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>>58583348
>Counting Iron Jugulis and Iron Thorns
Those 2 are just straight up worse entirely different Pokemon. Goodra-H at least shares the same dex number as Goodra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 14:24:23 No.58583418 Report

Quoted By: >>58584086

>>58583348
>based on the UK
Yes, yes it did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 14:32:47 No.58583459 Report

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>>58583348
Kommo-o deserve a new form too...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 14:52:05 No.58583538 Report

Quoted By: >>58583668

>>58583348
>Tyranitar, Salamence and Garchomp get not one but two revisions before Dragapult gets something
>has to wait until Galar's Legends game in 2028
KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 15:20:13 No.58583654 Report

Quoted By: >>58583680

>>58583348
GMax Dragapult is probably going to be the most broken shit on here

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 15:22:21 No.58583668 Report

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>>58583538
dragapult gets the benefit of nugen treatment like better stat spread and moves. It's a decent tradeoff. Baxcalibur getting a mega this early while having all the benefits of nugen (broken ass ability and moves) feels wrong even though I like mega bax

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 15:23:51 No.58583675 Report

Quoted By: >>58583962

>>58583348
It has a signature move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 15:25:01 No.58583680 Report

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>>58583654
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 15:25:56 No.58583681 Report

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>>58583348
it deserved worse, that shit is the ugliest pseudo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 15:27:05 No.58583685 Report

Quoted By: >>58584069

Fuck Galar...what about Sinnoh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 15:29:02 No.58583696 Report

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>>58583348
Base Dragapult is probably beating half of the forms on here

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 15:36:06 No.58583729 Report

Quoted By: >>58583989

>>58583348
Dragapult is minmaxed to shit and any mega designed with competence and not kneecapped like chomp will put every other mon on this list in the ER. Ghost is broken as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 15:36:59 No.58583734 Report

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>>58583366
why do people keep acting like forms are some zero-sum game. as if Shitzard doesn't have a Gmax, Mega, Tera and whatever the fuck else they feel like giving him

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 16:20:08 No.58583950 Report

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>>58583409
Those different pokemon are straight up ancient/futuristic copies of the pseudos, not much different from making them alt/extra evos

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 16:22:03 No.58583962 Report

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>>58583675
So does Baxcalibur, who has a mega. And Kommo-o, who got a signature move specifically to made up for the lack of signature Z-move after USUM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 16:27:00 No.58583982 Report

Quoted By: >>58584001 >>58584014 >>58585103 >>58585181

>>58583348
So fucking sick of niggas counting Clangorous Cockblaze on the same level as a Mega or a Regional form. Kommo-o deserves some real shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 16:27:48 No.58583989 Report

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>>58583729
Funny thing is that Pult isnt even that minmaxed, only his speed is. If he was truly min maxxed they wouldnt have bothered with his mixed attack stat spread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 16:29:29 No.58584001 Report

Quoted By: >>58584125

>>58583982
??? Blame Gen 7 for making it's shitty gimmick Z moves then. Kommo-o got his special snowflake treatment in his gen and it doesn't matter that it wasnt some new form because that's not what gen 7 was focused on (for Alola mons)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 16:33:24 No.58584014 Report

Quoted By: >>58584125

>>58583982
>some real shit
Too bad for Alolasuckers because Z MOVES are your shit. It doesnt matter if you dont think its on the same level as megas GF thinks thats the case

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 16:46:18 No.58584069 Report

Quoted By: >>58585034 >>58585047

>>58583685
Blame PLA for hating its own region. ZA was good to Gen 6 starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 16:49:15 No.58584086 Report

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>>58583348
>>58583418
You can always make fun of people whose first language is english, it's always morally correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 16:59:39 No.58584125 Report

Quoted By: >>58585192

>>58584001
>>58584014
Fuck off fags. You’ll be sorry when we get Johtoian Kommo-O in the full Japan region

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 17:01:44 No.58584141 Report

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Getting nothing is less embarrassing than getting that dogshit Iron Jugulis lol
Hydreigon is suffering

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 17:49:31 No.58584371 Report

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Salamence > Metagross > Garchomp > Kommo-o > Tyranitar > Baxcalibur > Dragapault > Hydreigon > Dragonite > Goodra

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 17:51:14 No.58584380 Report

Quoted By: >>58584470

Poor Dragapult, it only gets a super special signature move with smart targeting, unlike the privileged Hydreigon that gets a mockery of an imitation and a whole type invented to fuck it over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 18:12:46 No.58584470 Report

Quoted By: >>58585021

>>58584380
>dragcuckfag is now pretending a signature move is something remotely special
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 18:14:26 No.58584480 Report

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>>58583348
Dragapult is still one of the strongest things here with no transformation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 18:16:42 No.58584490 Report

Quoted By: >>58584493 >>58584522 >>58585208

>>58583366
>check gmaxes
>only pokemon that isn't from Kanto or Galar is Garbodor
holy shit why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 18:17:36 No.58584493 Report

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>>58584490
Saving them for Legends Galar, this has always been the plan :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 18:24:24 No.58584522 Report

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>>58584490
Well there's also Melmetal... who is in a way a Kantomon too because despite debuting in gen 7, it was in the Kanto game that cut every pokemon after Mew in the dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:00:02 No.58585021 Report

Quoted By: >>58585052

>>58584470
>dragcuckfag
Genuinely don't know what this buzzword salad is supposed to suggest.
>pretending a signature move is something remotely special
You're right, Smeargle's most unique feature is actually moody.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:02:14 No.58585034 Report

Quoted By: >>58588038

>>58584069
Why would they give regional variants to Pokemon from sinnoh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:04:45 No.58585047 Report

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>>58584069
>ZA was good to Gen 6 starters
>their mega stones are exclusive to multiplayer
Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:06:07 No.58585052 Report

Quoted By: >>58585094

>>58585021
>I don't have reading comprehension and I pretend Dragapult's darts are the same as being able to copy any move!
You just have some humilliation fetish huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:16:11 No.58585094 Report

Quoted By: >>58585105

>>58585052
So since we have reached an agreement that signature moves can be remotely special, do you want to rephrase your textvomit to what you actually wanted to say?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:17:44 No.58585100 Report

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At leas it didnt get an obese robot form like Hydreigon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:18:42 No.58585103 Report

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>>58583982

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:19:10 No.58585105 Report

Quoted By: >>58585245

>>58585094
No, thanks, anyone with at least two braincells knows what I said. Pretty nice of you to phrase your post like that, too, admitting signature moves have absolutely nothing special (inherently) and thus leaving Dragapult with nothing because there's nothing special about it.
You may as well say the Paldea starters already got their gimmicks because they also have signature moves lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:33:56 No.58585159 Report

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>>58583348
Bax looks so shit compared to his mega now lmfao, he looks bald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:38:36 No.58585181 Report

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>>58583982
I wouldn’t even count a regional form, those don’t elevate the original, make it stronger or even more respected. It just replace it . It’s no coincidence that the only Psuedos that got a regional was fucking Goodra, the only Psuedos to flop
Though paradoxes are a weird area

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:40:28 No.58585192 Report

Quoted By: >>58585197

>>58584125
>Johto ever being revisited
Even if game freak did game with all of Japan they would leave johto out, they either hate Johto or are embarrassed by it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:41:10 No.58585197 Report

Quoted By: >>58587862

>>58585192
Anon Seed got already leaked and they want to add all of PokeJapan, even Kitakami

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:44:20 No.58585208 Report

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>>58584490
Z-Moves were even worse, absolutely no special Z-Moves to anything other than Kanto and Alola.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:44:52 No.58585210 Report

Quoted By: >>58585216 >>58585310

>>58583348
If the leaks are true (They probably are), this is also the only Mega Galar will have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:46:03 No.58585216 Report

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>>58585210
Hatterene and Grimmsnarl would be nice but this is a good stopping point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:50:56 No.58585245 Report

Quoted By: >>58585317

>>58585105
I not only didn't say that, but also outlined in the original comment what makes Dragon Darts special. You enjoy talking to your fantasy version of me though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 20:57:37 No.58585267 Report

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>>58583348
gen 8 is rancid shit and should ideally be deleted from existence, like all pokemon games starting from gen 6 really...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 21:07:18 No.58585310 Report

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>>58585210
And that's a good thing, Galar deserves nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 21:08:50 No.58585317 Report

Quoted By: >>58585362

>>58585245
Anon nothing you said makes Dragon Darts special. Because it has nothing special. Again, you may as well say Mewoscarada already got a gimmick because it has a move that always hits and deals a critic.
You lost, just like your shitty region

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 21:13:34 No.58585344 Report

Quoted By: >>58586252 >>58586281

>legends galar is going to abandon the combat system of ZA instead of further refining it
>It's going to be a pikmin style rtslite autobattler
Galar literally ruins everything it touches

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 21:18:51 No.58585362 Report

Quoted By: >>58585401

>>58585317
Can you list all the other moves with smart targeting that you can freely spam since it dodges type immunity and protect by hitting the other pokemon for full damage instead?

Which, regardless, is still more than Hydreigon has gotten, because Hydreigon hasn't gotten anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 21:26:49 No.58585401 Report

Quoted By: >>58585438

>>58585362
>no no you don't understand this move does something other moves don't, that's the same as getting an evolution beyond evolution, an alt dimension ancient/futuristic version, a zenith aura move from the ultra beyond, a...
I'm sorry for your loss and your redditspacing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 21:38:12 No.58585438 Report

Quoted By: >>58585463

>>58585401
I didn't say it's the same, I said it's better than getting an ugly ass iron mockery paradox mon that is of no benefit to the actual pokemon. What was that about reading comprehension?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 21:46:04 No.58585463 Report

Quoted By: >>58586231

>>58585438
>no I didn't...! Hydreigon just sucks okay?!
Again, sorry for your loss. Maybe your bro will get something in... 2028? Or maybe in the 2029 DLC lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2025 22:05:06 No.58585523 Report

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One of the gayest argument I’ve seen on this board kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Nov 2025 00:32:27 No.58586231 Report

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>>58585463
I'm not emotionally invested in Hydreigon, I've never used it in a playthrough, I just disagree with the premise of the OP. It's not that complicated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Nov 2025 00:38:30 No.58586252 Report

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>>58585344
ZA's combat system is ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Nov 2025 00:44:46 No.58586281 Report

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>>58585344
Z-A abandoned PLA's battle system, the only thing that's ever going to connect Legends games are avoiding Pokémon attacks and fighting big Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Nov 2025 01:41:04 No.58586553 Report

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Dragapult is at least salvageable. Kommo-o is upstaged by Drampa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Nov 2025 07:19:36 No.58587862 Report

Quoted By: >>58587866

>>58585197
Seed? Was that in the Tera leak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Nov 2025 07:22:11 No.58587866 Report

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>>58587862
Yeah? Have you been living under a rock? All Japan based Pokémon game, from the northenmost (Sinnoh) to southernmost (Hoenn), with all in between (Kanto, Johto, Kitakami and areas from Japan without a region)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Nov 2025 08:17:33 No.58588029 Report

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>>58583348
wasted opportunity to not give goodra a mega
as it is now it's going to be the only pseudo in ZA (including fucking baxcalibur) to not have a mega, when it's already notoriously the weakest pseudo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Nov 2025 08:19:20 No.58588034 Report

Quoted By: >>58588080

>>58583348
Why is that one Garchomp inverse color? Am I missing something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Nov 2025 08:22:10 No.58588038 Report

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>>58585034
lol why not, they for some reason retconned in hisui sneasel when regular sneasel is right there. they could have came up with anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Nov 2025 08:34:26 No.58588080 Report

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>>58588034
Genuinely, yes. Have you been under are rock too?

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