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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 16:22:32 No.58368095 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>58368126 >>58368137 >>58368235 >>58369097 >>58370352

Farewell, sweet prince...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 16:33:42 No.58368126 Report

Quoted By: >>58368681 >>58368785 >>58368860 >>58369089

>>58368095
Take it or leave it.

Trade evolutions are a good thing. Players just dont know what they want, or whats good for a game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 16:37:03 No.58368137 Report

Quoted By: >>58368159 >>58368450 >>58368785

>>58368095
Everyone crying about this item not being available are retards. Why do you assume this game is going to be exactly like Legends: Arceus??? Just because it has Legends in the game name? Arceus did not have PvP, but this game does. The games are not the same. You're expected to interact with others and not play the entire game solo.
Also, they could have removed the evolution requirement entirely, letting you evolve at a fixed level instead. We won't know until people actually have the game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 16:37:09 No.58368138 Report

Quoted By: >>58368166 >>58368719 >>58368976

>tfw you thought Legends was going to be a 1P series...
goddammit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 16:40:27 No.58368159 Report

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>>58368137
> Also, they could have removed the evolution requirement entirely, letting you evolve at a fixed level instead.
Maximum copium

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 16:41:31 No.58368166 Report

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>>58368138
Pokemon has never been exclusively singleplayer. Even Legends Arceus had multiplayer components.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 16:43:26 No.58368173 Report

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sorry goy but we need you to buy the online subscription

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 16:46:40 No.58368190 Report

Quoted By: >>58368198

>no friends
>can't transfer mons from PLA to previous gens
I'm not buying a second copy, fuck you GOYfreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 16:49:03 No.58368198 Report

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>>58368190
Just get some friends, nerd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 16:56:05 No.58368235 Report

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>>58368095
You WILL subscribe to Nintendo online, paypig

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:13:03 No.58368325 Report

Quoted By: >>58368599 >>58368736

Proof it's gone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:23:53 No.58368384 Report

Quoted By: >>58368413 >>58368479

Why is there seething? Pokemon has had trade evolutions since the very first games. This isn't anything new in the slightest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:29:42 No.58368413 Report

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>>58368384
Because #Gamers are notorious at setting false expectations for themselves.

They, arbitrarily assumed that because the previous Legends game had a Link Cable, that it must mean ALL Legends games will have Link Cables, despite there being little consistency between the 2 sole entries thus far.
Additionally, despite being a series that is explicitly designed with social interaction in mind, there are an alarming number of friendless players. Friendlessness also has a high correlation with neet-ness and thus jobless-ness, so the thought of having to shell out a couple more burger bux for online means they might have to walk upstairs and beg their mom for her credit card again, which is an unacceptable degree of exercise when youre trying to maintain peak morbid obesity.

Reality is, everyone already has an online subscription, they just like bitching about meaningless principles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:35:20 No.58368450 Report

Quoted By: >>58368484

>>58368137
>Just because it has Legends in the game name?
How is this unreasonable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:38:43 No.58368479 Report

Quoted By: >>58368504

>>58368384
The Switch is technically a handheld but it's not as portable/convenient as the Gameboy was
It's also just annoying when the *only* way to get these Pokemon was needing multiple copies, especially when the games get older and the general public is less sociable. HOWEVER I'm sure there's going to be a way to catch these guys too, like how Gengar, Machamp and others were obtainable in the wild in PLA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:39:12 No.58368484 Report

Quoted By: >>58368514 >>58368759

>>58368450
Because there is no correlation beyond titles?

PLA was explicitly about completing the Pokedex. All other games Pokedex completion is treated as a side goal, rarely with any degree of necessity. PLZA is the same as traditional Pokemon games in this regard, so players do not NEED to complete the Pokedex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:41:33 No.58368504 Report

Quoted By: >>58368524

>>58368479
It's not the only way to get these Pokemon. When Home support gets added you can move them in to ZA from Home. You've had decades to get these, there's really no excuse for not owning a Gengar by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:43:25 No.58368514 Report

Quoted By: >>58368550

>>58368484
Being a single title spinoff instead of two separate games in a new series, I think it's fair to expect similar features that are not as focused on the multiplayer aspect
Trade evolutions are fun in concept but poorly executed, IMO. Maybe if there was a set of NPCs who could trade you them so you could complete the dex singleplayer, but if you want a certain nature or your own OT you'd have to trade with a friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:44:36 No.58368524 Report

Quoted By: >>58368548

>>58368504
I have a full living dex, I just don't like the idea of 100% completion being locked externally
You should be able to complete the regional dex in a single copy of a game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:47:50 No.58368548 Report

Quoted By: >>58368577

>>58368524
>You should be able to complete the regional dex in a single copy of a game
The only game where this has ever been the case is Legends Arceus, which had no multiplayer. Every other Pokemon game you can't complete the regional dex without trading. And since we know multiplayer is in ZA, why would anyone assume the game wouldn't have trading like usual?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:48:21 No.58368550 Report

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>>58368514
Not having separated versions is only a small part of the overarching structure.
Things like restricted Pokemon selections (like 1 of 3 starters), trade evolutions, breeding, and PvP all serve to underline the communal nature of Pokemon games.

You can choose to play them exclusively single player, but in doing so you're forgoing a core element of the game's design. Even PLA, by far the most single player centric title, still had trading and the implementation of the Satchel system to encourage connection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:50:58 No.58368577 Report

Quoted By: >>58368591

>>58368548
Legends Arceus was good for that, it's good future-proofing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:52:15 No.58368591 Report

Quoted By: >>58368660 >>58368839

>>58368577
It's an oddity and an exception in a franchise where social interaction is the norm. Don't be a patternfag and assume that everything will remain consistently predictable, Gamefreak can and will do anything they want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:53:46 No.58368599 Report

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>>58368325
Multiplayer is in ZA so its isnt needed anymore (PLA was single player only which is why it existed since you couldnt trade)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 17:59:18 No.58368652 Report

Quoted By: >>58368684

They've been increasingly making trade evo Pokémon available so I don't see why they'd change that here, will be to wait and see in case the data mine missed something. They should at least make 6 of the things available so you can make a team, if not necessarily complete the Dex. Or retcon all trade evos from prior generations and just use stuff from the current gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:00:25 No.58368660 Report

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>>58368591
I know, it's nice to have something that encourages social interaction
I guess I just want *a* way to 100% the dex in any game, even if it's inconvenient

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:02:36 No.58368681 Report

Quoted By: >>58368697

>>58368126
>Players just dont know what they want, or whats good for a game.
Well everyone unanimously liked it and they worked well in Arceus, so that's bullshit lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:03:18 No.58368684 Report

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>>58368652
Considering Rogue Mega Evos are a thing, and nearly every single Trade Evo mon currently in the game has a Mega, it stands to reason they may be obtainable that way. In fact, I think it's JUST Machamp lacking one if memory serves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:05:31 No.58368697 Report

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>>58368681
They THINK they did. But if we moved into an era with literally 0 need for any form of inter-game communication, we'd just as soon be flooded with "who misses the KINO GOLDEN AGE DAYS where Pokemon was like a big social phenomena???"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:08:21 No.58368719 Report

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>>58368138
PLA was clearly made with the singleplayer experience in mind, and I guess they thought that was a mistake with how much they double downed on the multiplayer aspects for ZA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:10:46 No.58368736 Report

Quoted By: >>58370342

>>58368325
day 1 patch showed all the items and the internal name for the linking cord from PLA isn't in there.
Is there a chance they changed it's name or introduced some other method instead? I guess, but it isn't likely.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:14:17 No.58368759 Report

Quoted By: >>58368779 >>58368797 >>58368856 >>58369109

>>58368484
>All other games Pokedex completion is treated as a side goal
Imagine being this brown and retarded to say that a series that started with the tagline "Gotta Catch Em All!" is actually not about catching them all, that the dex is just some side thing and you shouldn't expect Gamefreak to keep qol that makes it easier.
What do you think the main goal of Pokemon is then? Battling online?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:16:28 No.58368779 Report

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>>58368759
Tell me anon, how many games have you had to complete the Pokedex to see the credits again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:17:12 No.58368785 Report

Quoted By: >>58368808

>>58368126
>>58368137
samefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:18:18 No.58368797 Report

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>>58368759
Pretty sure the main goal is completing the Pokémon league challenge

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:19:31 No.58368808 Report

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>>58368785
Swing and a miss

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:22:20 No.58368839 Report

Quoted By: >>58368854

>>58368591
The feature was good and i liked it, now its gone and thats shit, there's no patternfagging, it's just wanting improvements to stay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:24:06 No.58368854 Report

Quoted By: >>58368886

>>58368839
>The feature was good and i liked it
Because you are antisocial. The franchise is not made for antisocial people like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:24:09 No.58368856 Report

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>>58368759
>that a series that started with the tagline "Gotta Catch Em All!"
>Implying Gamefreak designed their games around arbitrary American slogans made after-the-fact

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:24:20 No.58368860 Report

Quoted By: >>58368893 >>58369056

>>58368126
If you have a shiny Haunter and you want to evolve it into a Gengar then you're just screwed man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:27:06 No.58368886 Report

Quoted By: >>58368916 >>58368970

>>58368854
Why are you a D1 Gamefreak glazer saying people shouldnt have expectations or need more friends because they wanted a qol feature to return?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:27:52 No.58368893 Report

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>>58368860
For that to be true, you need to
1. Have a Shiny Haunter
2. Not have any friends who play Pokemon
3. Not have any means of travel to where others may be
4. Not be willing to purchase an online subscription

Its an unlikely set of circumstances, and even then, Haunter is perfectly useable on its own. The original trade evos were made to have significantly better stats than typical middle stage evos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:30:16 No.58368916 Report

Quoted By: >>58370789

>>58368886
Because you're expecting the franchise to genre shift in a completely different direction entirely. That's not a 'quality of life' feature, that's avoidant behavior entirely. Pokemon is about social interaction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:34:15 No.58368952 Report

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Just hop on /vp/ and touch trade with your bros. I promise I won't steal your Kadabra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:36:36 No.58368970 Report

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>>58368886
Because a bootlicker is simply that. Any decision Gamefreak makes, whether it be good or bad, he'll happily swallow whole while defending his masters from criticism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:37:19 No.58368976 Report

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>>58368138
Sadly trading is a literal core mechanic of the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:46:24 No.58369056 Report

Quoted By: >>58369073

>>58368860
But shiny Gengar sucks dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:48:57 No.58369073 Report

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>>58369056
Mega Shiny Gengar isn't though and megas return in this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:51:30 No.58369089 Report

Quoted By: >>58369112

>>58368126
Is that why they keep giving you options to get trade evolutions without multiplayer intervention, then? All the trade evos of SWSH and SV could be found either dicking around in the wild as fixed overworld findings or in raids.
Sounds more like to be they consider them a mistake at this point, but they're too stubborn to retcon the evolution methods because that'd require bloating the item count with yet another tard ass hyper-specific evolution item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:52:37 No.58369097 Report

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>>58368095
>genderswapped AGP OC characters all extinct
>Shitsui buried in the rubble and replaced by sinnoh
>Strong/Agile slop cutted
>Le alpha pokemon cutted
>Linking poorfag cord cutted
Lmao, why was plass so forgettable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:53:44 No.58369109 Report

Quoted By: >>58369232

>>58368759
The Pokemon Franchise hasn't used "Gotta Catch 'Em All!" in ages, outside of nostalgia pandering as it relates to ONLY the OG151.
The true slogan Pokemon subscribes to is ポケモンゲットだぜー!, which is simply "get Pokemon." Not ALL the Pokemon, just whatever amount you care to get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:54:26 No.58369112 Report

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>>58369089
>Is that why they keep giving you options to get trade evolutions without multiplayer intervention, then?

Sure, because there's still a practical function and need outside of specifically acquiring them via raids. Finding a shiny of a pre-evo is way, WAY easier for nearly all of them, for example.

Also even if they completely did away with it, it wouldn't change my "take-it-or-leave-it" stance, because it's exactly that, neutral and not against the Link Cable existing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 18:55:54 No.58369118 Report

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>ITT Friendless

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 19:15:50 No.58369232 Report

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>>58369109
>"get Pokemon."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 23:21:51 No.58370342 Report

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>>58368736
Fuck...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Oct 2025 23:23:23 No.58370352 Report

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>>58368095
it kinda looks like a pretzel
I am hungry...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2025 01:22:29 No.58370789 Report

Quoted By: >>58371010

>>58368916
Dude fuck off HOLY SHIT just fuck off you annoying piece of shit

That said, yeah pretty lame this is gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Oct 2025 02:23:51 No.58371010 Report

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>>58370789
>Dude fuck off HOLY SHIT just fuck off you annoying piece of shit
You will trade with other people to get the trade evolutions you want. Just like you did in RBY, GSC, RSE, FRLG, DPPt, HGSS, BW, BW2, XY, ORAS, SM, USUM, and SwSh.

Trading is a core aspect of the franchise. This isn't negotiable, and if you hate it that much I'd advise you to fucking leave and never come back.

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