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Kalosbros? Explain this to me

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 16:51:20 No.58552815 View View Reply Original Report

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>They essentially try and bring Team Flare (a dangerous organisation) back to life, and go around calling themselves the new Team Flare
>Grisham still believes in Team Flare's ideology
>He also has access to Mega Evolution despite it supposedly being something that is supposed to be gatekept in Kalos for safety reasons
>The Kalos police do literally nothing about this
>The MC fistbumps them after their rant as if nothing just happened
Um... what

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 16:52:57 No.58552819 Report

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>>58552815
>>Grisham still believes in Team Flare's ideology
To keep the world beautiful, yes.
>>He also has access to Mega Evolution despite it supposedly being something that is supposed to be gatekept in Kalos for safety reasons
Until AZ learned how to make them and mass distributed them to stop Ange.
>The Kalos police do literally nothing about this
Selling coffee isn't a crime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 16:54:29 No.58552831 Report

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>>58552815
I mean what do you expect, they literally left the old Team Flare HQ as is despite it being a crime scene. To the point the place still had access to electricity kek. Made close to 0 effort to stop Team Flare despite throwing a few of them in jail

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 17:02:44 No.58552865 Report

Quoted By: >>58559541

>>58552815
They even have the new Team Flare logo on their aprons after the game ends lmao

X2Y2 when bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 17:06:00 No.58552881 Report

Quoted By: >>58555571 >>58563293

While I liked the characters the unwillingness to commit to a villain just made the ZA story shit and the game larps like someone is secretly evil when in reality everyone wants to do the same exact thing to save the city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 17:29:36 No.58553012 Report

Quoted By: >>58553052

>>58552815
Pretty sure team flares ideology is fine, whats wrong is the way Lysandre went about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 17:36:27 No.58553052 Report

Quoted By: >>58553129 >>58558988

>>58553012
Except Grisham literally says that there are too many people and that's a problem that Team Flare will have to address. There's not really many moral ways of addressing that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 17:49:55 No.58553129 Report

Quoted By: >>58553184

>>58553052
Wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 17:59:35 No.58553184 Report

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>>58553129
How? When we go to Lysandre labs he explains his ideology which is identical to the original Team Flare's. They just didn't agree with him actually using the ultimate weapon. But they leave Team Flare Nouveau as an unresolved plot point. Ultimately they still believe in the ideology and that's the core issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 18:38:32 No.58553398 Report

Quoted By: >>58553413

>>58552815
It’s a shame that illiterate people like OP can somehow write
>The Kalos police to literally nothing
Like, this person didn’t even play the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 18:41:57 No.58553413 Report

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>>58553398
Then explain it instead of acting smug

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Nov 2025 20:19:13 No.58554001 Report

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>>58552815
>"neo team flare" is just a coffee business
>new team just wants to make the world a better place, even says that lysandre was retarded for trying to nuke civilization
>mega evo isnt gatekept. it's so accessible now that you regularly bump into NPCs that do it during the royale
>he was underage when team flare got disband. They suggest that anyone with connections with flare is monitored/dont have all their freedoms like cable
>they arent bad guys, they hate that they still have a reputation for wanting to drop a nuke, so they just wanted to save the city and clear their name. So they have the same goal as MC but different motives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 00:52:09 No.58555571 Report

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>>58552881
What would a villain add to the story?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 00:58:06 No.58555608 Report

Quoted By: >>58555727 >>58557191

>>58552815
He was a child during XY and belives in Team Flare's original motive of helping the poor, not Lysandre's depopulation agenda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 01:00:43 No.58555621 Report

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>who is the strongest trainer?
>me obviously I beat Urbain's ass
>nooooooo stop let me go up the tower anyways
>Floette agrees
>entire point of finding the Strongest Mega Evolution User was invalidated just because
>proceeds to blow my wish on infinite battle royale instead of a trillion dollars and an island in Aloha
can someone break this down for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 01:02:16 No.58555634 Report

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Team Flair

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 01:24:13 No.58555727 Report

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>>58555608
XY was only 5 years ago

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Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 02:04:40 No.58555953 Report

Quoted By: >>58556355 >>58557191 >>58558910

>>58555727
Yes, and he and Griselle were minors 5 years ago. They're the kids of Team Flare members

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 02:10:42 No.58555991 Report

Quoted By: >>58557141

I was waiting for the rival to have the Team Flair connection since they have the red gradient hair and mysterious backstory and their favorite cafe was the Flare cafe.Or like the whole thing with Ange going berserk would be because it sensed their latent anger at the world for what happened to team flare. But it all got waved away to be DLC or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 02:39:49 No.58556148 Report

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>>58552815
ZA's story is a fucking joke, literal baby game lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 03:24:24 No.58556355 Report

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>>58555953
Damn, they seem older to only be minors five years ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 06:03:19 No.58557035 Report

Quoted By: >>58563306

>>58552815
Criminals are treated like jokes in the Pokemon world, no one gives a fuck if you commit a crime and are okay with you doing whatever unless you try to destroy the world as which point a player characters will put you on your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 06:45:49 No.58557141 Report

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>>58555991
>He didn't play the post game
>He didn't complete the Infinite Z-A Royale quest
It specifically lays out that the rival was in Lumiose trying to find someone connected to their late mom. As it turns out, that person was Jett from Quasartico, who confesses that the mom is her daughter (making her rival's grandma), and the two of them had a falling out years ago over the holo tech mom invented. Mom ended up joining Team Flare and gave the holo tech to them, then at some point between then and XY, died.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 06:52:27 No.58557158 Report

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>>58555727
Legends Z-A should’ve taken ten years minimum after XY, a 5 year gap seems way too short.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 07:08:39 No.58557191 Report

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>>58555608
>>58555727
>>58555953
he looks about 35

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 12:51:59 No.58557980 Report

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>>58552815
His hair color reminds me of Lysander's new color, with the old Team Flare colors.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 13:01:13 No.58558025 Report

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>>58552815
Kalos unironically by large agrees with and sympathizes with Team Flare, and most of all Lysandre. This was true in XY, so it's not surprising this is even more true in LZA.
Did you miss the part in XY where Malva was allowed to keep her jobs despite literally being a known member of Team Flare, Sycamore being a Lysandre apologist after the reality of things came out, or your rival telling you about how "it was us against Team Flare... but if you ask me, neither side was right" at Victory Road?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 16:12:54 No.58558882 Report

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>>58552815
Probably (hopefully) a plot point in the DLC

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Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 16:19:20 No.58558910 Report

Quoted By: >>58558946 >>58558952 >>58559927

>>58555953
>tfw I can't just leave lumiose!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 16:25:57 No.58558946 Report

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>>58558910
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 16:26:36 No.58558952 Report

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>>58558910
Most realistic motivation in the story desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 16:32:14 No.58558988 Report

Quoted By: >>58559255 >>58563310

>>58553052
>Except Grisham literally says that there are too many people and that's a problem that Team Flare will have to address
The point of Gris saying this is to reestablish Lysandre's original arc: that he wanted to spend his wealth healing the world's ills but there are too many people and too many conflicting interests to just throw money at and expect to be fixed. Gris is literally saying they will have to come back around to discuss how to overcome this issue that no one organization has the resources to fix every problem and not get mindbroken like Lys, which is sort of the point of the game. In the end no one group or person has the silver bullet answer, but people from all walks of life and conflicting interests/ideals come together to save the city from what is effectively a natural disaster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 17:24:28 No.58559255 Report

Quoted By: >>58559447 >>58559558

>>58558988
>>58558988
Thaat sounds kinda woke so I hope that's not what the story is about

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 17:28:14 No.58559269 Report

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>>58552815
>>He also has access to Mega Evolution despite it supposedly being something that is supposed to be gatekept in Kalos for safety reasons
that was 5 years before, anon
now they're being mass produced and handed out to literally everyone with even the slightest bit of skill as a trainer, it's why you see it even from random faceless fuckheads in the royale

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 18:06:17 No.58559443 Report

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>>58552815
>He also has access to Mega Evolution despite it supposedly being something that is supposed to be gatekept in Kalos for safety reasons
It isn't.
Everything else is just the usual shit pokemon does of 0 accountability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 18:07:25 No.58559447 Report

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>>58559255
That's not woke at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 18:16:05 No.58559489 Report

Quoted By: >>58559499

sounds like someone hasn't been keeping up with the discourse
the very concept of cooperation between different groups is woke now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 18:17:25 No.58559499 Report

Quoted By: >>58561829

>>58559489
>its not grifting if we do it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 18:23:32 No.58559541 Report

Quoted By: >>58559696

>>58552865
We just got our X2Y2 anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 18:26:38 No.58559558 Report

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>>58559255
You are a low IQ dog and my contempt for you is only abated by the fact that you will waste away your life doing nothing and shitting your pants over nonsense

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 18:59:04 No.58559696 Report

Quoted By: >>58563219

>>58559541
It's close. I'll count it if the DLC has at least Korrina return. 1 more returning character would make it feel like X2Y2. And one direct mention of Serena/Calem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 19:47:38 No.58559927 Report

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>>58558910
So she's stuck in the purgatorial city as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Nov 2025 22:38:42 No.58560810 Report

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>>58552815
Yeah it is quite weird how they try and absolve them of responsibility. Yet them seem to know all about Xerneas and Yveltal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Nov 2025 02:17:03 No.58561829 Report

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>>58559499
that's not what grifting is bub

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Nov 2025 09:22:55 No.58563219 Report

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>>58559696
>I'll count it if the DLC has at least Korrina return
was honestly surprised we didnt get that desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Nov 2025 09:48:28 No.58563293 Report

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>>58552881
Because this is how it works in real life

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Nov 2025 09:51:18 No.58563306 Report

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>>58557035
Maybe because if you do something really bad you will have legendaries blown your ass off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Nov 2025 09:53:04 No.58563310 Report

Quoted By: >>58563318

>>58558988
So simple yet people fucking miss the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Nov 2025 09:56:41 No.58563318 Report

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>>58563310
Its not their fault the game barely explains this

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