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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 15:59:08 No.58848437 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>58848445 >>58849071 >>58849077

>design is so perfect that devs can't come up with a better design for an evolution

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:01:25 No.58848443 Report

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Top of the morning

OP Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:01:50 No.58848445 Report

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>>58848437
pic unrelated btw

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:20:27 No.58848504 Report

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If you had used Wartortle instead of Elecmon, everyone would have agreed.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:22:51 No.58848514 Report

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>>58848504
Wartortle is perfect design but Blastoise isn't a bad evolution, just inferior.
Venusaur has lots of flaws (and even Sugimori hated drawing it) and Elecmon has no proper evolution. Leomon is just a death tool

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:28:20 No.58848536 Report

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:31:01 No.58848544 Report

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>>58848514
>Elecmon has no proper evolution
Leomon is just a stepping stone. Like going from Lopmon to Wizarmon then Antylamon.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:32:10 No.58848548 Report

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>>58848514
>Elecmon has no proper evolution
Aegiomon says hi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:33:23 No.58848549 Report

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>>58848544
Leomon has nothing to do with electricity nor have a similar patterns from Elecmon.
it's a random evolution,

>>58848548
ugly shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:42:10 No.58848575 Report

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>>58848549
>Leomon has nothing to do with electricity nor have a similar patterns from Elecmon.
They are both hairy mammals with sharp features and electricity is somewhat similar to fire. It's not that much of a stretch. And plenty of lines work the same way- pic related.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:44:20 No.58848576 Report

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:57:49 No.58848604 Report

Quoted By: >>58848606 >>58849015 >>58849063

>People still think OG Pokemon were designed from the base form to final form

Ivysaur's slot was used for the polished, final design of the line. It originally looked exactly like Venusaur. You even compare the original RG Ivysaur sprite and it's just a smaller Venusaur. It was Sugimori that intentionally made one into a lumpy, bulbous frog thing and the other into "bigger Ivysaur"

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 16:59:00 No.58848606 Report

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>>58848604
>bigger Ivysaur
Bigger Bulbasaur, goddamn it I need to go back to sleep

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 17:15:18 No.58848653 Report

Quoted By: >>58849010

I like Gazimon feels like it doesn't have a proper evo either

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 17:31:33 No.58848684 Report

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>>58848575
This, it's clear that Elecmon's true evolution is Whamon.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 17:52:39 No.58848750 Report

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 18:05:10 No.58848794 Report

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>58848750
why can't you discuss pokemon like us instead of being an unwanted loser?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:21:04 No.58849010 Report

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>>58848653
Tailmon too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:22:07 No.58849015 Report

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>>58848604
>headcanon

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:24:13 No.58849022 Report

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>>58848443
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:34:14 No.58849063 Report

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>>58848604
The Kanto starters designs history is a bit complex
>Ivysaur was designed first as a standalone Pokémon
>Bulbasaur and Venusaur were added much later, near the last of the dex
>Nishida made the sprites of the three Pokémon. Venusaur had sharp eyes and dark spots, and the prevos had a tail and rounder ears
>Sugimori took Venusaur and changed into what it's now with warts and drunk eyes
>Nishida had to make current Ivysaur and Bulbasaur from that new Venusaur
Sugi tried to sabotage the line because he hated drawing Venusaur and didn't want to have more chances to draw it in the future.

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Nkil Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:35:48 No.58849071 Report

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>>58848437
This is why I like when a design is a hard pivot from what was before rather than a simple iteration of a previous creature.

Like Surskit turning into Masquerain, or Pinsir turning into Pinchor in Pokemon Vega, I've always loved that SnowAgumon's most consistent evolution is... Frigimon. Like that's awesome, that's funny.

I really wonder what the hell Paotsu here's deal was as a Spinda evolution. The beta builds have him evolving from Spinda at level 17, it's gotta be a placeholder... unless Spinda really was meant to evolve that soon after you got him.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:37:18 No.58849077 Report

Quoted By: >>58849249

>>58848437
>design is so perfect that devs can't come up with a better design for an evolution
anon…

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:37:41 No.58849078 Report

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>>58849063
>he hated drawing Venusaur and didn't want to have more chances to draw it in the future.
understandable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 20:18:22 No.58849249 Report

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>>58849077
He looks better in the anime and official art than in Cyber Sluts and Stranger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 20:47:17 No.58849354 Report

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>>58849249
Coo looks better than the generics.

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