>>86148810I don't care if they are trying, they are reclining just 6 months after debut. HMZ is a non-issue, they were always a glorified handyman gen to get stuff done BTS for cheap/free and guaranteed to not pull a gen3. Their only real vtuber fucked up and had to leave. They are a lost cause and I never counted on them, I had high hopes for Ephemira however.