>>95785779I think what has their panties in a twist is the fact that both Hololive/HoloEN and Nimi are BOTH doing really well still (in fact way better than most were expecting). HoloEN not only suffered NO impact to numbers whatsoever but the current Minecraft arc is causing certain members to pop off hard meanwhile Nimi basically just became a top indie by default as her average mogs every non-HoloEN Vtuber.