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Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 20:36:29 No.58736135 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>58736152 >>58736209 >>58736259 >>58736305 >>58736679 >>58736694 >>58737028

>boss of an organization from Kanto
>took care of Corbeau when he was a kid

It'd be cool if it was Giovanni, but Giovanni doesn't strike me as the type who'd be knowledgeable about Johto and Hoenn's legends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 20:41:03 No.58736152 Report

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>>58736135
They don't just add lines like that in reference to unseen characters. There's no reason to specifically mention a crime boss without some supporting text. They could've just said it was Lysandre if they wanted to tie it up with a bow. It's clearly in reference to the Kanto crime boss we've met, the same Kanto crime boss who funded research for cloning a legendary Pokemon.

Literacy is fucking dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 20:43:14 No.58736159 Report

Quoted By: >>58736205 >>58736208

...i thought lysandre was the one that helped corbeau out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 20:52:15 No.58736205 Report

Quoted By: >>58736233

>>58736159
Gio took care of him as a tyke. Lysandre took him in as an adolescent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 20:53:08 No.58736208 Report

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>>58736159
This. It makes shit sense that both Giovanni and Lysandre helped him, who the fuck wrote this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 20:53:11 No.58736209 Report

Quoted By: >>58736237 >>58737062

>>58736135
They're referencing a new character from the upcoming Switch 2 exclusive Red and Blue remakes being announced on Pokemon Day (screencap this)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 20:54:41 No.58736218 Report

Quoted By: >>58736239 >>58736408

How old is Corbeau supposed to be? Because the timeline is wack here unless Corbeau is supposed to be like thirty or something.
And since when has Giovanni given a shit about the myths and legends of Johto? And Hoenn? Has Giovanni ever mentioned Hoenn once in his entire life?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 20:56:49 No.58736233 Report

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>>58736205
He literally said Lysandre helped him as a child in the base game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 20:57:29 No.58736237 Report

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>>58736209
Don't will that into existence you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 20:59:11 No.58736239 Report

Quoted By: >>58736245

>>58736218
It makes sense if you subscribe to the theory that Giovanni and Team Rocket were involved in the creation of Mewtwo.

In the context of Gen 1, the point of Mewtwo was to create the "world's most powerful" Pokemon, but retroactively, it'd make sense if the scientists behind Mewtwo were aware of other region's myths and legends and were inspired by them to create a Pokemon of similar power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:01:12 No.58736245 Report

Quoted By: >>58736263

>>58736239
>This piece of hamfisted writing makes sense if you subscribe to fanfiction and schizobabble
Not helping the case there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:03:38 No.58736254 Report

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>>58736233
He described trying to make his way in the city and failing, and that's when Lysandre found him. Contrast with being "taken care of" as a "little runt". Different stages of his life. It's consistent with Giovanni being a work-obsessed absent father. Lysandre is much more present and well intentioned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:04:24 No.58736259 Report

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>>58736135
An alternate theory here but not one I necessarily follow, just posting it for posterity. When he says "took care of me when I was a little runt" this could be interpreted in the Yakuza sense of an older criminal showing a younger criminal the ropes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:04:46 No.58736263 Report

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>>58736245
take your meds and read a book. I know what you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:11:08 No.58736291 Report

Quoted By: >>58736311 >>58736409

>Abandons his biological son
>But for some reason raises this random literally who kid because ???
This shit is straight out of a fanfiction self-insert OC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:12:58 No.58736305 Report

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>>58736135
>First he's related to Lysandre
>Now Giovanni
They tried too hard with purple Avery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:14:35 No.58736311 Report

Quoted By: >>58736339

>>58736291
Fanfic is when text references other text and presents inconsistencies or contradictions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:21:48 No.58736339 Report

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>>58736311
You are pretty dense, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:26:52 No.58736362 Report

Quoted By: >>58736367

>>58736339
You're a retard. You're acting like it's more likely for them to draw attention to an unseen, unnamed character whose function just as easily be done by Lysandre. That it's more unlikely for Giovanni to be mentioned in a way that contradicts the scant bit of characterization he's had.

This unnamed character literally does what Lysandre did. There's zero reason to mention a second crime boss daddy if we have no context for who that character is. The line only works because we infer who the crime boss from Kanto is.

Fucking retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:28:09 No.58736367 Report

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>>58736362
Once again, you're being very very dense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:28:55 No.58736368 Report

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This is getting ridiculous, GF was too lazy to think of a Lumiose or Kalosian sociopath to have raised Corbeau so went with uh uh Giovanni helped him hurr.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:29:29 No.58736371 Report

Quoted By: >>58736381

>>58736367
How the fuck do you expect to insult someone with words when you're proudly illiterate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:31:41 No.58736381 Report

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>>58736371
>when you're proudly illiterate?
Ironic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:34:35 No.58736401 Report

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>>58736381
What is the function of the text? Explain for the class. Why does that line exist in the script?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:35:21 No.58736408 Report

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>>58736218
Giovanni is a powerful yet secretive character, anon. You don't have to know everything about him.

It makes sense for a powerful individual to be interested in powerful Pokemon.

Anyways, I don't think Giovanni selected Corbeau individually and took care of him. He probably just made him into a regular Rocket Grunt and Corbeau idolized Giovanni as a young Grunt would. Corbeau was just a notch more intelligent than the average Grunt and took off early for his own success.

It also explains Corbeau's interest in Poison types like Weezing since Koffing was a popular Rocket mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:35:29 No.58736409 Report

Quoted By: >>58736429

>>58736291
Giovanni never abandoned Silver. Silver ran out on him for being weak and losing his criminal empire and motivation to a pair of 11 year olds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:37:11 No.58736413 Report

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>>58736408
It also explains why Rust has Weezing statues, despite it being unobtainable in Kalos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 21:39:48 No.58736429 Report

Quoted By: >>58736901

>>58736409
Giovanni left Silver after Red took down Team Rocket, with him vowing to rebuild Rocket. We see this played out during the HGSS Celebi scenario.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 22:53:35 No.58736676 Report

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>why does Giovanni know about Johto and Hoenn's legends???
My brother in christ have you seen how close to Kanto those two are located? It's like if some random guy from Kiloude City knew about Shalour's Tower of Mastery, why the fuck wouldn't he? They aren't that far away and it's all in the same country

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 22:55:29 No.58736679 Report

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>>58736135
Oh shit! Giovanni operated in Hoenn too???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 22:56:53 No.58736686 Report

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who groomed him
I will fix him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 22:58:34 No.58736694 Report

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>>58736135
That's starwars levels of plot convenience
He just happened to be mentored by 2 of the series villains in different countries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Dec 2025 23:41:30 No.58736901 Report

Quoted By: >>58737006

>>58736429
>Giovanni left Silver
Except it was the other way around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 00:07:19 No.58737006 Report

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>>58736901
I don't know how to tell you this anon but if your 9yo gets angry at you and leaves for three years (without a pokemon even, so the "trainers counts as adults" excuse doesn't work here) you are legally the one who abandoned his child.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 00:14:18 No.58737028 Report

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>>58736135
More to the point, we know Giovanni doesn't care to stick around and take care of kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Dec 2025 00:28:37 No.58737062 Report

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>>58736209
You joke about it, but with the mention of Johto and especially Hoenn, it sounds more like a preview for the antagonist group from the planned MMO Project Seed.

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