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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 18:34:35 No.58942982 View View Reply Original Report

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Talk about competitive Pokemon.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 18:36:08 No.58942992 Report

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I'm using a basic bitch bolt balance team and it's doing better than any fun, original teams. Why even try to be creative?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 19:41:15 No.58943216 Report

Quoted By: >>58943912

Jesus fucking christ, can Champions come already? SV is stale as fuck, I'm tired of this fucking shit, we're in year 4.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 21:37:53 No.58943617 Report

Quoted By: >>58944254

Please either nerf or completely omit Incineroar in Gen 10. I'm so tired of this piece of shit infesting the game.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 22:30:20 No.58943773 Report

Quoted By: >>58946049 >>58946132

>minimize pass drifblim + dondozo
>3/9 games
cool gonna just end my life now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 23:15:47 No.58943912 Report

Quoted By: >>58943941 >>58943993

>>58943216
>leaks for literally every single goddamn game to an absurd degree including Gen 10 and Pokopia
>absolutely fucking nothing for Champions

Seriously how did we get flat out nothing for it is what actually kills me
Like actually what the fuck how is this the one game that got absolutely 0 leaks

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 23:27:10 No.58943941 Report

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>>58943912
Because most people would rather glaze leakers for a game they’re likely gonna play once, then spew hate over and never talk about again.

At least we’ll have a genuine surprise for Champions. With FRLG announced and gen 10 leaked we’ll have something to look forward to.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 23:33:54 No.58943968 Report

Quoted By: >>58943992 >>58944006 >>58944009

So i got a question, ive never really dabbled into competitive (aside from random battles on showdown) but a friend of mine has. He said that I am able to use any mon that I want, but he backtracked a couple days ago and told me that theres like 1 or 2 mons per team that u can have as a 'surprise pick'.

The reason I havent dived deep is because I'm stubborn and want to use the pokes that i wanna use and not be a meta slave. Any anon's that can convince me of otherwise perchance?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 23:41:16 No.58943992 Report

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>>58943968
The best advice I can give is try out the meta first with the standard shit, get a feel for it for a while, learn matchups, THEN play with off-meta shit. I don’t get this thing where people want to jump in right away with no understanding and try to win with weak shit and lose. Get good first THEN play with your faves, otherwise you’d have to play with someone knowledgeable to guide you to win with your favorites. Which will be mostly them playing, not you. You can probably throw in one off-guy to start but educate yourself first before you commit to that.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 23:41:21 No.58943993 Report

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>>58943912
Because Game Freak isn't the one working on Champions. ILCA, a, comparatively, more competent company, is.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 23:44:07 No.58944006 Report

Quoted By: >>58944031

>>58943968
Depends on whether you want to win tournaments or play the ladder for fun. If you really want to reach the top then you'll have to make some harsh calls. That doesn't necessarily mean copying the current meta, but it does mean understanding it and choosing mons that you can feel confident are able to take on the strongest teams. Sometimes that can involve bizarre picks like how Pachirisu won Worlds, but those are usually the exception.
If you want to just have fun, then do whatever. You won't get very far with all early route normal types or whatever, but if you know how to build a team then you can absolutely wreck the ladder.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 23:45:54 No.58944009 Report

Quoted By: >>58944031 >>58944287

>>58943968
Teambuilding is orders of magnitude harder than actually battling. You can give someone a premade good team and withing a dozens games they'll get a feel for how to use it even if their only experience with Pokemon is the single player campaign. After about a hundred games they'll have a good grasp of the fundamentals of competitive in general and at that point it's just a matter of learning EVERYTHING about EVERY Pokemon, item, ability, move, stats, and all their fiddly interactions. A year later, once they've played thousands of games only then does teambuilding even start to feel approachable.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 23:45:58 No.58944010 Report

Quoted By: >>58944240 >>58944283

>>58943993
There were plenty of games in the leak that Game Freak weren't working on but we know of because they were collaborating. Champions is likely very heavily involved with the staff who usually manage competitive.

>ILCA
>comparatively, more competent company
Nigga did you see BDSP? Hell even Champions is just looking like a less aesthetic SWSH.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 23:46:15 No.58944011 Report

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>>58943992
Appreciate the advice anon. Just one more question. Lets say I start playing the metagame to get a feel of what mons and teams I play against. AT BEST, how free would I be to build my team, because personally I'm highly doubting that I can build my own 6 mon team that is NOT meta and still compete. I'm somewhat highly excited about pokemon champions and really wanna play alot of it so I'm just scared im not gonna enjot it because im forced to play tapu's or swords of justice or w/e just because they are the min/max best mons to use to get far or high rank.

Then again, I might be extremely biased and have no clue whether my viewpoint is based on something credible, just want some idea before I take the leap of faith uknow.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Feb 2026 23:51:10 No.58944031 Report

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>>58944006
Yeah I mean I watch alot of poketubers that do showdown but I've just never felt like I'm experienced enough to even start. Like idk if that makes sense but when I hear them say stuff like 'yeah he took 60% so he must be specs' or w/e I just get overwhelmed with the idea of what along investment its gonna be to be remotely good at the game. I am for sure willing to put the time in just with an idea of 'okay i can still have fun' instead of bowing to the meta. Appreciate the insight tho Anon <3

>>58944009
Yeah, its something I've noticed along the years of watching battles. Its just that I think I enjoy the Idea of being off meta or larping as a trainer that uses his own fave mons (cringe I know). Teambuilding seems like the hardest skill to get right if u wanna play competitively but thats coming from an outsider so idk.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 00:38:49 No.58944240 Report

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>>58944010
>Nigga did you see BDSP
you mean the game they had to rush in six months because of GF's inability to pass information diligently?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 00:39:19 No.58944242 Report

Quoted By: >>58944257 >>58944500

>SS DLC is $45 Australian dollarydoos
Realistically how necessary are the Urshifus / Calyrexs going to be for Champions? Borrowed a friend’s Switch primarily for Legends Arceus and New Snap as I’d heard they were fun and let me turn my ribbon-covered Ursaring from Gale of Darkness into an Ursaluna in LA but decided to play a bit of SS to get a Rillaboom with Grassy Surge. They also don’t have SV so I cannot turn my GoD Primeape into Annihilape.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 00:41:10 No.58944254 Report

Quoted By: >>58944822

>>58943617
I’m sick of seeing so many non-Bug types have access to U-Turn while Volt Switch is still semi-limited to (mostly) Electric Pokemon. No idea why Cobalion and Iron Crown have access to it though.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 00:41:41 No.58944257 Report

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>>58944242
almost guaranteed to be dexited initially

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 00:47:59 No.58944283 Report

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>>58944010
>Hell even Champions is just looking like a less aesthetic SWSH.
its literally a mobile game

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 00:48:29 No.58944287 Report

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>>58944009
Second this. Did VGC in 2013 B2W2 through to early 2017 with SM (skipped 2016 because I learnt I didn’t like Restricted formats), but I only started feeing confident making my own teams in 2015 once I felt like I learnt everything there was to learn l. Every attempt before that fell flat but the first time I made my own team and it did really well at a tourney was immensely satisfying

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 01:56:38 No.58944500 Report

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>>58944242
The whole point of Champions is having access to permanent rentals you can freely modify. Any mon legal in a format will be available as an unlockable in Champions itself. Games gotta be playable for the mobile-only kiddies.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 04:04:34 No.58944822 Report

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>>58944254
U-Turn should get the Freeze Dry treatment. It should be a rare move for only bugs.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 10:59:40 No.58945470 Report

Quoted By: >>58946226

Gonna be funny when champions is so shit that VGC2028 is on gen 10.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 16:08:35 No.58946049 Report

Quoted By: >>58946129

>>58943773
Rough me and my bud came against it we've got this team mapped out fuck knows if we will beat it if we come across it again. What degenerate created it? They seem to have come out for the GC I didn't play any on the ladder running up to it.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 16:39:48 No.58946129 Report

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>>58946049
I remember That'sAplusONE running it at NAIC in 2025, he assuredly did not create the team, but I have absolutely seen it before.
He went 5-3.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 16:40:50 No.58946132 Report

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>>58943773
Carry haze.
You will always appreciate having that.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Feb 2026 17:08:14 No.58946226 Report

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>>58945470
It would be hard to fuck up a game that is just a 3d version of Shodown, but they are fully capable of sabotaging it regardless.

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