>>8150274HoloEN never really "grew" though. Their numbers never really matched what they were getting on debuts, despite their sub count going up their viewer count just drops a bit at a time every month.
NijiEN have yet to match their debut numbers either but their numbers improve over time at least. They have much fewer limitations from management and use this to their advantage to target fans that HoloEN alienated by being overly restrictive like Finana being a degenerate pervert, or Selen being free to talk candidly about how garbage the Apex community and developers are, or interacting and collabing with VShojo to bring in new viewers from Twitch, as much as I dislike those whores myself. Comparing the two is valid and criticizing vtubers on what they can do better or learn from the competition is better feedback than just blindly supporting anything they do as they slowly decline.
You can already see this in action as HoloEN were inspired by NijiEN's unity and constant guerilla collabs into having guerilla collabs of their own in recent weeks. Hell their management even let Mori collab with more indie vtubers like MilkyQueen now when previously she was lamenting how paralyzed she felt over management denying all her collab requests. Clearly it's working and we should do more to point out the superior management style of NijiEN and superior company accountability regarding supporting talents. Nobody in Nijisanji has ever had to spend 8 months hiding their model because an incompetent rigger messed up their chest size. Their in-house riggers would have something like that sorted out within days if the talent was unhappy with their model.
