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Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 12:50:06 No.58533531 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>58533640 >>58533678 >>58533695 >>58534294 >>58534992 >>58535001 >>58535003 >>58536619 >>58537309

Behold, the biggest jobber of the Pokemon world
>was a champion for less than 2 years
>lost to the protagonist in GSC, HGSS, BW2, SM, USUM and Let's Go
>NPCs never talk about him like they talk about other champions and former champions

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 13:13:34 No.58533640 Report

Quoted By: >>58534247 >>58534825

>>58533531
He also lost to Lance between RBGY/FRLG and GSC/HGSS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 13:22:29 No.58533678 Report

Quoted By: >>58534992 >>58537242

>>58533531
And yet he's still remembered as le strongest trainer in history and pushed as such by both fans and TPC. Not that I see it as a good thing, mind you, I wish the GSC protags got the recognition and prestige they deserve (defeated Team Rocket for good, won 16 badges, defeated Red)... but it is what it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 13:26:25 No.58533695 Report

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>>58533531
Contrary to popular belief, Game Freak couldn't care less about Red. His appearance in SM was a mere afterthought thrown in the post-game because it was the anniversary or something. But for some reason, the Mastersex guys wanted to present him as someone important. And now you have a portion of the fandom convinced that Red is GF special kid when they've actually forgotten about him long ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 15:19:43 No.58534247 Report

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>>58533640
I thought he just gave up the title

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 15:24:40 No.58534294 Report

Quoted By: >>58534807

>>58533531
>lost in the Johto Games
Debatable, they keep the canon outcome of that battle vague for the sake of maintaining Red's reputation.
>B2W2
PWT's international brackets basically aren't canon considering they let known Yakuza Boss Giovanni join the festivities without any problem, all the while he's actively brooding and plotting vengeance for all to hear and see.
>SMUSUM
Debatably never actually happened because the Alola protagonist could've chose to fought Blue instead, and battles within the Battle Tree are dubiously canon.
>LGPE
Completely different continuity, doesn't count as a blemish to Red Prime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 16:49:24 No.58534807 Report

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>>58534294
Id say that only the johto games are valid and canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 16:52:17 No.58534825 Report

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>>58533640
>he lost to Lance
That's a good joke anon. Red just walked away without saying anything and nobody could find or contact him because he doesn't have a phone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 16:53:07 No.58534828 Report

Quoted By: >>58536662

>Post game stuff
Look I'm not some Redfag that constantly props him up to be the strongest ever or some shit but post game stuff should never be counted. The only thing here you can really count is the Johto games since they deliberately make the credits play after you beat him on Mt Silver.

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Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 17:15:11 No.58534992 Report

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>>58533678
>>58533531
CYNTHIA IS THE BIGGEST LOSER SIMP

STAY MAD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 17:16:23 No.58535001 Report

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>>58533531
Blue jobbed 5 minutes after becoming a Champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 17:16:31 No.58535003 Report

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>>58533531
don't blame Red, blame the disgusting amount of powercreep that got worse and worse after his generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 21:09:29 No.58536619 Report

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>>58533531
Gold's bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 21:16:04 No.58536658 Report

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>>58533695
>And now you have a portion of the fandom convinced that Red is GF special kid
Yeah, ashfags have been pushing this for years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 21:17:05 No.58536662 Report

Quoted By: >>58536977

>>58534828
He's the Goku of the pokemon fanbase, everything's valid in order to make him look worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 22:09:55 No.58536977 Report

Quoted By: >>58537215 >>58537339

>>58536662
I think even Goku is more cherished than Red. Yumes in general don't seem to have much affection for the character, and the male fanbase only accepts Cynthia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 22:46:45 No.58537215 Report

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>>58536977
Obviously, he's more popular than Red.
I meant in the sense that the haters of both act the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 22:49:59 No.58537242 Report

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>>58533678
> wish the GSC protags got the recognition and prestige they deserve (defeated Team Rocket for good, won 16 badges, defeated Red). ... but it is what it is.
Game Freak would rather commit sodoku than make the GSC protags or really anything from Johto look cool. Unfortunately that poisonous mentally leaks into the rest of TPC as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 23:02:46 No.58537309 Report

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>>58533531
I like Red. He makes a nice simple bonus boss.
You dont need any backstory.
He doesnt need any dialogue.

Just a battle with a trainer that has enough raw power to keep up with the player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 23:06:47 No.58537339 Report

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>>58536977
Thats because Red is more so popular with fujos who ship him with blue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 23:10:21 No.58537365 Report

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Any player character who appears as an NPC will lose to the current player, that's just how video games are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Oct 2025 23:12:20 No.58537375 Report

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>>58537339
And genwunners. But those usually don't spend much time on the internet

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