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Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:01:06 No.58396791 View View Reply Original Report

Game budgets.
>SV DLC: 500mil JPY / 3mil USD
>Legends Z-A: 2bil JPY / 13mil USD
>Gen 10: 3bil JPY / 20mil USD
Honestly, the budget is higher than I'd expect. These games feel so low effort. Maybe it all gets pissed away on marketing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:03:57 No.58396820 Report

Quoted By: >>58396834 >>58396919 >>58397039 >>58398078 >>58398358 >>58404146

What was SV's base game budget?
Keep in mind that GTA6's development and marketing will end up costing north of $1,000,000,000.
There's no reason for GF to be stingy given their franchise grosses more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:05:02 No.58396834 Report

Quoted By: >>58397556

>>58396820
The higher the budget, the more you have to sell to make a profit. That's why the AAA industry is such a shitshow right now, budgets are way too fucking big. It leads to companies being risk-averse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:05:11 No.58396836 Report

Quoted By: >>58396889

>>58396791
Why the fuck are Centro posts suddenly getting spammed? Make the shilling less obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:06:28 No.58396849 Report

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>>58396791
ZA has a shoestring budget with its ONE CITY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:10:14 No.58396889 Report

Quoted By: >>58397027

>>58396836
Centro is based af

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:10:19 No.58396890 Report

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>>58396791
If ZA is the best they could do with 13mil I dont see how the extra 7mil would make much difference. Another gen of shovelware garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:12:40 No.58396919 Report

Quoted By: >>58396939 >>58397556 >>58397891

>>58396820
gta6 is never going to make that back though
I'd rather pokemons budget be on the smaller size then enter the hundreds of million dollar death pits that are killing the rest of the industry

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Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:13:10 No.58396924 Report

Quoted By: >>58396933 >>58396943 >>58397642 >>58397667 >>58397679 >>58406078

What's his salary?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:13:51 No.58396933 Report

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>>58396924
Like Gen 10: Infinity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:14:15 No.58396939 Report

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>>58396919
pokemon games should have the budget of zelda games (100 million)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:14:38 No.58396943 Report

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>>58396924
They pay him in bugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:15:29 No.58396950 Report

Quoted By: >>58396959

>>58396791
>Maybe it all gets pissed away on marketing
The nigger literally said "DEVELOPMENT budgets" you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:16:45 No.58396959 Report

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>>58396950
Game Fuck shills are super assmad today it seems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:19:40 No.58396983 Report

Quoted By: >>58397134

>>58396791
There are indie games made by smaller developers with smaller budgets that are far more ambitious both graphically and in gameplay.
Makes you wonder just how badly mismanaged those budgets are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:24:07 No.58397027 Report

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>>58396889
Centro is a gay faggot with his limp dick maricon boyfriends sonicfox, sacredalmighty, adrive, ruffledrowlit, poketips mike, mysticumbreon, hdvee and purplecliffe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:25:05 No.58397037 Report

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>>58396791
These faggots probably use most of this money to go on vacation kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:25:09 No.58397039 Report

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>>58396820
Japs are the Jews of Asia

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 17:33:32 No.58397134 Report

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>>58396983
As you scale a company, costs and productivity don't linearly grow with it. There are diminishing returns in the management and bureaucracy of a bigger organization.
The reason why indie games can be so good is because there are fewer people pulling the levers. Hence if their artistic vision is good then it'll definitely show in the game.
Whereas in a big company then every decision has to go through the chain of command, and the choices made are more often than not financially motivated - as in "what will sell?" or "what is more cost-effective?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:08:26 No.58397556 Report

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>>58396834
I agree that budgets are far too large, but GF's Pokemon budgets are far too small.
>>58396919
>GTA6 will never make that back
Doubt, it won't be as profitable as GTA5 was by any stretch. Some that is the nature of the economy, some of that is sheer expense, but it will definitely make a handsome profit. GTAV grossed $800m its release day and it sold 215m copies to stores to date.
Take Two must sell 30m copies to break even and since this is a live service game in the form of GTA Online they'll make a killing off of the paypigs there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:10:00 No.58397579 Report

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i still want to know how much of sv's budget went into that corny ending credits collab song and those idiotic iono trailers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:12:10 No.58397604 Report

Quoted By: >>58397625

Christ alive, where do those profits go?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:14:22 No.58397625 Report

Quoted By: >>58397631

>>58397604
merch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:14:59 No.58397631 Report

Quoted By: >>58397726

>>58397625
THEY GET EVEN MORE FROM MERCH

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:15:51 No.58397642 Report

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>>58396924
You can just tell this guy doesn't wipe his butt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:16:47 No.58397654 Report

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>>58396791
These budgets are honestly egregious overpays compared to the final products.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:17:24 No.58397664 Report

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>>58396791
they spend it to sue palworl

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:17:48 No.58397667 Report

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>>58396924
Joe Merrick's boypussy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:18:29 No.58397679 Report

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>>58396924
How did they let a major face of the company dress so fucking evil

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:18:37 No.58397682 Report

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>>58396791
So ZA was made on a budget of about 4 Bugattis. Most Indian thing I’ve typed out all year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:22:28 No.58397726 Report

Quoted By: >>58397796 >>58397813

>>58397631
Those flashy charts showing revenue don't tell the full story about Pokemon's profit. That massive merch revenue is split between retailers, licensees, Nintendo, and Creatures. That's why they cut out partners like Media Factory and Wizards.

They make a lot from merch, but it's not pure profit. The games have better margins than plushies, they just sell far fewer units of games than merch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:27:35 No.58397796 Report

Quoted By: >>58397922

>>58397726
Wizards was just retarded and took for granted Pokemon Cards. They concerned themselves entirely with other franchises.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:28:24 No.58397805 Report

Quoted By: >>58398133

>>58396791
is winds/waves the gen 10 mainline? when is release date?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:29:34 No.58397813 Report

Quoted By: >>58397848 >>58397965 >>58397999 >>58399326

>>58397726
Merch > TCG > games

The games are an irrelevance these das and the merch is is for children. Real fans invest in the TCG

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:31:03 No.58397833 Report

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>>58396791
For reference: BOTW's budget was around $100 Million USD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:32:01 No.58397848 Report

Quoted By: >>58397885

>>58397813
>The games are an irrelevance these das
They sell millions with every entry

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:34:37 No.58397885 Report

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>>58397848
>They sell millions with every entry
They sell billions of cards to more people and make more money from cards

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:35:09 No.58397891 Report

Quoted By: >>58397958

>>58396919
>gta6 is never going to make that back though
With the base game, that is true, even if they sell it for the rumored 100 bucks
But remember that GTA V has made ~10 Billion and 90% of that money has come from GTA online microtransactions. They're going all in for GTA 6 to provide big bux with online MTX, the single player campaign is just a smokescreen, a bait, to catch the occasional whale

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:37:17 No.58397922 Report

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>>58397796
Wizards handled distribution and marketing better than TPC. They didn't lose Pokemon because they fumbled, or because they printed too many Harry Potter cards, they lost it because TPC was designed to consolidate brand mgmt and bring as much in-house as possible. Prior to TPC, they also relied a lot on NoA as a middle man.

Hasbro/Wizards was by far the strongest partner Pokemon had in those early years. Their ability to strongarm retailers helped get Pokemon onto more shelves in more stores. Losing Wizards did a lot of damage to Pokemon's visibility, at a time when the brand was already struggling for relevance. The only time I ever saw early TPC sets advertised was Nintendo Power, but anyone reading NP was already plugged in and aware of the Advanced games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:39:22 No.58397958 Report

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>>58397891
Does anyone know exactly what the profit margin is on video games for stores? Is it 33%?
The other challenge for this calculation was that most copies of GTAV were not sold at full price. If I said they averaged $15 profit on each copy sold would that number be acceptable?
If so GTAV has made $4B to date just on sales of the game itself. The rest would money made from GTAO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:40:04 No.58397965 Report

Quoted By: >>58398008

>>58397813
>Real fans
>>>investment

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:41:23 No.58397991 Report

Quoted By: >>58398002 >>58398011

>>58396791
Jesus fuck 3 million is literally nothing for a game. They sold this fucking game over 20 million times. Thats 20000000 x 60 = 1.2 BILLIION. The that's 400x the dev costs. What the actual FUCK?? HOW ARE THEY NOT INVESTING MORE MONEY INTO THE STUDIO, WHERE THE FUCK IS IT ALL GOING??

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:42:14 No.58397999 Report

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>>58397813
The games and anime provide the framework for everything else. Even though most casuals don't watch every episode or play for hundreds of hours, they still engage with the anime and games and use them as a touchstone.

If a new batch of Pokemon debuted on backpacks and cards, with no supporting game or anime, they would bomb. Pokemon relies heavily on Nintendo's model of the "talent agency", their focus is on elevating characters and IP as if they were talent, and leveraging that into merch sales. Pokemon's talent is given validity and relevance because of the anime and games, not the other way around.

It's like how musicians make their money from concert tickets and merchandise. Not from streams, or radio play, or CD sales. But those concerts and merch are branded around the latest CD. Even if few people buy the CD, that's still the touchstone. That's the canon that the t-shirts and sunglasses are spun out from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:42:19 No.58398002 Report

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>>58397991
That was for the DLC for clarification, that's still very little.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:42:37 No.58398008 Report

Quoted By: >>58398081

>>58397965
>real fans aren't the ones who spend more on the franchise
VGbabbies btfo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:42:55 No.58398011 Report

Quoted By: >>58398086

>>58397991
Wait that's only for the DLC, I'm fucking retarded. Still, most people bought the DLC from what I've seen, so still insane profits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:46:26 No.58398078 Report

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>>58396820
they don't need to put any effort because they know pokespicjeet cattle will buy and defend the slop anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:46:35 No.58398081 Report

Quoted By: >>58398098

>>58398008
>real fans aren't the ones that interact and engage with the medium rather than viewing it as an avenue for making money

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:46:57 No.58398086 Report

Quoted By: >>58398218 >>58398285

>>58398011
Shareholders LOVE when you spend as little money as possible while making as much money as possible.

There's no need to spend more than absolutely necessary, because even the suits know it: You WILL buy it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:47:32 No.58398098 Report

Quoted By: >>58398121

>>58398081
Pokemon would die if people didn't invest in the TCG. VGbabbies are one sale and done. TCGchads keep supporting it through the years

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:49:14 No.58398121 Report

Quoted By: >>58398166

>>58398098
Yes, we understand you're paypiggies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:50:19 No.58398133 Report

Quoted By: >>58399918

>>58397805
Next fall, THE SAME TIME THEY ALWAYS RELEASE THEIR GAMES.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:52:03 No.58398166 Report

Quoted By: >>58398278

>>58398121
We keep the franchise alive so you kids can enjoy your meaningless games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:55:17 No.58398218 Report

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>>58398086
Even without that fiduciary responsibility, it's hard to justify doubling or tripling your budget, when the next project is already underway, and you know giving it a 2x or 3x budget won't give you proportional returns. Why spend another 30 or 60 m USD, just to move a few millions more units. And that's a generous estimate, that assumes there are millions of potential customers who continually pass on Pokemon games. People passed on BW and SM because they moved on from the DS and 3DS. Those systems were collecting dust. Late life Switch has more active users buying and playing software than late DS or 3DS did, which is why SV outsold SwSh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:58:39 No.58398278 Report

Quoted By: >>58398299

>>58398166
You wouldn't have your preschool playground cardboard game without the video games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 18:58:58 No.58398285 Report

Quoted By: >>58398395 >>58404192

>>58398086
Because higher quality ensures more customer loyalty. So many people dropped the franchise because the games were too shit. Everyone is ridiculing the shitty graphics. You can only take so much negative publicity until your franchise loses popularity because everyone sees only negative opinions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:00:13 No.58398299 Report

Quoted By: >>58398483

>>58398278
This is true for the 90s, but this is now. Nobody cares about the games. More people care about the cards and the value they represent

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:03:29 No.58398344 Report

Quoted By: >>58398431

>>58396791
10 mil of that budget goes into advertising

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:04:13 No.58398358 Report

Quoted By: >>58399276

>>58396820
anon even with the issues I have with gamefreak no game should be fucking 1 billion dollars to make

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:05:59 No.58398395 Report

Quoted By: >>58398671

>>58398285
Pokemon is a bit unique in that retarded parents will buy it for their kids because they know it's a kids game and they might have liked it as kids. Pokemon is carried solely by the brand name, it doesn't matter how terrible the games are, they'll still buy it for their kid. Even if the games got universal 1/10's across the board they'd still sell because at least half of the people buying it don't engage with review sites.

It sucks that kids have to be subjected to such low quality games though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:08:28 No.58398431 Report

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>>58398344
what part of "development budget" did you not understand
marketing budget is completely separate and probably 4x to 5x to development cost with any big release from call of duty to pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:11:48 No.58398483 Report

Quoted By: >>58398520

>>58398299
Their value is drawn from the games and anime.

The same way people get hyped for Smash Bros reveals, even if they never played Tekken or Kingdom Hearts or Banjo-Kazooie. They know those characters are valuable and important because their games are valuable and important.

Pokemon cards are a proxy. They're a fiat currency. Charizard is valuable because the anime gave him a spotlight and Red version put him on the cover.

If Gen 10 only released as a TCG set, it would fail. People have no association or emotional attachment to them. TCG value isn't just based on rarity, otherwise every SR would be worth the same. It's not based on their viability in the current TCG format. It's derived from the emotions people feel because of the anime and games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:14:27 No.58398520 Report

Quoted By: >>58398539 >>58398630

>>58398483
Nope, nobody cares about the games and anime any more.

>If Gen 10 only released as a TCG set, it would fail.
Nobody cares about newgen Pokemon. Sets live and die by their appeal to adults with nostalgia of the old days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:15:41 No.58398539 Report

Quoted By: >>58398577

>>58398520
Wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:17:30 No.58398577 Report

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>>58398539
Butthurt vgbabby

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:20:48 No.58398630 Report

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>>58398520
Nostalgia sells because they market it. They market new forms of Charizard, Pikachu, Mewtwo, Gengar. The games and anime are the marketing platforms for the merch.

You confuse the forest for the trees. The TCG is the moneymaker, but it's not the kingmaker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 19:23:09 No.58398671 Report

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>>58398395
Let's not lie either and say the alternatives are much higher quality. All games are overbudgeted and overproduced garbage right now and the only ones that escape it are indie games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:04:51 No.58399276 Report

Quoted By: >>58399448

>>58398358
I was using literally the most extreme example.
Most AAA games are in that $200-500m bracket. This would have been an insane budget 15 years ago, but it's more common now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:08:58 No.58399326 Report

Quoted By:

>>58397813
KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:09:57 No.58399338 Report

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>>58396791
Low numbers, but it's kinda what you'd expect from a cashgrab franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:18:07 No.58399448 Report

Quoted By: >>58399942 >>58408852

>>58399276
Pokemon is a quad A franchise with AA games.

They have the full backing of Nintendo, they have a whole company dedicated to branding, they have multiple dedicated support studios, but Game Freak still operates and views itself as an indie studio. In terms of planning and development, GF still has final say, and it's up to their partners to implement those ideas, and clean up the mess if GF decides to delay the game.

It's kind of cool, just given their history and formation. But as a fan of Pokemon, it's frustrating to see this massive brand held back because GF operates without the same checks and balances you'd expect from a flagship Nintendo franchise. Nintendo has got to hate this, but Pokemon is too big to lose, so they're at the mercy of GF's decision making.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:43:00 No.58399766 Report

Quoted By: >>58399830

What's the chance Beast of Reincarnation is actually a glorified test demo for an engine that will be used in gen 11 or the "multi-japan region" 2028 game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:47:09 No.58399802 Report

Quoted By: >>58399807 >>58399862

>>58396791
What do you mean higher than expected???
Fucking PALWORLD had a 60 million budget.
These are shoestring as fuck it's no wonder the end results are so half assed and rushed out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:47:36 No.58399807 Report

Quoted By: >>58399881

>>58399802
Palworld is a money laundering scheme

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:49:48 No.58399830 Report

Quoted By: >>58399845

>>58399766
No, Beast of Reincarnation uses Unreal engine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:50:54 No.58399845 Report

Quoted By: >>58399889

>>58399830
Pokemon Engine X is also based on Unreal Engine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:52:13 No.58399862 Report

Quoted By: >>58400193

>>58399802
>Fucking PALWORLD had a 60 million budget.
and will never be a finished game.
another early access scam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:54:04 No.58399881 Report

Quoted By: >>58399910

>>58399807
>money comes from Japan's abhorrent obsession of bitcoin
>laundering
What? also don't they actually put that money to good use and use it on their actual game to make it better though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:54:57 No.58399889 Report

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>>58399845
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:55:47 No.58399910 Report

Quoted By: >>58399951 >>58399965

>>58399881
>What? also don't they actually put that money to good use and use it on their actual game to make it better though?

All of Palworlds budget was spent on viral advertising. It's literally asset store nonsense built ontop of the skeleton of their previous game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:56:27 No.58399918 Report

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>>58398133
It's called autumn though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:57:16 No.58399924 Report

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>>58396791
They should lower the budget even further. The fans will eat it up anything anyway so might as well squeeze them in the most optimal way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:57:55 No.58399929 Report

Quoted By: >>58399954

What was Expedition 33's budget?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:59:45 No.58399941 Report

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>>58396791
10 million isn't much for the budget of your average western game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 20:59:53 No.58399942 Report

Quoted By: >>58400029 >>58408852

>>58399448
>Nintendo has got to hate this
kek no, they fucking love it. they have an infinite free money hack and they have to do absolutely nothing to maintain it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:00:46 No.58399951 Report

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>>58399910
And the concept isn't even original.
It's just ARK with bootleg Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:00:59 No.58399954 Report

Quoted By: >>58400067

>>58399929
>What was Expedition 33's budget?

€400m

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:01:47 No.58399965 Report

Quoted By: >>58400240

>>58399910
>buzzwords on buzzwords
What advertisement besides their twitter posts?

also isn't ZA built off the skeletons of the previous legend's games so i don't see how this is a problem also its kind of funny that people like you say asset store bought when nobody actually post images of actual proof of them using exact models from an asset store

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:04:55 No.58400004 Report

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>>58396791
>2/3 billions
>games still look like late PS2 games
how?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:07:04 No.58400022 Report

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they make billions of dollars yearly and still can’t please people with good games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:07:41 No.58400029 Report

Quoted By: >>58403075 >>58404221

>>58399942
Nintendo cares more about owning and controlling IP than game sales. That's why they prop up Metroid.

Pokemon isn't the only IP they don't fully control. Kirby, Punch Out, Star Tropics, Xenoblade all have split ownership too. But Pokemon is the biggest Nintendo IP they don't fully own and exploit. They're at the whims of a ramshackle faux indie studio. Game Freak could make the most unhinged, unmarketable roster for Gen 10, and Nintendo would be stuck having to market turdmon and shitpoke as flagship characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:11:12 No.58400067 Report

Quoted By: >>58400118

>>58399954
What? It's estimated around $30m, or €25m. That's about 4.5 billion yen.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:15:50 No.58400118 Report

Quoted By: >>58400655 >>58406300

>>58400067
>A fucking indie game apparently had more budget to blow than the next game in the biggest franchise on earth

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:20:56 No.58400193 Report

Quoted By: >>58400240

>>58399862
>Game will be finished this year with last huge update
>Creators are open and do their bestbest

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Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:23:32 No.58400240 Report

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>>58399965
>>58400193
Come now, don't let reality get in the way of /vp/tard delusions

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 21:57:15 No.58400655 Report

Quoted By: >>58400870

>>58400118
To be fair, that budget is fucking tiny by modern standards. Short indie films have more budget than thhat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 22:13:33 No.58400870 Report

Quoted By: >>58403510

>>58400655
movie industry is literally all money laundering to cover up for drug and/or child and general human trafficking or some shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Oct 2025 23:14:55 No.58401594 Report

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>>58396791
Unreal to think that every mainline pokemon game so far has cost less than 100 million to make combined.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 01:16:54 No.58403033 Report

Quoted By: >>58403493

>>58396791
>they aren't even cheaping out to save costs
then why is everything so shit, I swear the more we learn about how they make games the less sense it makes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 01:19:42 No.58403075 Report

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>>58400029
Yes except Pokemon sells regardless and they know that. They were literally rescued by the franchise and as such owe a great debt to it. It reinvigorated the Game Boy and gave the company a huge cash inflow in a period where their home console was being put under immense pressure by the Playstation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 01:21:18 No.58403088 Report

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>>58396791
God, imagine a world where Pokemon got the respect it deserves. Massive 10/10 games, setting the casual RPG standard. TPC and gamefreak should burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 02:09:18 No.58403477 Report

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>>58396791
Where is all that money going? It sure isn't going toward any of the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 02:10:49 No.58403493 Report

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>>58403033
They're just incompetent. It's that simple

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 02:13:10 No.58403510 Report

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>>58400870
It's not just that, there's activist philanthropy and literal government funding.
All kinds of government services are funding state propaganda in films, much of it progressive or civil rights oriented. It's how these films can lose tens of millions and still get made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 03:11:42 No.58404146 Report

Quoted By: >>58408613

>>58396820
Actually that's the fun part. You don't need a bugger budget if you can make Gazillions. From a business perspective Game Freak has a goldmine. Pokémon is able to run a couple million dollars into billions. Why mess with a working formula when there's suckers (us) willing to buy their kusoge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 03:15:58 No.58404192 Report

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>>58398285
The heads of Game Freak probably get a hard on on how little they can spend to make a game. Imagine having a brand do profitable that you can sell garbage and it still make a lot of money. Unlike other game developers who have to make actual good games in order to make money, Game Freak can keep pumping shit, after shit, after shit and make bank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 03:18:34 No.58404221 Report

Quoted By: >>58404270

>>58400029
Nintendo devs like Miyamoto probably scratch their heads how such shitty games sell but the suits love it because they can make shit work. I imagine inside the company the devs are probably like thank the Kamis we don't work at Game Freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 03:24:40 No.58404270 Report

Quoted By: >>58404287

>>58404221
Miyamoto helped BIRTH the fucking things, you dumb cunt. He was the one who suggested just TWO versions with exclusives, rather than Tajiri's idea of 6 thousand separate tables determined on initial game start-up. Sounds like you're projecting your own fee-fees onto Miyamoto-san there.
And all because you're mad they stopped making games for (You). Sad!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 03:26:56 No.58404287 Report

Quoted By: >>58404335

>>58404270
Yeah back when the games were fun little Gameboy JRPG. Miyamoto told Tajiri, you know you could make more money if you split the monsters and use that trading thing. He never imagined it would become the thing that is today. A man who is autistic as fuck on quality control to the point that he would tell his devs to start over if shit isn't working would never take ownership of what Pokémon became.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 03:32:26 No.58404335 Report

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>>58404287
Yeah, that's kinda the point - NO one knew it would take over the world. But no-one at Nintendo was going to stop it, nor act snootily over it (as pointed out, its success gave Nintendo a money pipeline to tank fails like Gamecube and WiiU) when it was helping pay their salaries.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 08:16:04 No.58406078 Report

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>>58396924

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Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 09:02:06 No.58406300 Report

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>>58400118
The studio founder's father is a real estate billionaire so the budget is actually even higher than that, he was funding them for 6-7 years before they got the $30m from publisher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 15:05:53 No.58408345 Report

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The games looks like shit because they are yearly, good games take years like new digimon,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 15:33:16 No.58408559 Report

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>>58396791
That’s low, Nintendo is just good at budgeting to make themselves viable in the long term

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 15:38:58 No.58408613 Report

Quoted By: >>58408753

>>58404146
It's not that fun.
While I agree development costs have ballooned to insane degrees, a 2x-3x increase in Pokemon budgets is probably warranted given GameFreak can't seem to make a game that has compelling post-story content and can't seem to release a game without glaring bugs.
$40-60m is still well under what Nintendo is currently spending on their flagships and even those are relatively cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 15:45:23 No.58408657 Report

Quoted By: >>58408723

>>58396791
>Flagship game has less than 10% of CP77's budget
BIGGEST MEDIA FRANCHISE IN HISTORY
SMALL INDIE COMPANY
PUREASU UNDASUTANDU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 15:55:19 No.58408723 Report

Quoted By: >>58408756

>>58408657
Honestly if anything it's all the more baffling how they even do this. Pokémon is a fucking money printing machine, holy fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 15:59:18 No.58408753 Report

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>>58408613
Honestly I wouldn't trust Game Freak with such a larger budget. Game Freak should instead be more of the ideas department and instead let a competent studio implement said ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 15:59:53 No.58408756 Report

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>>58408723
it's not baffling, the games only bring in like 3% of their total earnings for pokemon. it's more of an obligation to introduce future merch

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Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 16:04:41 No.58408797 Report

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please save money saars it's not a profit unless it's 20x the production costs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Oct 2025 16:10:59 No.58408852 Report

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>>58399942
They love the free money.
>>58399448
But also don't like reputation damage.
The fact that they can make gamefreak move into the same building as EPD tokyo is a bit of their powerplay.

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