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>>58838149
In Regulation G, it was all about Whimsicott and Tornadus/Thundurus. They were so favored that so long after the fact, I cannot even recall their competition.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 02:07:59 No.58838197 Report

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>>58838170
Because one generation later they added an item that invalidated them

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 02:25:13 No.58838234 Report

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>>58838149
Tornadus / Whimsicott >>> Talonflame > Murkrow > everything else
The tiebreaker between Torn and Whim basically comes down to how prevalent dragons are. In restricted, dragon heavy metas, Whim is better, otherwise Tornadus.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 02:27:05 No.58838239 Report

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>>58838197
they were already bad in gen 4 tho.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 02:31:49 No.58838256 Report

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>>58838149
>Fairy
Whimsicott by a landslide

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 02:48:06 No.58838283 Report

Quoted By: >>58838404

>>58838149
Why is murkrow even on the running?

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 03:52:42 No.58838404 Report

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>>58838283
it was used in lower-powerlevel formats
plus inherent Taunt immunity and Eviolite-access

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 03:57:42 No.58838407 Report

Quoted By: >>58838881

>>58838170
Are Electabuzz and Magmar still relevant in VGC? There was a lot of hype when they came out but it seems to have died down.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 04:30:57 No.58838444 Report

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>>58838170
Because of Eviolite

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 04:33:52 No.58838452 Report

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>>58838149
THIS

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 04:38:20 No.58838457 Report

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>>58838149
Murkrow is uncounterable

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 04:50:44 No.58838478 Report

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How valuable is Murkrow Haze?

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 08:04:45 No.58838881 Report

Quoted By: >>58838987

>>58838407
when they came out... as in... 1996?

wtf.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 08:56:51 No.58838952 Report

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>>58838149
pair of gay faggots

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 09:22:37 No.58838984 Report

Quoted By: >>58839529

>>58838234
Yeah, correct post.
Tornadus in a vacuum is better than Whimsi, but dragon immunity + a strong moonblast makes fairy fantastic in a restricted meta.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 09:23:37 No.58838987 Report

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>>58838881
Magmar was kinda used at the start of SV because follow me with eviolite and flame body made it serviceable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Jan 2026 14:53:20 No.58839529 Report

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>>58838234
>>58838984
these, plus obviously it depends on your team too. if theres a particular move on either of them thats especially good, or if you have like 3 electric weaknesses already so torn looks shit next to whims, those are relevant factors. both are easily good enough to be justifiable on a team-by-team basis, compared to murkrow whos just torn but worse unless youre retarded and cant figure out another dondozo counter

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