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Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 21:40:11 No.58455461 View View Reply Original Report

>No Megas
>No Exclusive Z-Moves
>No Exclusive Gigantamax forms
>No Variants

Explain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 21:41:31 No.58455480 Report

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>>58455461
No need to improve perfection

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 21:43:03 No.58455496 Report

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>megashit
>z-shit
>gigantashit
>regionalshit
he doesn't need it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 21:43:53 No.58455502 Report

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>>58455461
It's called they took the L.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 21:44:15 No.58455505 Report

Quoted By: >>58457799 >>58460843

>>58455461
>>No Megas
99% chance of being meme fodder and skibbidi shit
>>No Exclusive Z-Moves
who care
>>No Exclusive Gigantamax forms
those are locked to Shitlar,
>>No Variants
no pokemon that got a variant (as in replacement) is loved or respected by anyone. (this doesn't apply to KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO mons because because they're KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 21:46:45 No.58455525 Report

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>>58455461
BDSP was a really obvious time to give the Gen 4 starters something to make them unique, even if it was just signature moves, but they were too obsessed with "muh faithful remake" shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 21:47:49 No.58455532 Report

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>>58455461
Gen 4 is shit and Serperior is already perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 21:53:04 No.58455567 Report

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the gen 4 bias is real

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 22:00:01 No.58455609 Report

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>>58455461
Serperior is shit and Gen 4 is already perfect.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 22:01:08 No.58455619 Report

Quoted By: >>58455640 >>58455661 >>58456749 >>58456815 >>58456818

>gets a shitty variant while his two contemporaries get Mega's

So he's just going to be outclassed by them forever and only given a shitty Variant huh? I honestly don't get GF's decisions. Yeah, Mega Feraligatr looks like shit but at least he'll be relevant. And are the Sinnoh trio going to be even usable in Champions with everyone running around with exclusive gimmicks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 22:04:02 No.58455640 Report

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>>58455619
>Yeah, Mega Feraligatr looks like shit but at least he'll be relevant.
It will be outclassed by the original with Sheer Force and Life Orb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 22:06:21 No.58455661 Report

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>>58455619
Pedo Freak assumed no Typhlosion fan would ever the touch the main series game after the freak leaks and the pokekike bullcrap, so it being outclassed doesn’t matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 22:09:33 No.58455678 Report

Quoted By: >>58458743

I no longer want them to get megas, I don’t trust modern Gamefreak to do them justice. We’d get some dumb shit like
>Torterra’s shell becomes a mountain and he has a leaf afro with spikes
>Infernape’s head becomes a fireball and its fists become scoops flaming shit out of its ass
>Empoleon’s neck grows really long so it looks like a trident

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 22:17:55 No.58455717 Report

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>>58455461
>>No Exclusive Z-Moves
but that's a huge win

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 22:37:01 No.58455807 Report

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How do we make them competitively viable without giving them gimmicks?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 22:47:20 No.58455885 Report

Quoted By: >>58455915

torterra should get seasonal and/or biome variants

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 22:50:52 No.58455915 Report

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>>58455885
Would you rather that than a Mega or Gigantamax for your bro? I feel like any chance for the Sinnoh starters to get anything at this point would be in a remake of PMD Time/Darkness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 22:57:24 No.58455969 Report

Quoted By: >>58456042

>>58455461
I can almost guarantee Serperior will get a GMax in Legends Galar and it will be broken as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 23:05:49 No.58456042 Report

Quoted By: >>58457406

>>58455969
That just leaves the matter of the other two starters. Though, you'd think it be common sense to make Snivy one of the starters...but that kind of fuck's over Turtwig as the other two would have to be Infernape and Piplup. Unless they just give all four of them Gigantamaxes with Turtwig being found in the wild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 23:09:33 No.58456081 Report

Quoted By: >>58456132

Isn't Gigantamax just a 3 turn signature Z-move in practice?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 23:16:30 No.58456132 Report

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>>58456081
Yeah, and once you use up your three moves you return to normal. Some mons just had forms exclusive to them like Kanto(oooooo), the Kalos trio, Snorlax, and Grimsnarl. Given, that Snivy was neglected in ZA it should get something at some point. As should the Sinnoh Trio. I've seen some say have Litten and Popplio as the other two but fuck those two. They already have exclusive Z moves (and Incen still very good in doubles).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 00:48:55 No.58456740 Report

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>>58455461
The original Sinnoh starters should have gotten Hisuian forms in PLA and side quests based around obtaining each one. Instead they were just dumped out in the zones with nothing new. PLZA did a much better job of respecting the OG starters for its region by giving them quests and new mega forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 00:50:34 No.58456749 Report

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>>58455619
>Got a variant that is actually useful unlike the other 2 which get humiliation ritual megashit that will never be used because paradoxmons,dracovish and old megas outclass them
Typhlosion won

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 00:57:01 No.58456781 Report

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>>58455461
plass was a tranny shit parasitical tech demo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 00:58:29 No.58456797 Report

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>>58455461
They deserve regional variants

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 00:58:54 No.58456799 Report

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>>58455915
it's the largest fucking multimedia franchise
they have no excuse to be incapable of both

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 01:00:22 No.58456815 Report

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>>58455619
The most likely outcome is that Typhlosion will be the only one of the trio to even have their alternate form in gen 10. It'll have some new gimmick and none of the megas, z-moves or gigantamax forms will make it in. Regional forms are permanent additions however.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 01:00:44 No.58456818 Report

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>>58455619
He's the most popular starter of his gen, and cyndaquil is retardedly popular, so at some point or another, he'll catch it too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 02:41:33 No.58457406 Report

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>>58456042
Z-A proves that they would have no problem using Snivy/Chimchar/Piplup as a trio, two starters from the same gen are apparently allowed. But by the time Legends Galar rolls around, they'll also have the option of using Litten and Popplio (since Hisuian Decidueye proves an exclusive Z-Move doesn't count for anything when it comes to getting new forms) as well as Sprigatito, Fuecoco, and Quaxly. PLA gave us a starter from the immediate previous gen, so odds are we could see a gen 9 starter in a gen 10 legends game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 03:50:47 No.58457799 Report

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>>58455505
type this again without crying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 03:58:10 No.58457837 Report

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>>58455461
Gamefreak hates good ideas, they would rather add more joke designs than listen to the fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 03:58:58 No.58457842 Report

Quoted By: >>58458694 >>58459321

>>58455461
>Contrary Leaf Storm
You need more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 04:30:50 No.58458021 Report

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>>58455461
All 4 are perfect just the way they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 06:19:49 No.58458667 Report

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>>58455461
Literally the four most solid starter lines design that aren't Gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 06:25:09 No.58458694 Report

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>>58457842
yeah, more Leaf Storm PP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 06:34:02 No.58458743 Report

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>>58455678
torterra with an afro and a tree as an afro pick would be based

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 06:41:10 No.58458777 Report

Quoted By: >>58458789

>>58455461
Torterra is getting a gigantimax in legends galar in 2028. Locked and loaded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 06:44:18 No.58458789 Report

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>>58458777
>Locked and loaded
Pokemon Gun confirmed??

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 06:47:01 No.58458800 Report

Quoted By: >>58458828

>>58458789
Yes its going to be called Pokémon legends: gun like we've all been waiting for and gmax torterra is going to have an entire battlefield or artillery and soldiers on its back

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 06:51:03 No.58458828 Report

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>>58458800
>ww1 torterra
kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 07:35:57 No.58459074 Report

Quoted By: >>58459081

>>58455461
>No Megas
>No Exclusive Z-Moves
>No Exclusive Gigantamax forms
>No Variants

And that's a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 07:36:59 No.58459081 Report

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>>58459074
Why
They're optional you don't have to use them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 08:14:03 No.58459216 Report

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>>58455461
They are based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 08:42:03 No.58459321 Report

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>>58457842
I would like a ground type equivalent, please

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 09:01:15 No.58459399 Report

Quoted By: >>58460158

>>58455461
Serperior will get something, that I am confident on.
Gen 4 starters though, not so sure.
And you could loop in Incineroar and Primarina in with this group if you drop the Z-Moves part, since Z-Moves are not FORMS specifically.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 11:04:52 No.58459888 Report

Quoted By: >>58460175

Sinnoh Starters were robbed on their own turf...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 12:10:50 No.58460158 Report

Quoted By: >>58460204

>>58459399
Are the Gen 4 starters not popular or something? I could have sworn at least Piplup was. Feels like the Sinnoh starters not getting anything is an oversight, or they are somehow, in GF's eyes, just in an awkward spot to give a gimmick to because they are in Gen 4 and they have to worry about the other remaining starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 12:14:50 No.58460175 Report

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>>58459888
look at the shitty forms they gave dialga and palkia while ignoring ever other pokemon from gen 4 lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 12:21:20 No.58460204 Report

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>>58460158
I think they’re just in an awkward spot
>BDSP didn’t have a gimmick
>Sinnohmons didn’t get anything in PLA for lore consistency
>SV didn’t have a (unique form) gimmick
>Kalos starters are more relevant for Megas in ZA
I’m kinda surprised they didn’t get anything in Mega Dimension, but maybe they’re in line for a GMax in Legends Galar or for whatever the Gen 10 gimmick will be

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 14:27:02 No.58460835 Report

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>>58455461
They almost got signature moves in PLA except not with Headlong Rush, Raging Fury and Wave Crash.

Serperior though nothing, but in due time it will come. Honestly, I'm not sold on the Gigantamax route for a potential Galar Legends game. Most Gigantamax forms and Dynamax forms already does everything and more you could ask for, so any other special form would be just almost redundant at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 14:28:04 No.58460843 Report

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>>58455505
sinnohfag coping so hard

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