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Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 16:41:48 No.58789716 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>58789731 >>58789756 >>58789813 >>58789969 >>58792444

How the fuck is this even fair? In Gen 1 OU it's basically impossible to take down, you're a fuckin loser if you've ever used Starmie even a single time, AIDS for life

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 16:45:37 No.58789731 Report

Quoted By: >>58789784 >>58789883 >>58789974 >>58791175 >>58791220

>>58789716
starmie is probably the first ever pokemon whose popularity was entirely due to how good it was in comp and nothing else. After gen 1 it got nerfed to the ground and was forgotten until the mega fixed it 29 years latter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 16:46:21 No.58789736 Report

Quoted By: >>58789747

the humble exeggutor

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 16:48:24 No.58789747 Report

Quoted By: >>58789762

>>58789736
Explosion has to crit to take Starmie down and since it's faster the 98% of Gen 1 it can just Recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 16:52:51 No.58789756 Report

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>>58789716
>Chansey Thunderbolt vs. Starmie: 144-170 (44.5 - 52.6%) -- 22.6% chance to 2HKO
>Starmie Hydro Pump vs. Chansey: 125-147 (17.7 - 20.9%) -- possible 5HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 16:54:43 No.58789762 Report

Quoted By: >>58789768 >>58791145 >>58791209

>>58789747
Simply spam Mega Drain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 16:57:14 No.58789768 Report

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>>58789762
Anyone that can learn Mega Drain will get Blizzard'd out the fuckin wazoo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 17:03:01 No.58789784 Report

Quoted By: >>58790070

>>58789731
nigga starmie has been one of my favourites since forever and i disn't even start with kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 17:11:49 No.58789813 Report

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>>58789716
I used Starmie for the entire Emerald Frontier and it's been my bro for life

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 17:37:03 No.58789883 Report

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>>58789731
It was consistently one of the best Pokemon in the game all the way until Gen 7, what the fuck are you talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 18:05:56 No.58789969 Report

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>>58789716
Zapdos with Thunder

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 18:08:00 No.58789974 Report

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>>58789731
Starmie was an OU staple until Greninja invalidated it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 18:58:15 No.58790070 Report

Quoted By: >>58790094

>>58789784
Nobody is talking about you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Dec 2025 19:10:12 No.58790094 Report

Quoted By: >>58791202

>>58790070
you said Starmie's popularity was "entirely" based on how good it was in comp, so that Anon disproved what you said

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 01:32:39 No.58791121 Report

Quoted By: >>58791178 >>58791218 >>58791223 >>58792841

I miss when pokémon felt like pokémon bros
>Starmie is no longer OU
>Gengar is no longer OU
>Snorlax is no longer OU
>fucking Skarmory is no longer OU
>Jirachi, Metagross are no longer OU
>Motherfucking Blissey is no longer OU
>motherfucking Garchomp is no longer OU
>holy motherfucking Tyranitar is no longer OU

These pokémon defined the meta for decades. It's true that it's been years since I stopped playing, but holy shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 01:39:38 No.58791145 Report

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>>58789762
>40 power move against Starmie's gargantuan Special

No nigga, you gotta blow it up or have Tauros blast it. Gen I-III meta isn't about hitting the SE button

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 01:51:31 No.58791175 Report

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>>58789731
Starmie was only kicked out of OU after Greninja dropped into the tier. In Gen 6 OU it's currently ranked at the top of C+ tier, only 1 spot below Gengar, putting it above Alakazam, Mega-Swampert, Mega-Latios, Breloom, Celebi, and Jirachi. It probably would've been ranked higher if not for Defog making it kinda redundant.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 01:53:00 No.58791178 Report

Quoted By: >>58791218

>>58791121
Heatran fell out of OU earlier this gen. ScRotom-W is gone too.

It's true what they say: Landorus-T is next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:03:25 No.58791202 Report

Quoted By: >>58792956

>>58790094
I said nothing, anon, this board is not made of one person.
Also, stop being so fucking autistic. At least try to stay on a functional level to not be an embarrassment

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:06:47 No.58791209 Report

Quoted By: >>58791216

>>58789762
>Mega drain
Bitch, please. This is the same generation where Blizzard has 90% accuracy and a 30% freeze chance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:09:59 No.58791216 Report

Quoted By: >>58791242

>>58791209
30% freeze is only on the Japanese version. The International release, which is what Smogon uses, nerfed it to 10%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:10:29 No.58791218 Report

Quoted By: >>58791221 >>58792597 >>58792800

>>58791121
>>58791178
if they had just banned tera and kicked out most of the paradoxies this wouldn't be happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:13:18 No.58791220 Report

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>>58789731
Meta can kickstart a lot of mons in terms of being fan favorites, couple that with Starmie's design and you got an iconic Pokemon
Now they have doubled down with the Mega in both meta and design and it suddenly became a fan favorite again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:14:39 No.58791221 Report

Quoted By: >>58791231

>>58791218
Banning Tera would've saved the Matchup Moth, yes, but the paradox Pokemon helped keep it in check. Booster Iron Valiant was a solid check to it since you'd outspeed no matter what and could Encore it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:15:10 No.58791223 Report

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>>58791121
On the other hand Pokemon like Dragonite saw a comeback and even Articuno saw the light of day

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:19:46 No.58791231 Report

Quoted By: >>58791237

>>58791221
volcarona was fine for 4 gens, it'll be fine in gen 9 even if only one or two new mons can fight it. Plenty of old ones can.
They even banned gliscor. LMAO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:23:15 No.58791237 Report

Quoted By: >>58792697

>>58791231
Tera Gliscor was actually an issue, though, because Gliscor could deal an obnoxious amount of damage if you guessed its set wrong. There was no universal answer to all of its sets and the punishment for guessing wrong was too severe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:26:31 No.58791242 Report

Quoted By: >>58791256

>>58791216
Oh really? Dang guess I just got lucky then, I don’t play Gen 1 much but I recall inflicting freeze more than once with blizzard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 02:33:27 No.58791256 Report

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>>58791242
To be fair, the 30% chance to OHKO on Blizzard was simply too overpowered. The only way to unfreeze in Gen 1 was to get hit by a Fire attack so whatever you froze was out for good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 15:06:49 No.58792444 Report

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>>58789716
Just thunder wave it
Unlike Alakazam, Starmie is pretty much dead weight when it's paralyzed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 16:22:15 No.58792597 Report

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>>58791218
Nah, the Pokemon that dropped were all due to their movepools getting gutted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 17:14:17 No.58792697 Report

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>>58791237
that's why I initially suggested banning tera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 18:05:24 No.58792800 Report

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>>58791218
Tera is fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 18:22:58 No.58792841 Report

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>>58791121
>fanfic garbage
You never cared about Pokemon feeling like Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Dec 2025 19:11:56 No.58792956 Report

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>>58791202
what are you crying about

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