39:09 No.58239765 Report

Quoted By:

>>58239755
>Contradicting stances
>In the same post
Jesus Christ, just shut up already Fagmon if you're not happy with the answers instead of making an ass of yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 12:43:00 No.58239774 Report

Quoted By: >>58239777

>>58237174
This is an unfair comparison because
>left is from a movie
>right is from BW, the series with the worst backgrounds of any pokémon series

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 12:44:10 No.58239777 Report

Quoted By: >>58241085

>>58239774
Even SM?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 14:24:39 No.58240287 Report

Quoted By:

>>58239065
Are you saying there's higher land taxes next to pokemon professors?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 15:27:09 No.58241018 Report

Quoted By: >>58241046

Ash and Greninja are robbed again to push bunch of uninteresting OC.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 15:30:42 No.58241046 Report

Quoted By: >>58241171 >>58241741 >>58243517

>>58241018
Truly a horror that the games are providing Original Creations instead of catering to something that got recton'd.

Shut up and move on, Alain won.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 15:34:56 No.58241085 Report

Quoted By: >>58241572

>>58239777
scenery was fine in SM, only BW scenery was ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 15:44:14 No.58241171 Report

Quoted By: >>58242701

>>58241046
>Original Creations
I don't really care about the frog but you guys know that while Yajima asked for a special mon it was GF the ones to pick Greninja and created the Ash-Greninja, right? It wasn't some anime original bullshit design but a GF one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 16:28:21 No.58241572 Report

Quoted By:

>>58241085
What about DP's colors? Weren't they as neon as BW?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 16:35:33 No.58241648 Report

Quoted By:

>>58239552
He was more accomplished. The only mary sue was the original Ash who had a special lucario bloodline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 16:44:10 No.58241741 Report

Quoted By: >>58242587

>>58241046
Is it graphics or Greninja's body become black?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 17:10:21 No.58241994 Report

Quoted By:

> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LnMIaFV4q6M&pp=ygUOZ3VuZGFtIGdxdXV1dXg%3D [Embed]
> Ash : A city with the area of 105.4 km2 & population of 2.048 million going though urban redevelopment plan to be a place for human & pokemon. But under all those light , there are darkness not many know or wants to know.
> Ash : A Battle Royal where you rank up to make a wish come true?
> Naveen : No decent person should enter Z-A Battle Royal
> Emma : I am Emma
> Ash : I am ....... Ash Ketchum
> Mimi : Nyann
> Ash : Thats so cute
> AZ : Hey boy, want try Z-A Battle Royal?
> Jett : Don't involve kids, they might get killed
> Vinnie : They are still children
> Corbeau: Z-A battle Royal is life and death brat
> AZ: : Its a Battle Royal on Battle Zone at night where you defeat enough opponents to earn point and rank up
> Emma : Did you see otherside?
> Ash : Trust me, we will win.
> Rotomdex: zzzzzzt don't underestimate Ash zzzzzzt .
> Ash : Wanna enter Z-A Royal Together?
> Emma : Mimi is saying ......... fight.
> Greninja battle multiple pokemon.
> Ash runs and jump to another building
> AZ : That kid can understand the innate feelings of those rouge pokémon, he might be our true ace
> Ash : I have gotta fight..... or lose
> Ash : EMMA
> Emma : ASH
> Ash : GWAHHHHHHHH
> Pokémon The series : ZA
> Ash : What does this city hiding?

This is what Pokemon Legends Z-A anime series should have been,

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 18:52:30 No.58242578 Report

Quoted By: >>58242655

If the fanfic anon is still hanging around, consider doing something with best girl Marble

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 18:53:31 No.58242587 Report

Quoted By:

>>58241741
Grenigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 19:06:56 No.58242655 Report

Quoted By: >>58242668 >>58243557

>>58242578
How about a fanfic where Spinel get outsmarted by Marble? The worst thing that can happen to a narcissist like him is the realization that he is ain't the smartest and somebody he considers dumb is actually smarter than him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 19:08:40 No.58242668 Report

Quoted By:

>>58242655
>Random seething about Spinel unprompted
>In a thread intended, again, for only the Ashnime
Don't you need to seek employment Famon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 19:13:04 No.58242701 Report

Quoted By:

>>58241171
>I don't really care about the frog but you guys know that while Yajima asked for a special mon it was GF the ones to pick Greninja and created the Ash-Greninja, right? It wasn't some anime original bullshit design but a GF one
Yajima wanted some sort of special form for Greninja that would symbolize its bond with Ash the same way a mega evolution would. So he's the one that picked the mon, while GF came up with the actual concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 21:18:56 No.58243517 Report

Quoted By:

>>58241046
> Mega Greninja is better.
So Ash was rodded from Mega Charizard for an inferior anime exclusive Greninja form that jobs to a Mega Charizard and then gets released to clean the mess of that Mega Charizard's trainer.

XY&Z truly is the worst series after Horizons and BW series.,

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 21:27:21 No.58243557 Report

Quoted By:

>>58242655
This isn't the horizons thread. Fuck off

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 21:30:07 No.58243565 Report

Quoted By:

Pallet Town, Home...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:12:07 No.58243799 Report

Quoted By: >>58243888

>Z-A and Gen 10 onwards have ruined Pokemon forever by destroying backwards compatibility
>Mega Evolution for KALOS STARTERS locked behind a paywall and online ranked battles
>Similarly, the anime has gone to shit since Ash retired
The future of Pokemon is grim. No wonder they're going ham with the unreasonable patents. They know they're fucked so their only hope is a monopoly!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:27:20 No.58243888 Report

Quoted By: >>58243906 >>58243923

>>58243799
>the anime has gone to shit since Ash retired
That happened all the way back in BW pal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:31:38 No.58243906 Report

Quoted By: >>58243911

>>58243888
You mean the series notorious for treating Ash badly? Truth is that if Ash remained competent in Unova and there was no Trip and Cameron than BW would have been one of the better series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:32:34 No.58243911 Report

Quoted By: >>58243923 >>58243958

>>58243906
Ash was competent in XY&Z and it was even worse.
Truth is the anime flopped after DP.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:34:20 No.58243923 Report

Quoted By: >>58244420

>>58243888
>>58243911
>back in BW
>after DP
The anime flopped during OS. People lost interest by episode 20 and it was all downhill from there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:40:37 No.58243958 Report

Quoted By: >>58243964

>>58243911
>Ash was competent in XY&Z
Ash lost his entire personality in XY&Z and turned into a boring "popular guy" archetype whose role was jobbing to Alain. In fact XY&Z treated Ash just as badly as BW series but XYfags overlooks this because they only cares about visual and shipping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:41:01 No.58243964 Report

Quoted By: >>58243967

>>58243958
That's because Ash isn't meant to be competent he's meant to be a kodomo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:41:37 No.58243967 Report

Quoted By: >>58244021

>>58243964
>That's because Ash isn't meant to be competent he's meant to be a kodomo.
There are different types of competence, Sheldon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:50:05 No.58244021 Report

Quoted By: >>58244426

>>58243967
Ash is already all the types of competent you can be without being a shonen like Alain and Gundam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:51:13 No.58244027 Report

Quoted By: >>58244033 >>58245681 >>58247306

XY was great you retarded esl newfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 22:52:54 No.58244033 Report

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>>58244027
Wrong in fact it was the worst season ever and it's why Ash had to retire.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 23:06:41 No.58244099 Report

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Even in OS Ash was fucking insane

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 23:57:17 No.58244420 Report

Quoted By: >>58244595

>>58243923
Nani

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 23:58:13 No.58244426 Report

Quoted By: >>58244434

>>58244021
No he does not , there are some thing he is good at but there are also thing he is bad at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Sep 2025 23:59:31 No.58244434 Report

Quoted By:

>>58244426
Maybe he can meet game Serena and she can mentor him to be good at other things. Then Ash will flirt with Serena but she will reject him because she has Calem who is stronger and has captured legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 00:00:56 No.58244443 Report

Quoted By: >>58244450 >>58244461

>Ash will never Mega Evolve Hawlucha
>Ash will never Mega Evolve Greninja
JUST

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 00:02:32 No.58244450 Report

Quoted By:

>>58244443
Technically he will off-screen, they stated that he's still traveling and having adventures

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 00:04:09 No.58244461 Report

Quoted By: >>58244493

>>58244443
>the only pokemon Ash will ever have mega evolved is a shillcario that he only just met
>retards want him to come back so he can mega evolve a shillgonite that he also only just met
FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 00:12:10 No.58244493 Report

Quoted By: >>58244604

>>58244461
Like what's a perfect shilling team for him anyways? Something that can let him use every gimmick
>Lucario/Greninja/Dragonite/Sceptile
>Gengar
>Pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 00:34:37 No.58244595 Report

Quoted By:

>>58244420
That seems to be the AG recap episode, which aired in march 24 2005

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 00:36:29 No.58244604 Report

Quoted By: >>58244608

>>58244493
>Like what's a perfect shilling team for him anyways?
-- Urshifu : single style because Ash already has Dragovish, use Unseen Fist to bypass Terapagos barrier and take it out with Fighting type STAB.
-- Fezandipiti : Fairy type that is immune from Black Rayquaza's Dragon type move, uses its Toxic chain ability to badly poison Rayquaza and defeats it with Fairy type STAB.
--Chien-Pao : Ice type legendary that can defeat Zygarde.
-- Titan Klawf : Single handily can defeat all the legendary heroes except Rayquaza
-- Mega Greninja : Gets Greninja back after resolving the threat of remaining dark vine.
-- Pikachu : That mouse will always be in his team,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 00:37:18 No.58244608 Report

Quoted By:

>>58244604
Horizons lives in your head rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 00:56:14 No.58244710 Report

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https://x.com/Oocanipoketoku/status/1966534949713883194
Guzma deserved more screentime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 04:20:42 No.58245681 Report

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>>58244027
This.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 06:49:58 No.58246255 Report

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>>58227691
When will aldith return to the anime?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 07:54:19 No.58246471 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 08:06:14 No.58246516 Report

Quoted By: >>58246530 >>58246554 >>58247018

>>58227751
>>58227758
>The MC should be a girl!!!!
Have you retards learned nothing from the beige plank of wood that is Liko

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 08:10:31 No.58246530 Report

Quoted By: >>58246554

>>58246516
You say that like Spy x Family and Precure haven't been mogging Pokemon.
The problem with Liko is that she's not even the main character of her own show. Imagine if Misty was introduced first instead of Ash. That's basically how irrelevant Liko is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 08:20:10 No.58246554 Report

Quoted By: >>58246663

>>58246516
>>58246530
The problem is that Liko is flat. Even after the timeskip, she's still flat. No tits and not even ass. If she weren't flat, that would help make up for her having the personality of sandpaper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 08:53:05 No.58246663 Report

Quoted By:

>>58246554
He is talking about her personality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 10:54:57 No.58247018 Report

Quoted By:

>>58246516
>Have you retards learned nothing from the beige plank of wood that is Liko
Haha no I don't want Horizons, I'm not gay or retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 11:27:36 No.58247084 Report

Quoted By: >>58247123 >>58247654 >>58248025

How would you describe DP Ash's personality? He isn't a gentleman like XY Ash, wakey like SM Ash, or serious like Gladion, yet he seems to blend all their traits. He switches between these characteristics seamlessly, without feeling out of character. I can even imagine DP Ash acting like Reiji or Macho from Gundam in Pokémon Horizons.

For example, DP Ash is typically affectionate toward his Pokémon, but in the Gliscor evolution episode, he was harsh with Gligar for its cowardly behavior, which didn't felt out of place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 11:45:14 No.58247123 Report

Quoted By:

>>58247084
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/search/text/Gentleman%20ash%20dp/
How about you get a job instead of rehashing the same shit from years, Fagmon? That's a better use of your timeless as hobo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 12:56:04 No.58247306 Report

Quoted By: >>58247848

>>58244027
I really liked the new ZA trailer but what makes me really sad is that this means that the crappy Horizons season characters are going to be the ones adapting the Kalos remake.

If the ashnime were still ongoing, it'd be way cooler because we'd have gotten stuff like ZA Serena, Clemont, Korrina, maybe even Ash in the XY artstyle but now we'll only get the usual Liko and Roy garbage in a Kalos setting, not gonna lie, it feels like a huge waste of a cool game event in terms of how the anime cast that will cover it is gonna be lame as heck

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 14:55:45 No.58247654 Report

Quoted By:

>>58247084
Ash in DP felt disciplined, trying to learn from experience and mistakes.
Tried to learn from watching Contests, practicing with Dawn, losing to Paul, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 15:55:53 No.58247848 Report

Quoted By:

>>58247306
We likely won't see much from Pokémon Legends Z-A, given how young Emma looks in Roy and Uruto's Mega Evolution special, unless XY and Z-A have only a one-year gap. I wouldn't be surprised if Emma's backstory, her connection with Looker, and her role as Lumiose City detective are ignored, with her merely standing in the corner to talk to Roy for empty fan service.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 16:51:40 No.58248025 Report

Quoted By: >>58248179

>>58247084
>he was harsh with Gligar for its cowardly behavior
What? Pretty sure it was because Gligar wanted the easy way to get stronger, giving the fang without even trying to get better would have been the same as telling your kid it is okay to cheat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 17:37:25 No.58248179 Report

Quoted By:

>>58248025
He was harsh with Gligar before it dump into Gary who give it a Razor Fang. In fact the way Ash refused to give Razor Fangs to Gligar until it proved itself made him feel more mature & grown-up than later version of him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 18:31:55 No.58248377 Report

Quoted By: >>58248439 >>58248512 >>58248622

When is the right time for Ash to reappear? Right now to shill Horizons or during Anipoke's 30th anniversary?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 18:44:20 No.58248439 Report

Quoted By: >>58248493

>>58248377
The later, his retirement is still fresh. Though who knows, maybe they will bring him at the end of Horizons to wank them as better than him or as some kind of sequel, like implying Horizons happened way before he started, be it normal Ash or AU Ash

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 18:50:00 No.58248471 Report

Quoted By: >>58248477 >>58248499 >>58248503

>Four days old
>1/3 is beef over the dub or sub can of worms
>1/3 is the same morons fighting each other over SM and XY
>1/3 are ESLs breaking the point of the threads to seethe about the anime without Ash.
So this is it? This is what 25 seasons has ended up in? This is what allowing the various lolcows and groups to manifest over the years has led to? Just being largely the same echo chamber from around five years ago while pretending this is better than /padt/, not realizing that the cancer wasn't the general itself but the posters who moved their faggotry here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 18:51:43 No.58248477 Report

Quoted By: >>58248509

>>58248471
>but the posters who moved their faggotry here
Indeed, they're here shitting the thread and baiting Famon, Horizonfags I mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 18:55:51 No.58248493 Report

Quoted By:

>>58248439
Rotom-phone proves Horizons takes place at the same time or after JN series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 18:56:51 No.58248499 Report

Quoted By:

>>58248471
Why are you so angry with the existence of this thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 18:57:15 No.58248503 Report

Quoted By:

>>58248471
/padt/ has been cancer ever since the SM era, I have no idea why anyone thought a thread meant to be /padt/-but-for-older-series-only was somehow going to be free of that cancer. Do you think the shitters that posted about SM and PM19 when those series were current weren't going to find this place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 18:58:03 No.58248509 Report

Quoted By: >>58248516 >>58248537

>>58248477
And you're immediately missing the point. The ESL you're claim is getting baited is the one starting shit. Do you not notice the drop in activity whenever he posts or if he isn't happy with the responses? People don't want to get banned for hurting the feelings of a butthurt ESL who isn't getting his hateboner for Alain stroked or feeding into his fanfictions.

Unironically the ones who crippled the Ashnime discussions were the schizo cocksucking the guy from pallet town himself, even going as far as to get a Dawnfag permabanned from discussing something he didn't like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 18:59:20 No.58248512 Report

Quoted By:

>>58248377
Anniversary special AU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 19:00:15 No.58248516 Report

Quoted By:

>>58248509
>even going as far as to get a Dawnfag permabanned from discussing something he didn't like
It was probably some autist Pearlshitter, so no big loss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 19:04:38 No.58248537 Report

Quoted By: >>58248545

>>58248509
>cocksucking the guy from pallet town himself
Oh, you're the guy that for some reason can't say his name and calls him hick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 19:05:54 No.58248545 Report

Quoted By:

>>58248537
>Calls him Hick
I don't even do that.
How much damage was done to the mind that using a word, from the Anime itself mind you, causes this rentfree behavior?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 19:27:28 No.58248622 Report

Quoted By: >>58248697 >>58249176 >>58249469

>>58248377
Never honestly. Now that it's known Rica was a bully it's probably best that Ash doesn't return at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 19:50:36 No.58248697 Report

Quoted By: >>58248702 >>58248706 >>58248838

>>58248622
Ohmori and Sugimori literally said they didn't give a shit about the drama, for them the character is above the VA in the leaks so a voiceless cameo isn't out of the question, or a different VA for an older Ash but we'll get the Samson protocol before that ever happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 19:52:04 No.58248702 Report

Quoted By:

>>58248697
You don't understand how Japanese culture works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 19:53:04 No.58248706 Report

Quoted By: >>58248845

>>58248697
Those two can say whatever the fuck they want but who is gonna put up with a diva who managed to strain a relationship with the voice of Pikachu, the voice of Pokemon's Mascot, that it got mentioned in the documents? They might think that but the rest of Japan won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 20:29:02 No.58248838 Report

Quoted By:

>>58248697
Ohmori and Sugimori are part of the game staff with Gamefreak not the anime staff, of course they dont give a fuck because they dont work in the anime team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 20:30:40 No.58248845 Report

Quoted By: >>58249469

>>58248706
>strain a relationship with the voice of Pikachu
This is the real reason Ash is never coming back. Rica was arrogant enough to piss off the icon of the franchise so now she's never coming back unless the face of Pokemon is feeling merciful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 22:00:53 No.58249176 Report

Quoted By: >>58249185

>>58248622
They would just recast him
>inb4 "Japan doesn't change character VAs"
It happens all the time and they definitely would if they felt it was necessary. Just say the role is recast to represent a "new beginning" for Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 22:03:14 No.58249185 Report

Quoted By: >>58249214

>>58249176
I don't think Rica would take that lying down. She's very egotistical and unstable. Even if they bribed her they'd have to worry about her causing problems. Might not be something they want to risk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 22:08:05 No.58249204 Report

Quoted By:

>still talking about the fake documents
Sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 22:10:22 No.58249214 Report

Quoted By:

>>58249185
Maybe. But Rica isn't a superstar or anything. Pokemon is a huge franchise, it can survive some middle-aged diva throwing a fit.
Most people watch it dubbed in their native language anyway. Would TPC abandon a project with the potential for global success because of a Japan-only controversy? Again, it's possible, but I think the executives would have more sense than to do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 23:01:01 No.58249469 Report

Quoted By: >>58249477

>>58248622
>>58248845
You mean the same leak that insisted Rakua to be an Island on Gen 10 game and Lucius to be a Gen 10 character? Rica and Ōtani worked for 26 years nonstop, if their relationship was that bad than they would last 5 years together .

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Sep 2025 23:02:08 No.58249477 Report

Quoted By:

>>58249469
Cope. Rica got an inflated ego and Otani shot that bitch down back to her place.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 00:12:18 No.58249780 Report

Quoted By: >>58250177

> Lugia doesn't get a scratch even after Ash fought it after PWC.
> Rayquaza nearly gets KO from a flame charge from a lvl 05 Fuecoco.
Ether JN Lugia was too strong or Legendary on Likonime are weaker than Legendary on Ashnime. I mean Ash's Sirfetch'd did tied with Solgaleo on Masters & Red's Charizard defeated Mewtwo on Origin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 02:11:10 No.58250177 Report

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>>58249780
Maybe the Likonime characters could mentor the Ashnime characters.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 02:41:58 No.58250273 Report

Quoted By: >>58250307 >>58250357

>>58227691
Rivals dipped in quality after DP Saga.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 02:53:37 No.58250307 Report

Quoted By: >>58250332 >>58250412 >>58250985 >>58252654

>>58250273
XY had the show's single best rival period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 02:58:58 No.58250332 Report

Quoted By:

>>58250307
Isn't that the VA who was bullied into suicide by Rica

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 03:05:25 No.58250357 Report

Quoted By: >>58250364 >>58250376

>>58250273
Speaking of DP's rivals, what did you guys think about them?
I remember liking Nando and how he participated in both contests and gyms, especially since he was pretty good in both areas (him beating Zoey after she criticized him for not specializing in only one area was pretty satisfying), same with Conway, even if he could be a little annoying and weird at times.
Zoey was also pretty fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 03:07:51 No.58250364 Report

Quoted By: >>58251409

>>58250357
Wasted potential. Barry felt like he was thrown in without any thought, Paul was a nothing character, Nando was gay, and Conway was as dumb as Ash.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 03:10:35 No.58250376 Report

Quoted By:

>>58250357
I'm happy they got introduced early in the show instead of being last minute friends/rivals at the league, like the previous two seasons did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 03:19:17 No.58250412 Report

Quoted By: >>58250985 >>58251258

>>58250307
>appeared in only 5 episodes
>achieved iconic rival status nevertheless
How did she do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 07:43:43 No.58250985 Report

Quoted By:

>>58250307
>>58250412
Please, she wasn't even a rival. Ursula was more of a rival than her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 10:00:07 No.58251258 Report

Quoted By: >>58251409 >>58251894 >>58252146

>>58250412
Miette as a character was pushing the show towards being more mature or more teenage-y I guess, but in a plausible realistic way within the context if the narrative. It's not just about Mietter though, the show in general finally felt that it was progressing in some sorta slow yet steady way.

It's one of the reasons why with SM, OLM had to revert Ash back into mental infancy, the ashnime started naturally evolving into something transcending thr kodomo staple and Masuda was afraid about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 10:58:04 No.58251409 Report

Quoted By: >>58251419

>>58251258
>>58250364
> XYfags are still seething
Miette is not worth calling a rival, we don't even know if she actually likes Ash or teasing Serena so there never was a true rivalry over Ash between them. Same goes to Shouta like Sawyer who was only introduced to lose to Ash because XY couldn't think of a better rival for Ash to defeat except for a eight year old shouta. It shows how much disrespect XY had for Ash for being a better & popular character than their precious little Alain.

DP series on the otherhand had a clash of ideology between Ash & Paul while Barry had fun interaction with Ash and Conway actually had a brain.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 11:01:42 No.58251419 Report

Quoted By:

>>58251409
don't open this image if you don't want to get traumatized

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 14:13:32 No.58251894 Report

Quoted By:

>>58251258
>Miette as a character was pushing the show towards being more mature
What the fuck I'm reading, Jesus Christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 14:52:27 No.58252015 Report

Quoted By:

>watch Johto
>it's "quilwinslol"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 15:36:38 No.58252146 Report

Quoted By:

>>58251258
>Masuda
Masuda has no control over the anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 15:52:54 No.58252197 Report

Quoted By: >>58252205

I miss Ash and friends. Except Goh and Koharu. Fuck them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 15:56:31 No.58252205 Report

Quoted By:

>>58252197
>Except Goh and Koharu. Fuck them.
Ash does. Fuck them, that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 18:13:06 No.58252654 Report

Quoted By:

>>58250307
XYfag delusions are on another level. The only reason she's more "impactful" to you is because waifutards in the threads posting her all the fucking time despite her being a bucket of nothing. Not remotely comparable to a single DP rival

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 18:30:40 No.58252732 Report

Quoted By: >>58253185

OG Type: Wild >>>>>> Nu-Type: Wild

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 20:13:43 No.58253185 Report

Quoted By: >>58253239 >>58253430

>>58252732
The dub's score was also pure kino till gen 6, every opening was really memorable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 20:25:51 No.58253239 Report

Quoted By:

>>58253185
The nu-dub's Serena leitmotif was great, everything else from Gen 6 to present is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 21:18:32 No.58253430 Report

Quoted By:

>>58253185
True. I loved that they at least used the instrumentals of OK! and Advanced Adventure for Ash's Johto and Hoenn battles.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 21:24:32 No.58253454 Report

Quoted By: >>58254530

Rewatching Johto and I realize how fucking good and honestly influential this match was. After Whitney, this was the best example of Ash's growing battle IQ.
Cherry on top would've been Cyndaquil evolving into Quilava and solidifying itself as Ash' Johto ace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Sep 2025 22:55:50 No.58253823 Report

Quoted By: >>58255706

kimetsu no yaiba surpassed the mewtwo movie hahaha the tranime just cant stop losing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 01:27:27 No.58254457 Report

Quoted By: >>58254522 >>58254532 >>58254569 >>58256323

I'm a bit curious about these threads. Are people here mostly people who left /padt/, or were people here never /padt/ posters to begin with? For those who left /padt/, when did that happen and why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 01:45:43 No.58254522 Report

Quoted By:

>>58254457
I left a while ago during SM. Would occasionally lurk during Horizons but those threads were pretty shit.

As for this thread, it felt like a breath of fresh air, but honestly SM sisters and HorizonFags have been tryijg to ruin it instead of sticking to their shitty thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 01:47:56 No.58254530 Report

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>>58253454
Ash's ace should have been Heracross, but when they realize he was too funny and too competent they put him away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 01:48:40 No.58254532 Report

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>>58254457
I checked /padt/ until horizons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 01:58:11 No.58254569 Report

Quoted By: >>58255767 >>58256327

>>58254457
I occasionally checked padt out, but rarely ever posted in there and nowadays I never looked their way since I have no interest in Horizons.
Was kinda hopeful about this thread since it looked like it would have some good discussions, but, predictably, it has been mostly schizos genwarring with XY, SM and Horizons and shitting up the thread every couple of hours. Though the few sparks of genuine discussion here and there have been fun.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 02:03:48 No.58254588 Report

Quoted By: >>58254726 >>58254953 >>58255682 >>58256434 >>58256807

We need an update of this with the PM team

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 02:17:28 No.58254623 Report

Quoted By: >>58254635 >>58254671 >>58255870

Why did Dawn pack sexy clothing such as pic related? What was she planning?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 02:21:10 No.58254635 Report

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>>58254623
Fucking ojisans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 02:31:37 No.58254671 Report

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>>58254623
>What was she planning?
Whoring her ass out for ribbons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 02:47:30 No.58254726 Report

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>>58254588
>Charizard Win Rate: 69%
Nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 04:08:18 No.58254953 Report

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>>58254588
Whats pikachu's winrate?

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Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 04:19:45 No.58254988 Report

Quoted By: >>58260785 >>58260999

>>58254953

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Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 08:40:46 No.58255591 Report

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>Ash-Pikachu looks better than either Mega Raichu X or Y
>Ash-Greninja looks better than Mega Greninja which can literally pass off as Alain-Greninja
You can't make this shit up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 09:19:44 No.58255682 Report

Quoted By: >>58255695

>>58254588
Snorlax has always been one of Ash's GOATs.
>Torterra has a worse win/lose ratio than Torkoal
What the actual fuck?! I forgot about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 09:25:53 No.58255695 Report

Quoted By: >>58256391

>>58255682
The moment Turtwig evolved, it was all over. Turtwigfags were baited with good shit from the start, only for it to evolve and become a jobber, all to emphasize that Ash wasn't as comfortable with slow and bulky mons. Also, because they wanted to shill Infernape as the main starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 09:30:19 No.58255706 Report

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>>58253823
As should be

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 09:56:26 No.58255767 Report

Quoted By: >>58255821 >>58255826 >>58256330 >>58256395 >>58256620 >>58256900

>>58254569
Do people here really just miss Ash that much? From what I've seen, many people were willing to move on from him and most people either just lost interest in the anime altogether or are watching Horizons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 10:16:07 No.58255821 Report

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>>58255767
You're in a thread exclusively for the Ashnime, what did you expect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 10:17:25 No.58255826 Report

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>>58255767
The majority doesn't miss him, it's just an echo chamber here of the same opinions dating back as far as 2018

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Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 10:40:13 No.58255870 Report

Quoted By: >>58255905

>>58254623
what do you think she wanted to do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 10:58:26 No.58255905 Report

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>>58255870
Cute butt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 13:54:33 No.58256323 Report

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>>58254457
>I'm a bit curious about these threads. Are people here mostly people who left /padt/, or were people here never /padt/ posters to begin with?
I was around /padt/ during the 6th generation of the anime, XY and XY&Z.

>For those who left /padt/, when did that happen and why?
I stuck around for a while during the very beginning of the next generation, SM, but very quickly like a lot of people I left. Over time the only people who actually remained in the /padt/ were people who unironically liked the slop that was SM. I went from posting to lurking to stopping looking at it altogether.

I've had zero interest, really negative interest, in anything that has come out of the anime since the end of XY so I've had no reason to return. The only reason I'm on this thread is that it includes parts of the anime I actually care about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 13:56:28 No.58256327 Report

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>>58254569
>Was kinda hopeful about this thread since it looked like it would have some good discussions, but, predictably, it has been mostly schizos genwarring with XY, SM and Horizons and shitting up the thread every couple of hours. Though the few sparks of genuine discussion here and there have been fun.

I've noticed that. A distinct increase in attempts to derail the thread coinciding with freaks posting about how they're unhappy about this thread's existence.

In a I get great enjoyment out of it. Those freaks must be very annoyed about it to be putting this much effort into derailing it. Their rage and upset is like sweet nectar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 13:57:42 No.58256330 Report

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>>58255767
>Do people here really just miss Ash that much?

I never really cared about Ash. The anime would have been better off swapping him out for another character a long time ago.

It's not so much Ash, but when the anime was actually good, that I miss. Most of the time it was good despite Ash, despite having a main character who they artificially kept in stasis for decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 14:13:33 No.58256391 Report

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>>58255695
>Also, because they wanted to shill Infernape as the main starter
Yeah, the monkey always beats two Pokémon in gym battles, so someone else has to lose without doing anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 14:14:04 No.58256395 Report

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>>58255767
I don't particularly miss him, I liked and still like him and his journey, but I was one of the people who agreed they should have replaced him ages ago (or at the very least make him more consistent while allowing him to actually progress, instead of resetting him in one (or multiple) way or another every season, especially after BW), but I also thought a thread to discuss his era of the anime, especially if older seasons like OS were the main focus, could be a nice thing to have every now and then, sort of like a nostalgia thread for the anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 14:25:55 No.58256434 Report

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>>58254588
From the top of my head, Lucario and Dragonite has pretty shitty winrates.
Sirfetch'd jobbed a bit as a Farchetch'd. Dracovish probably has higher rates since it battled very little. Gengar should be high as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 15:40:21 No.58256620 Report

Quoted By: >>58256670

>>58255767
> Do people here really miss Ash that much?
Yes, Horizons proved Ash was essential as the MC, with writers turning Roy into Ash 2.0. I agree that Ash had issues but every long running MC has issues such as Goku still being a manchild or Conan failing to defeat the Black Organization, Ash's issue was not being allowed to progress until the SM series lifted that restriction.

>many people were willing to move on from him
Not many, just a few NEETs who think every anime should rotate protagonists. But protagonist rotation only worked in a few anime under specific conditions that don’t match Pokémon.

>most people either just lost interest in the anime altogether
Because they grow up and moved on with their life instead of clinging into a children anime. The only people who stick around are those who were attach to Ash , Brock. all the leads girls & TRio.

>are watching Horizons.

Most of them are XYfags that want Pokémon to be a wish-fulfillment power fantasy with a wooden character like Jin-woo or Sesshomaru streamrolling all the characters in his path. That’s why they defend Horizons: if it fails and OLM is forced to bring Ash back, he won’t leave, blocking their Pokémon power fantasy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 16:03:50 No.58256670 Report

Quoted By: >>58256822

>>58256620
this pokemon just fail and fuck everything, even beyblade x got more fans than horizons i see more discussion of bayblade x on xwitter than pokemon anime lol and the new digimon anime just is going to kill it even more

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Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 16:46:53 No.58256807 Report

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>>58254588

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Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 16:53:46 No.58256822 Report

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>>58256670
Hehe... even precure is doing better than pokemon

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Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 17:23:32 No.58256900 Report

Quoted By: >>58256956

>>58255767
>Do people here really just miss Ash that much?
No I'm glad Ash finally retired. I think it's actually easier to appreciate the show looking back since it isn't dragging on anymore. A fond memory.

3rd Movie (one of the BEST) is up on Pokemon's YouTube if anyone cares!

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Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 17:44:54 No.58256956 Report

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>>58256900
> Pokémon 3: The Movie
>A crystal catastrophe is unleased upon Greenfield, and Ash, Pikachu, and friends must figure out how to undo the damage to the once-beautiful town. But the unthinkable happens when Ash’s mom is kidnapped by the powerful Entei, a Pokémon thought to have existed only in legend. Now Ash must go to her rescue, uncertain of what he’ll uncover when he unlocks the real secret power behind the unbelievable turn of events: a young girl whose dream world is being turned into a nightmarish reality by the mysterious and unstoppable Unown!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMc00TAQf8w

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 20:01:28 No.58257487 Report

Quoted By: >>58257499 >>58257744

If Horizons took place in Ashnime with Ash as a recurring character, how would he be introduced?
I'd introduce him as a boastful, moody, energetic kid traveling with Rotom-Dex, attempting to catch a Dunsparce but accidentally catching Paldea Tauros repeatedly, referencing his capture of 30 Tauros. Liko and Roy wouldn't recognize him as the world champion due to his different clothes, and I’d delay revealing his identity for proper buildup, gradually showing that this seemingly foolish boy is far stronger than they realize.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 20:04:14 No.58257499 Report

Quoted By: >>58257807

>>58257487
This sounds boring, repetitive to pander to Kanto fanboys and out of character for anyone involved. Do you even bother to understand the SI you crave or do you just want him to be involved in everything just for the sake of it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 20:56:09 No.58257744 Report

Quoted By: >>58257849 >>58258003

>>58257487
>boastful, moody, energetic kid
So like, the hell is wrong with Ash being the polite kid he is? Even in OS he only acted like an asshole against those that were shitting on him, like even in japanese the fucker use more honorifics than Naruto.

He's a nice kid, stupid as fuck, but nice nonetheless

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 21:07:50 No.58257807 Report

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>>58257499
It's painfully obvious you criticize everything I say due to your dislike for Ash, so I never take you seriously.

Keeping Ash as a rereferring character is smarter than betting an entire series on completely brand new group of OC, especially after Alain and Goh failed. If the new OC fails, the anime can still rely on Ash and characters like Cynthia, Looker, Lance, and Team Rocket to draw an audience. Even the original series included game characters like Brock and Misty alongside Ash.

Anime like Digimon, Precure, and Yu-Gi-Oh! has to write new casts of original characters because they aren't video game adaptations and must build characters from scratch. Pokémon, as a video game adaptation, has diverse characters and content for the anime, but OLM mishandles it to push their own original characters.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 21:14:27 No.58257838 Report

Quoted By: >>58259588

Fuck Ash
Fuck Liko
Pokemon should just start from scratch with the game characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 21:16:19 No.58257849 Report

Quoted By: >>58259686

>>58257744
>So like, the hell is wrong with Ash being the polite kid he is?
Because kids are rarely polite, they are either strong or timid. You should know this if you handle children. This makes XY Ash feel out of character for his age and fail to relate to the target audience.

Original Ash wasn't truly polite; he had a temper and sharp tongue. He was also boastful and often switched between modes.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b83o1AIcNHs

Don't forget that he was the kid who infuriated the girls in Celadon City by insulting their perfume.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Sep 2025 21:49:26 No.58258003 Report

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>>58257744
Don't reply to him

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 00:00:04 No.58258586 Report

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>>58238482
Based on the small size of the house, Ash's father probably has low income but overworked type of job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 05:13:17 No.58259588 Report

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>>58257838
>Fuck Liko
She's got no tits and no ass, so why?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 05:24:02 No.58259624 Report

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>>58227691
When will she return to the anime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 05:44:02 No.58259686 Report

Quoted By: >>58260241

>>58257849
He's Japanese. Japan is a polite culture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 10:49:26 No.58260241 Report

Quoted By:

>>58259686
We already know how polite they were when they tried to build an empire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 15:07:20 No.58260785 Report

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>>58254988
Winrar

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Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 15:17:04 No.58260810 Report

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New thread:

/ptsd/ #7: PocketMonsters.net memorial edition

>>58260792

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Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 16:28:07 No.58260999 Report

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>>58254988
>puts up workhorse numbers in Hoenn and Kalos
>coasted and got lazy in Alola

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