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Anonymous Thu 12 Mar 2026 12:47:50 No.59046644 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>59046653 >>59046686 >>59046783 >>59046842 >>59046858 >>59047077

>Be Hoenn
>Be the region known for too much fucking water
>Have a Fire type Gym Leader
>Literally cannot use any of the fun or interesting Water types until after you beat Norman

Why do people think Hoenn has good design, again? Is it because they all picked Swampert as toddlers?

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Anonymous Thu 12 Mar 2026 12:51:36 No.59046653 Report

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>>59046644
Facing the Fire leader before you're able to destroy her with Surf sounds like good design to me.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Mar 2026 12:56:15 No.59046664 Report

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>>59046653
But you don't even need Surf to do so, you get a fucking Marshtomp that facerolls her team. Then if you don't want to use that you still get boring slop like Geodude or Numel which get Magnetude and can handle her team anyway. All the fun Pokemon are just locked AFTER her

The only way you'll actually have trouble with Flannery is if you picked the wrong option Treecko

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Anonymous Thu 12 Mar 2026 13:01:44 No.59046686 Report

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>>59046644
I like the way this artist draws long legs but the boobs going a little silly in this one

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Anonymous Thu 12 Mar 2026 13:42:26 No.59046783 Report

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>>59046644
>>59046664
Needing to rely on rock and ground instead of water is intentional, Torkoal has much higher defense than special defense so it can tank super effective hits of those types much better. The only water types available before Flannery are Marshtomp, Lombre, Pelipper, Azumarill, Tentacool, and Gyarados.
Lombre basically doesn’t count since it’s Neutral to fire and gets no water moves, Gyarados tanks fire attacks super well but also gets no water moves, Marshtomp and Pelipper are stuck with water gun, while Tentacruel and Azumarill are stuck with base 50 special attack. The game quite cleverly limits the power of water before Flannery to force the player into needing a defensive strategy. Flannery herself is clearly designed to reward players who can manage a prolonged battle rather than those who rely on brute force to win.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Mar 2026 13:50:59 No.59046797 Report

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>starting any greentext with >be
beggin ya to go back

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Anonymous Thu 12 Mar 2026 14:10:14 No.59046842 Report

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>>59046644
>Game is designed in such a way where a gym leader can potentially be extremely challenging because your options are limited
That IS good design

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Anonymous Thu 12 Mar 2026 14:15:36 No.59046858 Report

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>>59046644
“Good design” being equated with no friction has been a disastrous development for talking vidya. She’s the 4th gym, you should have enough tools and knowledge to win regardless of what’s in your team.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Mar 2026 15:21:23 No.59047077 Report

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>>59046644
Hoenn gives you like ten water-types or some shit before you get to her. You’re saying that’s not enough in a children’s video game?

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