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Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:32:09 No.58262485 View View Reply Original Report

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>Strong Jaw
Why bother wasting resources creating a mega thats objectively weaker than the base form?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:34:38 No.58262500 Report

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>>58262485
there's already a thread up about this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:34:48 No.58262504 Report

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thank you for your continued support of the pokémon™ fanchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:34:48 No.58262505 Report

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>>58262485
because you'll buy it anyway, buddyboy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:36:07 No.58262512 Report

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you know the starters are probably gonna get new signature moves, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:38:18 No.58262521 Report

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>>58262485
>Why bother wasting resources creating a mega that's objectively weaker than the base form?
I wonder the same thing when people say that they want Flygon's typing to be changed to bug/dragon (or that it should be)-

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:44:47 No.58262546 Report

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>>58262512
this just sounds like pure cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:47:56 No.58262563 Report

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>>58262485
To more easily cut them from gen 10

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:51:18 No.58262575 Report

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>>58262485
Is that leak even real or just a fake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:52:01 No.58262580 Report

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>>58262546
he's completely right though, every starter since gen 6 has had a signature move including the hisui forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:53:07 No.58262588 Report

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>>58262485
Because they'll give him Fisheous Rend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:53:14 No.58262590 Report

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>>58262575
it's probably fake, no evidence it's real. dancer starmie makes me wish it was, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:56:23 No.58262604 Report

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>>58262580
you patternfags never learn, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 22:59:51 No.58262620 Report

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>pattern not real because...b...because i said so ok!!
no (you) for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 23:02:07 No.58262632 Report

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>more coping

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 23:08:49 No.58262657 Report

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>>58262485
We don't know how high its attack is, nor do we know if it's getting any new biting moves. Also it could very easily have enough bulk or speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 23:09:51 No.58262661 Report

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>>58262657
165 base attack is what it has supposedly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 23:48:44 No.58262793 Report

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>>58262485
>Why bother wasting resources creating a mega thats objectively weaker than the base form?
You don’t know its stats, typing, and if it has any additional moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Sep 2025 23:58:29 No.58262824 Report

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>>58262546
I don't need to cope, I'm choosing Chikorita. But you know it to be true

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 00:03:44 No.58262839 Report

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>>58262485
GF really need to make more bit moves worth a damn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 00:05:17 No.58262843 Report

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>>58262793
we've known it's water/dragon for literally months now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 00:58:20 No.58263001 Report

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>>58262485
>Strong Jew

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 06:51:13 No.58263974 Report

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>>58262485
Just give it Fishious Rend. EZPZ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 07:08:48 No.58264003 Report

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>>58263974
>gill bite

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 07:37:39 No.58264028 Report

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>>58264003
Moves for shillmons don’t have to make since

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 07:42:47 No.58264033 Report

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>>58262546
Game Freak has been handing out signature movea like candy since PLA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 10:57:28 No.58264286 Report

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>>58264033
Try from the beginning. Every Pokemon has a unique move on its debut back in the day. Most still do now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 15:14:08 No.58264899 Report

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>>58262485
S-surely it can’t be that ba-

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 15:27:03 No.58264925 Report

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Feraligatr is a shitmon that doesn't even take advantage of Sheer Force that well. It could have an average ability and still be good simply because of the stat boost and how much better Water/Dragon is offensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 15:31:00 No.58264933 Report

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>>58264925
Even with the stat boost, sheer force + life orb gatr always hit harder than mega gatr thanks to no dragon or water bitting moves
strong jaw is that much of a dead weight ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 15:51:06 No.58264993 Report

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>huge power
Are you happy now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 15:53:56 No.58265002 Report

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>>58264993
>actually stronger than the base form instead of a downgrade in every single ways like the real thing
It’s a good start

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 15:55:36 No.58265007 Report

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>>58264933
You know Sheer Force doesn't affect every move right? It doesn't get a dragon move that takes advantage of it either, which means its Water STAB is the only notable move that would be doing more damage than the mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 16:07:46 No.58265037 Report

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reminds me of when mega gyara needed to rely on bite
but with recent games it seems like the staff are infested with compfags who love minmaxing everything so it'll definitely get something to abuse it with

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 19:20:51 No.58265594 Report

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>>58265007
>+2 252 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Liquidation vs. +1 252 HP / 252 Def Zamazenta: 195-230 (50.2 - 59.2%) -- 76.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

>+2 252+ Atk Mega Feraligatr Dragon Claw vs. +1 252 HP / 252 Def Zamazenta: 165-195 (42.5 - 50.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

If you don't run Outrage(horrible move) its Dragon STAB is still outdamaged by Sheer Force Liquidation, they nerfed our boi

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 19:26:11 No.58265619 Report

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>>58262620
They literally just broke a very consistent pattern recently
>>58265007
They gave it dragon pulse and breaking swipe in bdsp - sv
It can get dragon rush very easily.
Doesn’t change the fact that its coverage was just reduced to ice fang and crunch when it used to be able to run moves like rock slide and ice punch. Strong jaw ice fang is not even a buff to sheer force + life orb ice punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Sep 2025 19:29:39 No.58265631 Report

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>>58265007
It affects every single one of his coverage moves and stab with the single exception of earthquake.
Strong jaw is only buffing crunch because ice fang and ice punch are similar in damage thanks to the extra 10bp on the former.
Every other fang move except poison fang will hit weaker than liquidation or his ground/rock coverage on top of being worse coverage overall.
Its like trying to use tyrantrum with strong jaw.
It has everything it needs to be a strong sweeper, the only thing it lacks is an actual ability, at least a defensive one so he can go hard with outrages after you eliminate the fairy threat.

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