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I think I figured it out, I don't actually want to anti Lumi. I've got no problems with her, I just find a lot of her fans here and especially her groomcord to be obnoxious. It's like she managed to get a chat the complete opposite of herself. She admits her own ignorance, her fans act like pseud redditors. She loves banter but gumis here will cry and get pissy if she's teased or shit on other girls to deflect, usually Pippa. She never leads people on or tries to pretend to be anyone's girlfriend but the entire thread floods with goslingposts as soon as she cons sings. She's aloof and confident, her fans come across as desperate and venomous to each other and everyone else. How she got a chat so different from herself I'll never understand.