>>33623345>Suisei is prime example of good Holo without male restrictionThis is one of the dumbest strawman that came out of this whole kerfuffle.
>everyone complaining is doing so because they don't want their girls to collab with males>Suisei collab with males, hence she's a counterexampleThere are a lot of people complaining about the whole StarsEN situation, with some being these extreme examples, others complaining for other reasons.
But the use of Suisei doesn't apply at all to this situation in ANY case.
With the exception of one shill stream, she doesn't even have a single male live stream collab or even one outside the box live stream collab in her channel in the past year of streaming.
Suisei is the poster girl of "power of the box" type of Hololive streamer: she uses the full power of the box to advance her musical career and, conversely, uses the full weight of her musical career to further the interests of the box.
>pic relatedThose are all of her streams in the past year. Why are people using Suisei as a model of "mixed gender collabs" if she doesn't have a single one other than the shill stream?
