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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 13:48:29 No.58483293 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>58483295 >>58483337 >>58483394 >>58483777 >>58483870

>WE MUST FIND THE STRONGEST MEGA EVOLUTION USER...... EXCEPT FOR DIANTHA. DEFINITELY NOT HER.
What did Gamefreak mean by this? Is she washed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 13:48:57 No.58483295 Report

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>>58483293
Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 13:49:55 No.58483303 Report

Quoted By: >>58483478

NPC says shes focusing on her acting career. Kalos just doesnt give a shit about league things. Their E4 has pretty much disbanded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 13:51:23 No.58483312 Report

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Diantha was a nepo hire. They gave her a Mega and propped her up as the face of Kalos because nobody gives a shit about "being the best" in the region, it's a shithole obsessed only with fashion and fucking each other

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 13:56:52 No.58483337 Report

Quoted By: >>58483442

>>58483293
>ITS A DISASTER, WE NEED THE STRONGEST MEGA EVOLUTION USER WE CAN GET RIGHT NOW
>diantha? nah
>calem and serena? nope
>korrina? who?
>korrina's grandfather, whose entire deal is being a master of mega evolution? no way fag
lmak

LEGENDS: Z-A sales

LEGENDS: Z-A sales Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:06:02 No.58483394 Report

Quoted By: >>58483402 >>58483457

>>58483293
Why do you guys act as if Diantha is meant to be relevant after XY? The champion is Calem, that's the one Quasartico is ignoring for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:07:48 No.58483402 Report

Quoted By: >>58483440 >>58483457

>>58483394
>The champion is Calem
Serena*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:10:47 No.58483421 Report

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>we must find the strongest mega evolution user
>but do not call anybody that we know may be strong
>just hold a tournament and hope that someone joins it that's good
Why didn't Quasar just call someone instead of bulldozing the neighborhood and starting nightly bumfights at the bus stop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:15:15 No.58483439 Report

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All they need to do is give Cynthia/Red a call...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:15:33 No.58483440 Report

Quoted By: >>58483445 >>58483469 >>58483596 >>58484501

>>58483402
Nope. The protagonist with the hat is the one that becomes the Champion, and that's canonically Calem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:15:39 No.58483442 Report

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>>58483337
Korrina is involved though, AZ's Lucario was given to him by Korrina to be his bodyguard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:16:06 No.58483445 Report

Quoted By: >>58483455 >>58483496 >>58484501

>>58483440
>canonically Calem.
nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:17:36 No.58483455 Report

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>>58483445
Stay mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:17:42 No.58483457 Report

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>>58483394
>>58483402
Neither Red or Hilbert/Hilda held the Champion title in sequel games I don't know why you think they're suddenly going to start now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:19:02 No.58483469 Report

Quoted By: >>58483496

>>58483440
This art is XY concept art, not necessarily new art drawn for ZA. I wouldn't really use anything in ZA it as a metric to confirm or deny canon, the protagonist is the Looker of Lumiose and they're not even mentioned, are they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:19:52 No.58483478 Report

Quoted By: >>58483494 >>58483511 >>58483873

>>58483303
I know one of them quit to become a chef, is there lore on the other members?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:22:15 No.58483494 Report

Quoted By: >>58483873

>>58483478
The museum mentions Wikstrom of the Elite Four when you examine Kamado's armor in the context of an interview, and I believe they used the present tense when referring to to him, so I believe he's still an active member.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:22:26 No.58483496 Report

Quoted By: >>58483512 >>58483531

>>58483445
>>58483469
>denial
I'm sorry you can't handle Calem beating the crap out of Serena, Diantha and every NPC in XY.
Serena will never wear the hat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:24:32 No.58483511 Report

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>>58483478
Apparently one NPC questions what happened to Malva, so there's a good chance she quit or went down with the rest of team flare

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:24:39 No.58483512 Report

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>>58483496
cope and seethe, homosexual

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:26:42 No.58483531 Report

Quoted By: >>58483540 >>58483635

>>58483496
I mean, I'm fine with Calem being the protagonist, but I'm just pointing out that it's concept art and that nothing seems to confirm it being the case, especially with the protagonist being missing from the Looker Bureau and the ZA Royale. On a separate note, I feel like a tournament setting is the best way to have cameos, so it's odd that nobody but literal whos are participating in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:28:05 No.58483540 Report

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>>58483531
Anon you shouldn't use logic with fags

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:38:01 No.58483596 Report

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>>58483440
Care to explain how a painting proves anything?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:40:40 No.58483608 Report

Quoted By: >>58483894

>Host Tournament
>Kalos was SO low power level despite discovering Megas only brand new trainers attend the tourney instead of known characters who all left Kalos because they wanted to leave

This game is a humiliation ritual for XY fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:45:31 No.58483635 Report

Quoted By: >>58483649 >>58483690

>>58483596
>>58483531
That concept art painting canonically exists in-universe. Calem and Serena canonically wear hats only if they are the protagonist of the game, the rival never wears one.
That paiting existing disproves Serena being the protagonist, deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:47:22 No.58483649 Report

Quoted By: >>58483691

>>58483635
PokeMas makes Calem as the rival despite wearing his hat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:52:56 No.58483690 Report

Quoted By: >>58483745

>>58483635
>artist puts some paint on a canvas
>it means that it's an event that happened for real
Holy shit I never realized gods and titans existed in real life.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:53:11 No.58483691 Report

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>>58483649
>but the gachashit said...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:59:16 No.58483742 Report

Quoted By: >>58483835

>no, you don't understand, I played as the girl to dress up and the tv show had her on display, that means she MUST be canon
Except Ash was created as an expy for Gen 1's Red and persisted through the series, taking the male MC's role in all series based on the games they did. That includes being the MC of XY while the skirt did the girly side-adventure shit that was irrelevant to the progression of XY (and didn't even exist, save in the tv advert as a means to implement an NPC with plot relevance into the tv advert).n Calem's the MC of XY, because it was Ash that went to the League at the end, just as the player defeats the E4 and Champion in the process of completing the game.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 14:59:51 No.58483745 Report

Quoted By: >>58483806

>>58483690
>the artist just randomly decided to make this kid wear a hat, which we know is the indicator for him being the protagonist, because... uhhhh....
fucking kek
If pic related was a painting too would you say the artist just came up with the idea of "Champion Serena's" rival wearing a hat and stopping Xerneas in the Team Flare hideout too? That's an unholy amount of cope, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:04:16 No.58483777 Report

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>>58483293
She's probably focused on her movie career or teaching acting classes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:08:11 No.58483806 Report

Quoted By: >>58483866

>>58483745
You seem to have difficulty grasping this fundamental point so I will have to be quite clear.
Paintings do not necessarily depict real historical events.
Therefore, it has no real bearing on canonical events, and no irrelevant babbling on your part can change that.
>if-
Not in the game, not worth addressing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:12:54 No.58483835 Report

Quoted By: >>58483862

>>58483742
Don't forget they applied this so thoroughly they even respected the mere existence of female MCs or not
>no femMC whatsoever in gen 1 so you only get Ash and gym leaders in the quest for the league while fighting Team Rocket
>no femMC at first in gen 2 so you keep Ash and gym leaders in a repeat of the previous gen
>femMC is actually in the story in gen 3 so you get Ash, a gym leader and the femMC in the league challenge while Magma/Aqua do their thing
>femMC is in the story in gen 4 again so again you get Ash, the gym leader and the new femMC for the league and randomly encountering Team Galactic
>femMC aren't in the plot of gen 5 so Ash gets just two gym leaders again, meets Zekrom, N and his Reshiram, goes to the league etc
>femMC is back into the plot in gen 6 so Ash travels with another gym leader and the femMC again, fights Team Flare, league etc
>femMC doesn't exist at all in gen 7 or 8 if you pick the male so it's just Ash and the trial captains (and the Pokemon GO OC) fighting Ultra Beasts/Eternatus and becoming Alola's first champion/beating Galar's unbeatable champion
They even made a mini arc where Lyra shows up in gen 4 to make up for gen 2 not having its femMC represented when the remakes added one to the story.
And now in gen 9 Liko's story isn't based on any protagonist's and she just has an alternative plot while the events of the game happened off screen so she's still not Juliana. Hell her ahoge is actually more like Florian's hair too. Girls have never been the protagonists of the games.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:13:03 No.58483837 Report

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lol
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:17:45 No.58483855 Report

Quoted By: >>58483863

Diantha doing a tasteful erotic film with Cynthia and Elesa

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:19:20 No.58483862 Report

Quoted By: >>58483880

>>58483835
And they made a Legends Arceus special and the protagonist, the kid who gets Laventon's starters, is obviously Rei, not Akari.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:19:32 No.58483863 Report

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>>58483855
Good. Kalos's system is a joke anyways people are better off doing other things

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:20:31 No.58483866 Report

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>>58483806
You seem to be fully able to see why you are wrong, as I pointed out, and yet you pretend to be dumb. Sad.
But don't worry I'm sure someone will fall for your "the artist just randomly drew the rival with a hat because" cope, the world is a wide place and people this dumb do exist, after all.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:21:36 No.58483870 Report

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>>58483293
Because they wanted the game to be focused on the OCs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:22:03 No.58483873 Report

Quoted By:

>>58483478
>>58483494
There's an NPC that asks where Malva disappeared to in Z-A, implying she went off-the-radar when Team Flare disbanded. Probably safe to assume that she's in hiding or in prison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:23:34 No.58483880 Report

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>>58483862
Most spinoff media heavily focus on Rei as the isekai protag, it'd be pretty delusional to say he isn't at this point I'd argue. Compared to B2W2 and most 3D games, but they still play coy about it because they don't want to give "definitive" answers which is why we never see protags show up in later games. Red just has an out because his generation is the only one that doesn't have a female player character

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:27:06 No.58483894 Report

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>>58483608
They're sectioning off the city every night to find the best trainer and literally no one from the 1st game 5 years ago can be bothered to participate. Not even Emma even though she's present and uses a team of Pokemon that can all Mega Evolve. So no one is actually taking the events of the game seriously. And frankly everyone in Kalos thinks Lumiose is a shit hole and wouldn't mind it disappearing. Seems reasonable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:28:28 No.58483901 Report

Quoted By: >>58483914 >>58483934

The funny thing about this thread is how people are pretending to care about calem

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:30:40 No.58483914 Report

Quoted By: >>58483934

>>58483901
It's just disguised culture war nonsense people just want men to be the default they don't care if that character is a complete faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:33:33 No.58483934 Report

Quoted By: >>58483941 >>58483946

>>58483901
>>58483914
>waifufag ran out of arguments and is talking to himself about how bad it is people don't pick their player's skin based on what makes them coom
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:35:22 No.58483941 Report

Quoted By: >>58483978

>>58483934
You're boring. You just want to talk about why faggot men should be the default pick because of troonshit or something. Why would people want to argue about that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:35:41 No.58483946 Report

Quoted By: >>58483978

>>58483934
>Waifufag
>Waifufag
>Waifufag
Only on 4chan faggots will call your out for liking girls over boys lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:41:48 No.58483978 Report

Quoted By: >>58483981 >>58483983

>>58483941
>>58483946
>i-if you aren't a coomer driven waifutard you don't like women or want to be a man that wants to be a woman or..!
Or maybe I just have control over my sexuality unlike you and I can separate jerking off from playing videogames. Seek help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:43:04 No.58483981 Report

Quoted By: >>58483999

>>58483978
>CONTROL YOUR SEX DRIVE

I play male characters. You're just boring and annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:43:29 No.58483983 Report

Quoted By: >>58483999

>>58483978
We know you like pokeboys no need to be this defensive about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:46:45 No.58483999 Report

Quoted By: >>58484004

>>58483981
>redditspacing
Not even reading your shitpost.

>>58483983
>unironically proving me right
KEK thank you, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:47:31 No.58484004 Report

Quoted By: >>58484014

>>58483999
We know you loves pokeboys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:49:22 No.58484014 Report

Quoted By: >>58484026

>>58484004
Yes, yes, anon, you either use a girl as avatar to coom your brains out or you don't like girls at all, whatever makes you sleep at night (assuming you can even sleep instead of just jerking off until you pass out)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:50:40 No.58484026 Report

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>>58484014
>Yes, yes, anon, you either use a girl as avatar to coom your brains out or you don't like girls at all
Correct!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:55:51 No.58484055 Report

Quoted By: >>58484068 >>58484753

>barely appeared in XY despite being the region’s champion
>jobbed to Leon in the anime
>has less fan art than Geeta
>didn’t even appear in ZA, and Leon was referenced more
Why does GameFreak hate her so much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 15:58:08 No.58484068 Report

Quoted By: >>58484651

>>58484055
Because their "Cynthia 2 who uses the most popular Psychic Pokemon Gardevoir as her Ace" was a fucking flop. Game Freak thought she'd be such an instant hit they didn't put any work into making people like her

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 16:31:56 No.58484228 Report

Quoted By: >>58484260 >>58484268 >>58484516

We should remember that Z-A is a Lumiose City game. Not a Kalos game. So it wouldn't make sense for all the Kalos NPCs to suddenly happen to be in Lumiose City during the events of Legends Z-A.

That said, I still have some questions about people and facilities that were located in Lumiose City during the events of XY:
>Where is Clemont? He was the Gym Leader of Lumiose City just 5 years earlier
>Where is the Lumiose Gym? Why doesn't the biggest City in Kalos even have a Gym now?
>Where is the PR Videos studio? That was my favourite side content from XY.
>Where is the Battle Institute?
>Where is Hotel Richissime? Is it even in Z-A?
>Why no Amie and Super Training?

I would appreciate if someone can answer those questions. Are there any in-universe reasons given?

And do you expect some of these to return with the DLC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 16:36:06 No.58484260 Report

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>>58484228
The hotel is in ZA, you go there to fight Jacinthe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 16:36:45 No.58484268 Report

Quoted By: >>58484448 >>58484472 >>58484717

>>58484228
The NPCs say the gym had to be removed for the renovations so it's probably intended to be a temporary thing, Clemont is probably acting as leader somewhere else like Blaine after the cinnabar volcano erupted.
The video studio is mentioned, it exists, you just can't make your own video now.
The battle institute is gone apparently.
The hotel exists and is "relevant".
Amie and super training died gens ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 17:05:12 No.58484448 Report

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>>58484268
>The video studio is mentioned, it exists, you just can't make your own video now.
That really sucks desu. It would have been better if they outright removed it, instead of teasing it like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 17:09:23 No.58484472 Report

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>>58484268
>super training
Super Training was invented by Clermont right? It would make sense for it to be popular precisely in Lumiose City. But maybe it's not popular anymore, 5 years later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 17:14:08 No.58484501 Report

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>>58483440
kek troon delusions shattered by based gamefreak
>>58483445
dilate and kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 17:16:18 No.58484516 Report

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>>58484228
You should probably remember that Lumiose is a major metropolitan area and the biggest city in Kalos. While I'm not surprised that characters like Ramos or Gurkinn don't appear, characters like Professor Sycamore, Diantha, or Clemont not appearing is egregious. I think you're also missing things like roller skates, O-powers, and the Gogoat Shuttle. Did you know that Mamoswine in Lumiose are popular models for a perfume company? They can't even be caught in the game. Even things like the Pokemon distributions make no sense to me: Pokemon from outside Lumiose are being called into the city, yet Pokemon from the routes directly outside of Lumiose(the ones that would be called in) are suspiciously absent. You should be able to catch Pokemon like Dudou and Skitty. Ultimately, the game doesn't care about representing Lumiose or Kalos, it utilized the location poorly, and it shows how everyone's assumptions of them using just Lumiose was a corner-cutting measure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 17:43:30 No.58484651 Report

Quoted By: >>58484688

>>58484068
Leon was a total flop too and they keep shoving him and pushing him down our throats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 17:50:31 No.58484688 Report

Quoted By: >>58484733

>>58484651
Nobody brought up Leon, but he's a flop for significantly different reasons than Diantha. From the looks of the Teraleaks he was going to actually be a real character and not a mascot but they cut his character dynamics to give him a bimbo childhood friend who does nothing instead of a good story

Diantha straight up just doesn't do anything that no amount of "why didn't she work?" matters as an argument. She didn't work because they didn't try in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 17:56:36 No.58484717 Report

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>>58484268
Another NPC says that clemont actually sold off the gym, so he’s probably not a gym leader anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 17:58:20 No.58484730 Report

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The strongest Mega Evolution is Zygarde, and it picked you to be its user

Ergo, you're the strongest Mega Evolution user

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 17:59:01 No.58484733 Report

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>>58484688
Point is one is a flop but they keep trying to force it while the other was also a flop and didn't even try to salvage it despite many times they could have do so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Oct 2025 18:02:14 No.58484753 Report

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>>58484055
If they wanted her to be popular they wouldn't have given her the Lisa Simpson hairdo

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