>>80153873Yes. Not even many meat idols are real idols anymore. The pro-CGDCT members of Hololive set the new meta and that's why Hololive's brand has erupted over everything else in recent years. It's why AKB48 are leeching Hololive, it's why Shylily acknowledges Hololive as advancing the medium, and it's why Gura is the face of not just the brand but vtubing as a whole.